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Officials Admit Japan's 'Helicopter Destroyers' Were Also Designed For Jets
The Drive ^ | FEBRUARY 27, 2018 | TYLER ROGOWAY

Posted on 02/28/2018 7:57:28 AM PST by sukhoi-30mki

Japanese Ministry of Defense executives have outright admitted that despite the Japanese government's past denials that the Izumo class "helicopter destroyers" were not designed to accommodate fixed-wing short takeoff and vertical landing (STOVL) tactical jets, they actually were designed with exactly that in mind.

The Asahi Shimbun quoted Maritime Self Defense Force sources stating the following:

“It is only reasonable to design (the Izumo) with the prospect of possible changes of the circumstances in the decades ahead... We viewed that whether the Izumo should be actually refitted could be decided by the government.”

When the Izumo first entered service, the vessels' ominous profile and massive proportions led many, including the author, to allege that these vessels were intended to one day carry fixed-wing tactical jets. It also wasn't really clear why the country would need larger vessels than the Hyuga class helicopter destroyers already in production if they weren't going to gain more offensive capabilities. Although they have amphibious capabilities, Japan's helicopter carriers are traditionally more focused on anti-submarine warfare.

Asahi Shimbun's sources went on to say that a consensus was privately reached among the service's leadership that the Izumo class would be designed for conversion into a fixed-wing capable aircraft carrier in the future but the Japanese government would deny this due to the issues surrounding violating Article Nine of the Japanese constitution.

We recently reported that Japan's Self Defense Forces were looking at the idea of refitting its Izumo class carriers, of which there are two, to accommodate the F-35B, as well as larger plans to purchase more F-35s, including between 20 and 40 F-35B models. With this in mind, it seems pretty clear that this was the plan all along, or at least it was envisioned as a major possibility when the ships were being designed and constructed. But this new information also points to the possibility that making the Izumo class ships F-35B capable will be far less complicated and expensive than some may have thought.

China's naval expansion eastward in particular was a major concern among designers when the ship's plans were being formulated in the mid 2000s. One official told Asahi Shimbun:

“The plan to construct the Izumo was settled with its future conversion in mind to prepare for any possible contingency of the unavailability of the ASDF Naha Base."

Naha Base is co-located alongside Naha Airport on Okinawa, and is the only major air base controlled by Japan's Air Self Defense Forces in the area, although the American bases of Kadena and Marine Corps Air Station Futenma are also on the island. Still, the runways at all three bases will be top targets for Chinese ballistic and cruise missiles during a time of war.

The F-35B can operate from short prepared strips, making denying its ability to generate sorties far more challenging for potential foes. The aircraft could also provide high-end fighter operations from forward staging bases on more remote islands in Japan's southern island chain.

Putting the F-35B on a carrier makes it even more survivable and flexible during a conflict with a major peer state foe. It also allows for air power to persist even after land-based aviation capabilities has been effectively taken out of the fight, even if just temporarily. The ships could also setup a presence near the disputed Senkaku Islands and other tense locales. Hard-hitting power projection farther from Japan's own territory is also a major possibility as well with an F-35B capable carrier.

AP

The article goes on to outline that the class's hangar and elevators were built to dimensions that could accommodate the F-35B and the MV-22 Osprey—Japan already has MV-22s on order. Even the class's flight deck can supposedly withstand the heat and pressure generated by the F-35's scorching exhaust. The official also says the carriers' deck would likely be modified with a ski-jump if the F-35B were acquired.

The justification of Japan's military posture, and the weaponry that supports it, all comes down to how one interprets "self defense" as per the Japanese constitution, but really, things have been rapidly changing for Japan when it comes to morphing its military into a far-reaching force with substantial offensive punch.

Lockheed

Seeing as all the other power players in the region are acquiring ever more advanced flattops, Japans move to modify the Izumo class to accommodate the F-35B is likely a foregone eventuality at this point, although exactly when a refit would occur remains unknown. Some reports state that the F-35Bs could be ordered as soon as next year, with them becoming operational by 2024. Presumably at least one modified Izumo class carrier would be ready to accommodate them by that time as well.

Considering that Japan is looking to arm itself with long-range cruise missiles and more capable fighters in the near term, a fixed-wing capable Izumo and her sister ship Kaga won't be far behind, ushering in a new era of power projection for Japan the likes of which the world has not seen since the end of World War II.


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Japan; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: aerospace; aircraftcarrier; f35b; izumo

1 posted on 02/28/2018 7:57:29 AM PST by sukhoi-30mki
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To: sukhoi-30mki

Maybe Japan should repeal Article Nine.


2 posted on 02/28/2018 8:08:15 AM PST by Fred Hayek (The Democratic Party is now the operational arm of the CPUSA)
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To: sukhoi-30mki

Title is misleading. They weren’t designed for Jets. They were designed to allow for a conversion to jets in case it was allowed in the future. I don’t see what is so terrible about considering future options.

Now - if they want to make the title that the JSDF personnel lied or wasn’t totally forthcoming that is just national politics at work.


3 posted on 02/28/2018 8:10:25 AM PST by reed13k
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To: sukhoi-30mki
The last time the Japanese had carriers it didn't end well:
4 posted on 02/28/2018 8:12:38 AM PST by littleharbour ("You take on the intel. community they have six ways from Sunday at getting back at you" C. Schumer)
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To: sukhoi-30mki

But they get GREAT GAS MILEAGE!........................


5 posted on 02/28/2018 8:16:36 AM PST by Red Badger (The people who call Trump a tyrant are the same people who want the president to confiscate weapons.)
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To: reed13k

With VTOL aircraft, it doesn’t make a bit of difference...................


6 posted on 02/28/2018 8:18:01 AM PST by Red Badger (The people who call Trump a tyrant are the same people who want the president to confiscate weapons.)
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To: littleharbour

The Akagi prepping another flight during the second wave attacks at Pearl.

7 posted on 02/28/2018 8:27:48 AM PST by NohSpinZone (First thing we do, let's kill all the lawyers)
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To: Fred Hayek

Abe has been banging his head against that wall since he got in power. its close in japan but he absolutely wont bring it up for a vote unless he knows it can pass.


8 posted on 02/28/2018 9:21:47 AM PST by Raymann
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To: sukhoi-30mki

I have no problem with Japan having a military....

But they better know: next time it will be the whole island, not just 2 cities.

Germany too, for that matter.


9 posted on 02/28/2018 9:30:17 AM PST by clee1 (We use 43 muscles to frown, 17 to smile, and 2 to pull a trigger. I'm lazy and I'm tired of smiling.)
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To: clee1

Japan isn’t thinking about US with these carriers, they are a message to Chinese Emperor Xi. Obama scared Japan into rearming. For 60 yrs. the Japanese knew we had their back and Obama’s dithering in the Pacific and around the world shocked them as well as many of our allies, Australia being one of them as well.

Depending on the Norks behavior Japan will go nuclear sooner or later as a deterrent to the new Greater East Asia Co-Prosperity Sphere being aggressively ran out of Peking.


10 posted on 02/28/2018 10:51:23 AM PST by sarge83
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To: rlmorel

11 posted on 02/28/2018 4:17:13 PM PST by Chode (You have all of the resources you are going to have. Abandon your illusions and plan accordingly.)
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