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L.A. County set to build its first new freeway in 25 years, despite many misgivings
L A Times ^ | Feb 10, 2018 | 3:00 AM | Louis Sahagun

Posted on 02/10/2018 6:41:05 PM PST by BenLurkin

The California Department of Transportation, in cooperation with a joint powers authority, will in June begin buying land to build a 63-mile high desert freeway connecting the Los Angeles County communities of Palmdale and Lancaster with the San Bernardino County communities of Victorville, Apple Valley and Adelanto.

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The county’s first new freeway in a quarter-century is something of a throwback, as regional planners have shifted their focus in recent years toward mass transit and infill development to combat snarled traffic and housing shortages. Yet it serves as a reminder that even as Los Angeles moves to encourage more density in its urban neighborhoods, development continues to push into the scrublands on the county’s fringes.

...Palmdale and Lancaster have seen their populations surge — even landing among the nation’s 10 fastest-growing cities in 2007, according to the U.S. Census Bureau. T

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The environmental impact report has already been approved, paving the way for right of way agents to begin acquiring land this spring with $274 million generated by Measure M, a sales tax increase approved by Los Angeles County voters in 2016 to build transportation projects over the next 40 years.

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State and county officials say they may decide to build in phases as funding becomes available. Proposals to make certain stretches of the freeway, or its entire length, a toll road are also under discussion, officials say.

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The route would run roughly parallel to State Route 18 and State Highway 138, also known as Pearblossom Highway. Congestion is a problem on Highway 138 thanks to big rigs, commuters and travelers to Las Vegas.

(Excerpt) Read more at latimes.com ...


TOPICS: Government; News/Current Events; US: California
KEYWORDS: california; freeway; losangelescounty; puccinisroad
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To: Yaelle

Grandson went to Village Christian in Sun Valley and it was a 25 minute drive for me! HA...
Of course we are nearing our 80’s!!

I thought that was bad....but yikes.. 100 miles a day. I would do it too if it meant quality schooling!!


41 posted on 02/10/2018 8:55:51 PM PST by pollywog (" O thou who changest not....ABIDE with me")
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To: Scrambler Bob
This is mostly what will be going' down on the new high desert fwy:


42 posted on 02/10/2018 9:02:08 PM PST by bkopto
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To: BenLurkin
even as Los Angeles moves to encourage more density in its urban neighborhoods

That should appeal to New Yorker's and other eastern urban types, the ones that skewed California politics in the 70's. L.A. wants to be more like eastern liberal hellholes.

So glad I lived there growing up in the Golden Age, only to see the decline. Got out just in time, cashing in on the insane real estate prices. We get a biter laugh out of the news of decay and degradation.

43 posted on 02/10/2018 9:03:25 PM PST by doorgunner69 (Give me the liberty to take care of my own security..........)
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To: bkopto
Or one of these:


44 posted on 02/10/2018 9:04:54 PM PST by bkopto
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To: bkopto

This is what happens when stupid people get lots of money.


45 posted on 02/10/2018 9:22:38 PM PST by ROCKLOBSTER (The Obama is about to hit the fan.)
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To: BenLurkin
Just what Adelanto & the Victor Valley needs - easier, less crowded access for the gang-bangers, drug dealers & felons’ families to drive in on. Makes me super sad to see what has happened to the high desert in the past 40 years & since GAFB closed.

The desert was my playground as a child/youth. We use to climb & build treehouses in the Joshua trees. Good times.

46 posted on 02/10/2018 9:30:00 PM PST by zlala
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To: Mike Darancette

Gee.

Thanks.


48 posted on 02/10/2018 9:43:15 PM PST by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either satire or opinion. Or both.)
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To: a fool in paradise

You can move a heck of a lot more people with a lane of freeway than you can with a train. But trains generate fares that can be easily embezzled, so leftists prefer trains.


49 posted on 02/10/2018 10:37:22 PM PST by American in Israel (A wise man's heart directs him to the right, but the foolish mans heart directs him toward the left.)
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To: CodeToad

This should have been 100% built and owned and operated by private enterprise.


