Now that we've heard from the Fudd contingent....
Posted on 03/10/2018 12:47:25 PM PST by Simon Green
In the post-Parkland hysteria, President Trump directed the Department of Justice to perform some regulatory legerdemain where bump fire stocks are concerned. The ATF had long ago passed on the stocks, deeming them perfectly legal accessories for semi-automatic rifles. Now, in a Saturday morning move apparently meant to fly under the radar . . .
The U.S. Department of Justice formally submitted a regulation on Saturday to ban “bump stocks,” a modification to high-capacity rifles that lets them fire like an automatic weapon.
President Donald Trump signed a memorandum in February directing the department to make the regulatory change, which must now be approved by the Office of Management and Budget before it is published and subject to a commentary period.
Nothing to worry about though…that will never get through Congress! Au contraire, mon frere.
The move does not require congressional approval, allowing the administration to side-step what could have been insurmountable pressure from pro-gun groups such as the National Rifle Association that have worked to erode changes in firearm laws in the wake of mass shootings in Florida and Nevada.
It’s no biggie, though. Really, now many people own, or even want a bump fire stock? This won’t affect me!
Think again. If the DOJ can use regulatory fiat to bring their ban hammer down on bump fire stocks, magically deeming them machine guns, what’s to stop this or, more likely, some future administration from deciding that “high-capacity” 30-round magazines are also unacceptable modifications that facilitate “unnecessary” rates of fire? Or lighter, drop-in triggers? Anything that could plausibly be argued to increase a gun’s “standard” rate of fire.
The NRA was on board with regulating bump fire stocks in theory, but hadn’t signed on to this particular move. This sets a terrible regulatory precedent that will almost surely be expanded and abused again down the road. Will the NRA sue? Will SAF or the GOA?
We haven’t been able to get our mitts on the new DOJ regulatory language yet, but will publish it when it’s available. Stay tuned.
Incorrect. The trigger is pulled once for each shot, making it a semiautomatic weapon.
Are you also under the mistaken impression that a Gatling Gun is a machine gun?
Try to explain to the American people that an AR15 firing at 8 rounds per second isn’t an automatic weapon. They won’t give a damn about your technicalities. Now you know what Trump and Scott were up against.
Sessions doesn’t do what Trump wants; he does what Trump directs. Like banning bump stocks.
No problem because my logic is solid as is anyone who truly understands the intent of the 2nd amendment. Liberals on the other hand don't have the first clue, which is why you don't seem to have an answer as to why dozens of federal agencies and local police departments all possess machine guns whereas the American People who's rights are spelled out in the Constitution do not have them.
Crickets
Would that include hooking your thumb in your belt loop producing the same firing effect? Which would you tax and license the thumb or the belt loop?
The Left is drooling for magazine restrictions. Little known fact, Cruz used ten round mags as they fit in his bag better.
It's not an automatic firearm or machine gun. Rate of fire is not a defining characteristic of Class-III firearms.
Definently the thumb, it will be around longer to tax :-)
Incorrect.
Are you really this obtuse? Technicalities do in fact matter.There is a precise definition of a machine gun in the U. S. Code. Bump fire stocks do not turn a semi auto firearm into a machine gun, no matter what their rate of fire is. Or are you OK with a regulatory agency arbitrarily making law, as DOJ is in this case? This is a disastrous precedent, that extends far beyond bump fire stocks.
“No problem because my logic is solid as is anyone who truly understands the intent of the 2nd amendment”
You keep telling yourself that...me, I’m ok with President Trump and Gov Scott decision. And the 3 people I know and trust that are gun owners feel the same way. Now multiply that across all the gun owners and you see what you are up against.
I am not on drugs, and it isn’t an automatic or full auto. There is a finger manipulation for every shot, so it is just a rapid semi auto. Watch some You tube videos on people shooting three gun and IDPA matches, they are almost as fast with pistols.
A stock AR-15 can be fired at 5 to 6 shots per second. Do you want to classify all semiautos as machine guns?
Plus there are two of them although most of my jeans have about five belt loops. But only two of those would be practical for bump firing.
“This is a disastrous precedent, that extends far beyond bump fire stocks.”
This day was set in stone the day they made the bump stock. The manufacturers knew it, and everyone that bought one for the AR15 knew it was coming. You can argue all you want about technicalities, but the American people will never agree with you.
“A stock AR-15 can be fired at 5 to 6 shots per second.”
You telling me I can pick up an AR15 for the first time and fire off 6 rps...I don’t think so.
Now that we've heard from the Fudd contingent....
I guess with a couple of pneumatic cylinders J_B welded to my Marlin 30-30 leaver action hunting rifle, I could get the same performance. NOT...
You don't know the difference between a clip and a magazine so...
Please correct your school reference to “Parkland”.
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