Posted on 03/08/2018 7:26:42 AM PST by DFG
A US guided missile destroyer’s deadly collision with an oil tanker near Singapore in 2017 was caused by “a sudden turn” made by the warship that put it in the path of the commercial vessel, said a report by the Singapore government Thursday.
The collision on Aug. 21, which killed 10 sailors and was one of a handful of incidents in the Asia Pacific region involving US Navy warships, raised questions about Navy training and led to the removal of a number of officers.
“The collision between the USS John S McCain (JSM) and Alnic MC (AM) as they were transiting through the Singapore Strait happened because of a sudden turn to Port by JSM, which caused it to head into the path of AM,” the report said.
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No, a right turn. That's what took everyone by surprise.
> Port wine is red <
cans green
a great way to remember.
and I’ll drink ‘ruby’ Port
Every morning the Admiral came to his office and acknowledged the presence of his standing staff.
Then, first thing, he would open the locked desk drawer and remove a ratty looking piece of paper. He would observe the paper, put it in the drawer and then lock it back.
One day the Admiral was distracted during the process and didn’t lock the drawer as he left. His underling rushed into the office and opened the drawer to see the words of wisdom the Admiral so much prized.
The paper had a hand printed note: “Port is left, Starboard is right”
Never saw a helmsman even attempt to ‘show up an OOD’. Most helmsmen came from Deck Dept, and if they had attempted something so moronic, I would have asked our 6’5” 240lb BM1 to have a nice ‘counseling’ session with them.
No, he didn’t try to sink the Forrestal either. His plane was parked next to the one that was first hit by the misfired rocket.
The OOD/Helmsman (usually a BM in open water/always QM entering/exiting port back in my day) at the time are the two places where an error can happen.
Hard for me to fathom that the OOD didn't immediately notice the error and order a correction.
Ummm, what was the 'series of missteps'? That's what people want to know...
>>the McCain failed to yield to the (large, looming) tanker.<<
I don’t think so. The McCain was sailing alongside, had a steering problem develop, and then handled the problem poorly, leading to the sharper turn and the collision. Had the initial problem been handled properly, the collision could have been avoided. It wasn’t a failure to yield; it was a failure to correct the initial steering problem properly.
At least that’s how I recall the explanation a few months back.
LOL! Good one!
USS McCain ping...
Note “port/starboard” confusion. Media continues to be a cloisterflock...
>>Ummm, what was the ‘series of missteps’? That’s what people want to know...<<
Try googling. I recall reading a decent explanation of the series of missteps several month ago. The Navy released details.
As I recall, primary steering was suddenly mucked up and was transferred to a different station that could have corrected the situation, but the transfer order wasn’t understood properly and mistakes multiplied from there. (all of the above is in non-Navy talk, including “mucked up,” by the way.)
Oh, you mean larboard!
John McCain’s ‘sudden turn’ led to making him look like the fool he is ?
Spoiled product of real war heroes living off their work ?
If you go left long enough...you are right.
Not everyone knows. Granted, there were three well known McCains who served in the US Navy, so I can understand someone getting that mixed up.
Hey, if they named a ship after “Gabby” Giffords or Harvey Milk (USNS) they could easily have named a ship after John S. McCain III.
That said, the level of ignorance with respect to history (both military and otherwise) and military processes and procedures is appalling on some of these threads.
If the Freepers were openly joking, it would be enough to obtain a chuckle, but otherwise, it is tiresome.
Agreed. Who gave the order for the abrupt turn and under what circumstances? Was it solely the result of a hissy-fit by the helmsman-person?
This was so outrageous that my early speculation centered on an uncontrollable mechanical problem that an 'all stop' could not have mitigated; or even successful interference of the navigation by external forces whether or not hostile.
If the latter, the USN's public position would be justified.
Thank you for the ping, FRiend...hope all is well.
Yeah. Reuters and NY Post. It is embarrassing, or it would be for them, if they had any integrity, which they don’t.
Can’t get ranks or ratings correctly. Can’t get ship or unit designations right. Call a destroyer a battleship. Call a B-52 a fighter.
But they want the levers of military power because THEY are the smartest people in the room.
crazy ivan?
...seems fitting, after all...
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