50 posted on 02/10/2018 11:07:43 PM PST by vooch (America First Drain the Swamp)
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To: BenLurkin

Why not just build a giant conveyor belt? You drive onto the belt from side street belts, You have a choice to put it in park for a long ride or you can let the auto drive take over because on the beltway (!) You have no control....


51 posted on 02/11/2018 12:34:15 AM PST by Daniel Ramsey (Thank YOU President Trump, finally we can do what America does best, to be the best)
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To: BenLurkin

It will be another 25 years before they even turn dirt, if at all. All it needs is an endangered bug and this will just join the ash heap of planned but never finished projects. But just think of all those people who will get paid for years in the planning process.


52 posted on 02/11/2018 12:43:24 AM PST by taxesareforever (Islam is an ideology. It is NOT a religion.)
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To: Windflier

The “no highways in rich areas” is classic in central CT. The “beltway” around Hartford was completed in all the poor areas, and not one inch was built in a rich area—and has remained in this status for fifty years!

The result is flyover exit ramps to nowhere.

Some pigs are more equal than others.


53 posted on 02/11/2018 2:49:18 AM PST by cgbg (Hidden behind the social justice warrior mask is corruption and sexual deviance.)
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To: cgbg

The early highway builders would have done well to have given stronger preference to the low hanging fruit during both the planning and construction phases — swamplands, uninhabited forests, abandoned industrial sites — before tackling the areas where anyone with common sense could have foreseen controversy. For the latter they ought to have developed more effective strategies for “gingerly” road building. They didn’t, and the new rule of thumb is: highways just don’t get built.


54 posted on 02/11/2018 7:29:32 AM PST by Mmmike
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55 posted on 02/11/2018 7:32:41 AM PST by EveningStar (I am a Non-Cultist Trump Supporter.)
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To: 1_Inch_Group

And give the drive-by shooters a faster way out of town.


56 posted on 02/11/2018 7:52:28 AM PST by Vaduz (women and children to be impacIQ of chimpsted the most.)
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To: DoughtyOne

On the way to Reno, the my least favorite stretch of Rte. 395 is through the Adelanto area. It’s stop-and-go with a lot of red lights. This is followed by a long stretch of a two-lane road in which passing is prohibited, so if you get behind a slow poke, you’re out of luck until you get to Kramer Junction.

I find it’s actually faster to take the 15 through Victorville to D Street, which is old Rte. 66, and cut across. If it’s breakfast or lunch time, I’ll stop at Emma Jean’s Holland Burger Cafe on old 66 just west of the 15.


57 posted on 02/11/2018 8:06:36 AM PST by Fiji Hill (u)
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To: BenLurkin

The long awaited Meth Lab Freeway.


58 posted on 02/11/2018 10:22:06 AM PST by Pelham (California, a subsidiary of Mexico, Inc.)
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To: Moonmad27

“”Traveled numerous times on Pearblossom Highway.””

Same here from OC to Hi Vista - 20 miles east of Lancaster - to visit inlaws... Quiet, peaceful time on weekends away from the city!! The road had dips in it and our daughter at a young age would laugh every time we went down and then up...

The pictures in the article bring back a lot of memories. We did a lot of shooting out there in the middle of nowhere...


59 posted on 02/11/2018 10:48:48 AM PST by Thank You Rush
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To: Pagey
Do we want every citizen South of the 10 freeway, all the way to the water, coming in our city? NO!

In 1959 my parents were turned away from buying a house in a new tract development in Pomona because they were black. Didn't matter that my dad was an Army Captain in uniform, and my mom looked like Jackie Kennedy with a suntan. They were forced to buy a home in Compton anyway.

It didn't matter that my parents were quality people. Their complexion was just a shade too 'enriched'.

Apparently, its still 1959 in South Pasadena.

60 posted on 02/11/2018 11:09:53 AM PST by Windflier (Pitchforks and torches ripen on the vine. Left too long, they become black rifles.)
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