Posted on 03/10/2018 12:47:25 PM PST by Simon Green
In the post-Parkland hysteria, President Trump directed the Department of Justice to perform some regulatory legerdemain where bump fire stocks are concerned. The ATF had long ago passed on the stocks, deeming them perfectly legal accessories for semi-automatic rifles. Now, in a Saturday morning move apparently meant to fly under the radar . . .
The U.S. Department of Justice formally submitted a regulation on Saturday to ban “bump stocks,” a modification to high-capacity rifles that lets them fire like an automatic weapon.
President Donald Trump signed a memorandum in February directing the department to make the regulatory change, which must now be approved by the Office of Management and Budget before it is published and subject to a commentary period.
Nothing to worry about though…that will never get through Congress! Au contraire, mon frere.
The move does not require congressional approval, allowing the administration to side-step what could have been insurmountable pressure from pro-gun groups such as the National Rifle Association that have worked to erode changes in firearm laws in the wake of mass shootings in Florida and Nevada.
It’s no biggie, though. Really, now many people own, or even want a bump fire stock? This won’t affect me!
Think again. If the DOJ can use regulatory fiat to bring their ban hammer down on bump fire stocks, magically deeming them machine guns, what’s to stop this or, more likely, some future administration from deciding that “high-capacity” 30-round magazines are also unacceptable modifications that facilitate “unnecessary” rates of fire? Or lighter, drop-in triggers? Anything that could plausibly be argued to increase a gun’s “standard” rate of fire.
The NRA was on board with regulating bump fire stocks in theory, but hadn’t signed on to this particular move. This sets a terrible regulatory precedent that will almost surely be expanded and abused again down the road. Will the NRA sue? Will SAF or the GOA?
We haven’t been able to get our mitts on the new DOJ regulatory language yet, but will publish it when it’s available. Stay tuned.
“There is a finger manipulation for every shot”
And there is subtle push with the non-trigger hand. So what! If a woman who never fired an AR15 can step up and fire off 2 clips in 15 seconds, that’s pretty automatic in my book.
OK, I get it. You have no respect for the law or separation of powers under the Constitution. In other words you’re either a Demoncrat troll or a hard core RINO.
Trump may very well lose his base before 2020.
“You don’t know the difference between a clip and a magazine so...”
So just like millions of other gun owners who interchange the two terms ??
Now multiply that across all the gun owners and you see what you are up against.
Sounds like, "How could Nixon have won? Nobody I know voted for him."
You really don’t know how life works.
Scott only needed to announce he just vetoed this bill. Now was that hard? What the hell would anyone have done about that? I can tell you now his political career is over so he's got that going for him.
I have seen many guys that can bump fire from the shoulder with an AR and nothing but their finger and do it even better than slide fire users. Bump fire stocks are only a crutch for people who don't want to take the time to learn how to bump using just their finger. A simple high end trigger for an AR or and AK makes bump fire very easy.
So do we go all in for a semi auto ban next because that's all that's really required to bump fire? Oh, I forgot. Bump firing has been around for many years before anyone thought of making a stock for it.
How about if we give up our bump stocks and the feds and police give up their machine guns?
Don't you agree a machine gun is only good for spraying a bunch of bullets and killing as many people as possible? Where is that subject in the law enforcement training manuals? When was the last time we needed a cop to spray bullets and kill as many people as possible? If not ever then why do cops and federal agents have machine guns? I can play this game all day.
“In other words you’re either a Demoncrat troll or a hard core RINO.”
Wrong on both counts! But keep trying:)
Like an MSM ignoramus who doesn’t know diddly squat about firearms.
If they were purchased using a credit card or by mail order, the Feds might start making visits.
Wow 3 people? I guess that settles it! I had no idea there were that many.
“I can tell you now his political career is over so he’s got that going for him.”
Scott will put Nelson out to pasture and be the next Senator from Florida. And I still don’t know who or why you are arguing about law enforcement!
“Wow 3 people? I guess that settles it! I had no idea there were that many.”
I think you need to expand your reach a bit. I think you’re stuck in your own world; there’s a lot of NRA members who feel the same way.
Sadly I think this is going to happen.
The gun control frenzy is sweeping the nation and the President initiated it. It's a sad day.
You consider the EPA, FEMA and The Department of Education law enforcement? Why do they have machine guns?
Lets try again.
Why should the American People be banned from possessing machine guns?
Ever fired an “assault weapon” with a bump stock. It fires so fast that the ongoing instantaneous multiple rcoil actions by the weapon makes it almost unusable.
Here’s a youtube video showing how to use your finger to simulate a bump stock:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7RdAhTxyP64
That can also be done using a belt loop and your hand in your pocket:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yfjKIT_KXSQ (WARNING: F word at the end.)
Are they going to take my belt? Me trousers will fall down.
So if you own a bump stock but no firearm you still own a machine gun?
Things like that is why I have joined GOA instead of the NRA. In the meantime DOJ can't find any precious time to nail Hillary Clinton. But they'll work Saturdays at Union Overtime rate pay for doing crap like this.
“You consider the EPA, FEMA and The Department of Education law enforcement? Why do they have machine guns?”
I said the same thing I think you are saying when the Boston Marathon bombers did there thing. It seemed like every government worker in Massachusetts was geared for war. There were literally thousands of them.
GOA and NAGR fill that void now
Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.