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To: SoConPubbie

Unfortunately, it WOULD NOT be only our life you would be putting on the line. Any children in the hallway, the nearby rooms, upstairs, downstairs, or even outside could have been hit while he shot at you.

Okay, you try to distract the shooter. That shooter tries to hit you, but three other kids are killed in the cross-fire between you and him.

Is that also a risk you want to take?


88 posted on 02/22/2018 9:59:33 PM PST by DoughtyOne (01/26/18 DJIA 30 stocks $26,616.71 48.794% > open 11/07/16 215.71 from 50% increase 1.2183 yrs..)
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To: DoughtyOne

If a shooter is free, loose, and not confronted there is a higher risk of more death than if you engage. Depends on where the potential victims are in relationship to the shooter. If there are people in the cross fire, then you don’t engage. That’s part of firearms training.


94 posted on 02/22/2018 10:13:00 PM PST by morphing libertarian (Build Kate's Wall)
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To: DoughtyOne

Well said, again! We all can be virtual commandos but being there in that situation is something none of us know how we’d react and how our reaction could affect others.

We shouldn’t be putting the blame on the people involved in the actual chaos. People do/react how they do whether we agree as we sit here not involved. It’s wonderful when there’s a hero, but sometimes there’s no hero.


98 posted on 02/22/2018 10:16:44 PM PST by Twink
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To: DoughtyOne

“Any children in the hallway, the nearby rooms, upstairs, downstairs, or even outside could have been hit while he shot at you.”

Pure cowardice. So your answer is to let him stroll around and murder at his leisure because you think you might make it worse?
And yeah, departments send every cop they can find. 20, 50, or more. But that isn’t so you can build up this huge force before you do anything. They cop ON THE SCENE has to start it off. Sucks when it’s you, but he should have.
And it isn’t nearly as suicidal as you are making out. In the overwhelming number of cases where an active shooter is engaged by a good guy, the mass murder stops as the bad guy seeks cover and tries to shoot back. Usually a suicide follows when the rat is cornered.

This isn’t some band of Spetsnaz. It’s one coward with a rifle who is very busy shooting little girls and boys, he’s distracted with fire alarms, screaming kids and his own tunnel vision. Most likely you can dump him and he’ll never even see it coming.

Sometimes you just got to be a man, even though it sucks.
And for all your sophistry, one question. If it was his own kid on the 3rd floor, think he would have waited outside? Honestly, I feel bad for the guy.

“To each there comes in their lifetime a special moment when they are figuratively tapped on the shoulder and offered the chance to do a very special thing, unique to them and fitted to their talents. What a tragedy if that moment finds them unprepared or unqualified for that which could have been their finest hour.”.
Winston Churchill


137 posted on 02/22/2018 11:03:42 PM PST by DesertRhino (Dog is man's best friend, and moslems hate dogs. Add that up. ....)
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To: DoughtyOne

The shooter was walking around trying to shoot anyone he could. Anyone within shooting distance of this guy was already in grave danger.

The scenario that you describe just is not plausible. If there were students that could be caught in a cross fire, they would have already been targets.

And the chances of someone a floor above, a floor below, or outside being hit is minuscule compared to the likelihood of the shooter being able to walk to the next room and kill people hiding inside, if given time to do so.


151 posted on 02/22/2018 11:11:15 PM PST by sipow
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To: DoughtyOne

You are too stupid it’s not even funny. You watch too many movies. By your logic it’s O.K. to have this carnage because responding would cause more deaths. You cannot name on scenario where this is true.


186 posted on 02/23/2018 2:52:11 AM PST by ChiMark (America America)
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To: DoughtyOne
"Unfortunately, it WOULD NOT be only our life you would be putting on the line. Any children in the hallway, the nearby rooms, upstairs, downstairs, or even outside could have been hit while he shot at you.


That's one of the most ignorant things I've ever seen posted on FR. You seem to have forgotten what the officer was supposed to be responding to.

I see completely what you're trying to say in your defense of this deputy, but to imply that he'd further endanger kids WHO WERE ALREADY BEING SHOT by engaging the shooter, is simply ludicrous.
224 posted on 02/23/2018 6:07:44 AM PST by Hugh the Scot ("The days of being a keyboard commando are over. It's time to get some bloody knuckles." -Drew68)
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To: DoughtyOne

Better just to let the perp go ahead and shoot everybody... right? What a disgrace. In fact, why even have a damn gun and a badge. All this coward needed was a phone... hell not even that. He could have borrowed one.


229 posted on 02/23/2018 7:21:31 AM PST by Lagmeister ( false prophets shall rise, and shall show signs and wonders Mark 13:22)
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