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Air Force expelled her in 1955 for being a lesbian Now at 90 she's getting an honorable discharge
Wapo via Sfgate ^ | January 18, 2018 | Kyle Swenson

Posted on 02/14/2018 8:28:34 AM PST by Salman

A California woman kicked out of the military 60 years ago for being a lesbian has finally had her rights restored.

In 1955, Airman Second Class Helen Grace James was targeted and investigated by Air Force officials for her sexuality, part of a massive effort to remove gay and lesbian service members known as the "Lavender Scare."

Now, at 90, and living in California, James filed a federal lawsuit earlier this month against the U.S. Air Force seeking to upgrade her "undesirable" discharge to "honorable."

This week, James's attorney received word the Air Force Board for Correction of Military Records has agreed to change her status. "The Board has decided to upgrade Helen's discharge status to Honorable," James's attorney, J. Cacilia Kim, told The Washington Post.

(Excerpt) Read more at sfgate.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Extended News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: homosexualagenda; military
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To: TallahasseeConservative

Thank you.


21 posted on 02/14/2018 9:00:16 AM PST by Bigg Red (Francis is a Nincompope.)
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To: Buckeye McFrog

They probably figured “Feh, she’s 90, she won’t collect Vet benefits for very long, and we don’t want the PR blowback from saying no.”

Wouldn’t she be owed back benefits though?

If they have decided she was wrongly discharged, she could have all sorts of back pay and benefits due.

I would think the decision opens a can of worms.


22 posted on 02/14/2018 9:04:43 AM PST by ltc8k6
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To: al baby

I’m stealing that if you don’t mind.


23 posted on 02/14/2018 9:13:10 AM PST by tbpiper
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To: Salman

Nobody has a “right” to an honourable discharge if they were breaking the rules in place.


24 posted on 02/14/2018 9:16:38 AM PST by Yashcheritsiy (Bring back lords and kings)
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To: ltc8k6
If they have decided she was wrongly discharged, she could have all sorts of back pay and benefits due. I would think the decision opens a can of worms.

The case would take years to wind through the Fed Courts. She does not have years.


25 posted on 02/14/2018 9:21:25 AM PST by Buckeye McFrog
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To: Yashcheritsiy

This stupid. It deserves what it got.


26 posted on 02/14/2018 9:21:32 AM PST by hal ogen (First Amendment or Reeducation Camp?)
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To: TallahasseeConservative

Fair enough.


27 posted on 02/14/2018 9:21:50 AM PST by Az Joe (Gloria in excelsis Deo)
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To: Az Joe

I do have a problem with it. She lied in order to enter the military back then. She had to - the question was in the enlistment papers.

The fact that she lied to get in makes her service less than honorable.


28 posted on 02/14/2018 9:34:56 AM PST by MortMan (We are living in interesting times.)
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To: Salman

If she’s having a discharge, she should have that looked at.


29 posted on 02/14/2018 9:35:51 AM PST by DannyTN
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To: Salman

Stupid. So, can I get my speeding violation ex post facto dismissed because they raised the speed limit a few years later?

The law IN EFFECT at the time is just as valid.


30 posted on 02/14/2018 10:01:33 AM PST by fwdude (History has no 'sides;' you're thinking of geometry.)
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To: Az Joe
The big problem I have with this is that she enlisted under false pretenses to begin with. She lied about her sexual orientation outright. That most assuredly was a direct question during the enlistment process. We all remember that as well as bedwetting and talking in your sleep.

Why this is a big deal is many people lied about their age and served honorably even heroically in WWII, Korea and Viet Nam and the best they got was a general discharge. You want to fix something, fix that.

31 posted on 02/14/2018 10:05:07 AM PST by pfflier
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To: Salman

That rug has some age on it.


32 posted on 02/14/2018 10:08:16 AM PST by gathersnomoss
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To: pfflier

She paid the penalty for her lie by 62 years living with an Undesirable discharge. Time served


33 posted on 02/14/2018 10:13:10 AM PST by Az Joe (Gloria in excelsis Deo)
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To: MortMan

Then at least give her a General, under Honorable. 62 years living with an U.D. is punishment enough don’t you think?


34 posted on 02/14/2018 10:14:32 AM PST by Az Joe (Gloria in excelsis Deo)
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To: Az Joe
Does that allow her, assuming other qualification are met, to re-enlist in the armed services?

I wouldn't allow that.

35 posted on 02/14/2018 10:45:52 AM PST by fwdude (History has no 'sides;' you're thinking of geometry.)
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To: fwdude

Irrelevant non-sequiter


36 posted on 02/14/2018 11:32:30 AM PST by Az Joe (Gloria in excelsis Deo)
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To: Salman

Apparently, the military is still firmly infiltrated by Leftists. Those that suffer from the homosexual disorder should not serve in the military. The military should not be normalizing disordered behavior.


37 posted on 02/14/2018 11:50:36 AM PST by DBeers (The concept of peace in Islam requires not co-existence but submission.)
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To: Buckeye McFrog

“The case would take years to wind through the Fed Courts. She does not have years.”

But there must be a lot of people in the same situation that this ruling would set precedent for?

A court could easily rule that they are due a lot of money since they were denied years of pay and a 20 year retirement possibility. Or full retirement a lot earlier in one of the RIF periods.


38 posted on 02/14/2018 11:58:44 AM PST by ltc8k6
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To: Salman
A California woman kicked out of the military 60 years ago for being a lesbian has finally had her rights restored.

And what RIGHTS would those be?

39 posted on 02/14/2018 1:59:40 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: robroys woman
Can you imagine the legal mayhem we would have today if slaves and slave owners from the pre-civil-war days were still alive?

You left out the, "Oh... Wait..."


Who has to be alive?

There IS precedence...


Pope Stephen VI (896–897), who had his predecessor Pope Formosus exhumed, tried, de-fingered, briefly reburied, and thrown in the Tiber.[1]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Bad_Popes

40 posted on 02/14/2018 2:02:27 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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