Before power steering it was practically required. Truckers loved the steering knob.
Posted on 02/16/2018 11:13:02 AM PST by nickcarraway
How 2 recent SCOTUS cases could change police search and seizureTwo cases recently argued before SCOTUS could narrow or expand warrantless searches – and they could reach back to what police are doing now
2018 started off with a double-feature in the U.S. Supreme Court starring the Fourth Amendment and police authority to search and seize.
COLLINS V. VIRGINIA
Motorcyclist Ryan Collins whizzed by an officer at 140 mph, eluding efforts to stop him. The officer did get photos and a license plate number. After seeing images of the parked bike on Collins’ Facebook page, the officer tracked it to the home of his girlfriend where Collins spent several nights a week. There the officer saw the Suzuki in the driveway nosing out from under a tarp, walked up, and uncovered it. The license plate and VIN confirmed it was the motorcycle – and that it was stolen.
This case pits the automobile exception to a warrant requirement against the Fourth Amendment’s protection of a home and its curtilage from warrantless searches.
The automobile exception arose out of a 1925 traffic stop. Because vehicles are mobile and, the Supreme Court added in 1985, carry a diminished expectation of privacy for their occupants, police may search them on the spot without a warrant when they have probable cause to believe they contain evidence of a crime.
Collins’ attorney conceded the officer had probable cause to believe the motorcycle he saw from the street was the one that had eluded him. He argued a competing Fourth Amendment principle trumped the automobile exception – that when officers go to a residence to look for contraband, even mobile contraband (such as drugs), they need a warrant absent exigent circumstances.
The Virginia Supreme Court did not rule on whether exigent circumstances existed, relying instead on a categorical application of the automobile exception. Accordingly, the government was limited to that argument before the U.S. Supreme Court.
The government’s attorney acknowledged the long-standing warrant requirement protection of homes and their curtilage, but argued the motorcycle was readily mobile and Collins had less expectation of privacy in it parked outside his girlfriend’s house in view of the street than what the Court had decided in previous curtilage cases. The attorney concluded that if the Court wanted to limit the categorical automobile exception, it should draw that line between the home and the curtilage.
Justices Sotomayor, Gorsuch, and Kagan seemed reluctant to draw a new, bright line between the home and curtilage. As Sotomayor asked,
“Even if the police know that the driver of this car is away on vacation and won’t be returning for two weeks, they’re not required to go to a magistrate and get a warrant?”
And Justice Roberts pressed the government on whether the categorical automobile exception would apply to vehicles actually in a house, like Jay Leno’s, “Where he’s got dozens of rare cars?”
But Justice Alito seemed open to the government’s privacy argument when he noted that the officer walking a few feet up the driveway was not that different than if the bike had been parked on the street and the home wasn’t even Collins’.
BYRD V. UNITED STATES
Terence Byrd was driving his fiancée’s rental car when a trooper pulled him over for driving too long in the left lane while passing, and “suspiciously” keeping his hands in the 10-2 positions on the steering wheel.
During the stop, Byrd acted nervous and admitted he had a marijuana cigarette in the car. Troopers decided to search the car, advising Byrd they didn’t need his consent because the rental agreement didn’t authorize him as a driver. In the trunk, troopers found body armor and heroin, which Byrd acknowledged he had planned to sell.
Byrd’s attorney argued the rental agreement didn’t determine Byrd’s constitutional rights. What mattered was whether Byrd had a reasonable expectation of privacy when, with the permission of his fiancée, he put his belongings in the trunk.
Justices Breyer, Roberts and Gorsuch indicated they preferred a bright-line rule that would be easier to apply than a circumstances dependent, case-by-case determination of reasonable expectation of privacy. As Chief Justice Roberts noted,
“One of the things that I think is very important in these types of cases is the ability to give clear guidance not only to the courts but to the police.”
The government attorney offered such a rule. If a driver of a rental car is not included on the rental agreement, he does not have enough of a connection to the car to treat it as his “effect” protected by the Fourth Amendment.
But Justice Sotomayor worried that would authorize “police to stop and search every rental car, without probable cause, that might be on the road.” When the government responded there was no evidence such stops were “a widespread problem,” Sotomayor triggered laughter in the courtroom by noting the troopers conceded they stopped Byrd “because he was driving a rental car” and they found it “suspicious” that his hands were positioned where every driving school teaches you to place them.
RETROACTIVE APPLICATION OF FOURTH AMENDMENT DECISIONS
The rulings in these cases – expected by the end of June – are difficult to predict. If the Court decides them on “settled principles of law,” they could apply retroactively to any case where a conviction was not yet final. Conversely, if the decisions make "a clear break with the past," the new principles would be nonretroactive.
Accordingly, in the interim, police may want to:
Hold off on warrantless searches of vehicles on a home’s curtilage absent exigent circumstances distinct from the automobile exception Not rely on a rental car agreement’s non-authorization of the driver to search a vehicle.
save for later
Actually, now some of the “experts” are saying 9-3 because if the airbag is deployed with your hands/wrists above it, you may get severe hand/arm injuries .....
But, yes, 10-2 has been widely taught for decades.
Just wait for police doing warrentless gun confiscations. Oh wait. There won’t be anymore cops. The rise of the militias.
Either way, it hardly seems like a legitimate basis for “suspicion.”
Of course, it seems like a silly pretext for “suspicion” when it is standard Driver’s Ed fare.
Maybe the reasoning is that so few drivers actually do it that someone trying to drive perfectly “by the book” is a suspicious character, heh heh.....
Not any longer. 10-3 or 8-4 is better. The reason is because of the airbag. At 10-2 you can be degloved, have your hand amputated or even get your hand blasted back shattering your face in the process.
As to your question as it relates to the article, only people high, drunk or smuggling something use 10-2. heh.
It used to be 10 & 2, but with the advent of airbags most driving schools recommend 9 & 3. This is because the airbag *could* break your arms when it deploys.
Airbags: a bomb in your steering wheel: What could POSSIBLY go wrong?
Before power steering it was practically required. Truckers loved the steering knob.
Prediction: Both decisions against the government.
California Suicide Knob
My first thought, admittedly, was "who hides their bike under a tarp?... probably somebody who had stolen it."
Second thought was - how hard is it to get a warrant?
Seems to me the spoke of the wheel would interfere with a 9-3 position. Someone else recommended 8-4. That accommodates the spokes, but I think it would be uncomfortable. Of course, not as uncomfortable as getting your hand blown off.
Police watch for people driving too carefully. They assume the person is trying to avoid being pulled over. How’s that logic?
especially when pulled over, they want to see your hands.
Actually, lots of motorcyclists store their legally-owned, not stolen motorcycles outside under a tarp or cover to protect it from the elements and prying eyes when it’s not in use. This is such a commmon practice that outdoor covers are stocked in every Walmart in America.
One of my two motorcycles is stored indoors, the other is sitting outside right now with a cover on it.
The spokes of the wheel are usually set up to not only allow but encourage a 9 and 3 hand position. Professional rally and race drivers never used 10 and 2 as it is less conducive to control in the first place.
That’s not an automobile, it’s a motorcycle
How do they know he was the one driving?
140 MPH, the only thing they saw was his tag getting smaller
They should’ve never come past the sidewalk, no felony.
Never,never,never let them search w/o a warrant
They can explain to a judge why they need it, then explain why they didn’t find anything.
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