Posted on 02/10/2018 10:51:53 AM PST by bgill
Although recent state and federal measures should help prevent opioids from being prescribed or over-prescribed to minors, its unclear just how often doctors are prescribing the highly addictive drug to Texas children since regulations tracking and analyzing opioids in children are lax. Allison Benz, executive director of the Texas State Board of Pharmacy, said children may be prescribed opioids for routine procedures, such as treatment of a torn ACL or wisdom teeth removal. Its what happens afterwards, when a child possibly becomes addicted, thats an issue. She said a child might like the way it feels and then go searching in the parents or grandparents medicine cabinets, or even steal opioids when theyre visiting their friends. Eventually, that could lead to a dangerous life of addiction.
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Wow, that's a ridiculous nearly two per person.
I begged for some relief from a bad knee that hurt so much it was better to hold the pee than get to the bathroom. One Tramadol later and no way NEVER AGAIN!!!!! That's some bad juju. Splitting headache, nausea, wanted to die, etc. Don't know why people want that stuff.
You may have been allergic to it.
At some point, given America’s determination to swing violently from one side to another, we are going to end up with no pain medication for the sick and dying and everybody else doped up out of their minds.
You’ve gotta have rocks in your head the size of Gibraltar to give this stuff to kids. I was given ridiculous pain pills when I had minor foot surgery a few years ago. I hated how they made me feel and there’s no way I could go to work zombied-out like that. During the day, I let it hurt and took a Motrin at night so that I could sleep. Just because they prescribe them, it doesn’t mean you have to take them or give them to your kids.
As a toddler, my daughter showed some signs of Aspberger’s and we had clearance to put her on all kinds of drugs. Nope, we didn’t do that. Her signs mostly disappeared by age 6 and she’s fine today at age 10.
I also had a doctor try to put me on cholesterol medication a few years ago when my cholesterol was in the normal range. Nope, I’m not going to take pills just to take them. Doctors do this crap all the time.
I was on 160 Roxys and didn’t feel anything.
Just stopped taking them after a month
This was over 10 years ago and someone told me that I could get 1500 dollars for my five dollar bottle.
But I don’t deal in selling death. Nor was I fond of the idea of going to prison.
The company that makes oxycontin made a huge settlement for lying about its addictive effects.
I am on klonopin for seizures from head injury, and I AM addicted to that. 4mgs a day and get sick as a dog after 24 hours without taking it.
So 150mg roxys stopped cold turkey, no problem.
Klonopin, I’d be in the ER in 3 days without it.
Go figure.
Good Job Jeffery the Innocent, wouldn’t want children in pain to get relief.
I’m not Evil Kenevil, but I’ve had a whole bunch of injuries over my life (66y/o). I’ve been on opioids many times over the years and damned glad I was.
I don’t know why some can manage and others can’t. Very serious stuff, but I believe it helps far far more than it hurts.
Tramadol is sorry
An excuse to replace more effective opiates to suit alarmists
I d five kids from 10-29
Never were they prescribed opiates.....never....
I lied...once for wisdom teeth pulling
#moreopiatehysterianoiseplease
Seizures?
I had clonazapam for a head injury and feared seizures
I took 2 green ones a day and quit cold turkey
It didn’t bother me....weird
I regard pain and symptoms of disease as part of the healing process. It's the body sending signals about when to slow down and heal.
” Why don’t we just do away with medicine and we and just lay on hands and pray” Jeffery the innocent. AKA part-time Attorney General
I had a very serious head injury too.
Yeah it’s given for seizures and it’s the only thing that worked.
It also helped the whole body tremors i would wake up with but didn’t totally get rid of them.
That’s a gift for life :)
Hope you’re faring well.
Every med acts on every person differently. Go figure.
160mg roxys, cold turkey and nothing
4mgs klonopin, I feel like I was hit with the worst flu in the world in a day or two if I don’t pick up my script
One note Johnnies are really irritating nuisances. One needs a pain pill to endure them, figuratively it seems.
Hello this is why we have pediatric medicine. Kids will bounce back faster than adults will.
But why is this Texas item being mixed in here. Does Childress County have a lot of old folks?
Habituation may start physical but staying there unnecessarily is spiritual. Getting past it needs to be a God and prayer and bible promise and church thing. I’d sooner a world where the risks of sin are visible than where they are all hushed up and pretended they aren’t there.
Tramadol, from research I have done, seems to be the latest attempt at an opiate that’s not trumpeted as such. Any new drug of that kind should be started slow. See how half a tablet kicks in before trying more. And be ready to sleep it off all day. If it lets you rest that is half the battle.
Both/and are the thing.
Alcoholism is less among Jews who commonly use wine in religious ceremony than those who don’t. It is tied to God that way.
A little mercy is worth a lot of philosophy. By all means observe and see if pain is present and interfering with even rest. Then by all means call the doctor: God has appointed his or her post. By interfering with the knowledge of God to resolve pain stories, we would side with Satan. God doesn’t get glory in being spartan for spartanhood’s sake.
If a kid does need a very major surgery, such as for scoliosis, or cardiac surgery, trauma, inevitably, these children will require opioids for acute and subacute pain during the outpatient rehabilitative process which wound generally be months. Without opioids, PT and daily activities would be compromised.
At this point, I think that physicians need to withhold opioids to children. The rules with respect to opioid prescribing are puposely too vague and the risks to providers are too great. We need to get to a point where children are refused painful and invasive surgery because of fears over opioid prescribing. Perhaps a politician, a prosecutor, or bureacrat’s kid will be denied surgery on this basis. Good, they can reap what they sow. Maybe then, the hysteria will diminish and we can have a balanced and rational discussion on opioids for pain management.
The anti-opioid zealots might claim that they don’t want to go this far. But, no provider wants to risk their liberty or property to practice medicine. Remember, as we have seen with corrupt agencies such as the FBI, the investigatory process is indeed a punishment.
I fully agree. Opiod based pain meds make me loopey AND give me hives. I prefer Advil and thus far, thank GOD above, that is all I need.
Would rather use a bite guard and grit my teeth than take that stuff!!
Call me stupid or naive but that is my two cents worth.
The reason that you cant go without your Klonopin is because Klonopin is a Benzo and Benzos are extremely addictive.
I am prescribed Xanax (another Benzo) for severe anxiety, panic attacks and racing thoughts. It also helps with suicidal thoughts. Like you, I can not miss a dose or I will become ill and suffer extreme panic. That is normal when you become dependent on Benzos. It doesnt take long to become physically addicted to them.
A few months after I started Xanax, I ran out early because my dosage was too low and I had to take more to make up for it. A few nights later, I was lying in bed hearing voices and experiencing severe hallucinations. It got so bad that I was ready to grab the gun in the next room and end it. Luckily, I remembered that a close relative took Xanax.
I called her and explained my predicament. She came with some Xanax and a few of her husbands Klonopin. She saved my life. I got my doctor to up my dosage so that wouldnt happen again.
The reason I told you that story was to emphasize that you NEVER go cold turkey from Benzos. Benzo withdrawal can cause seizures and, in extreme cases, death. That is why you feel so bad when you miss a dose of Klonopin.
Dont get me wrong, Benzos can be wonderful. Especially in your case, for seizure prevention.
Sorry for the long post, but I wanted to let you know why you feel so bad when you miss your Klonopin dose.
Tramadol is 1 of the worse for side effects and ADDICTION. Puking is quite normal with any opioid, Phragan or it’s generic taken with stops that aspect. NORCO which is Oxycontin is the usual 5mg takes care of most minor surgery pain. Dilauded IV for stronger major pain. But they are giving Lower doses than they use to as my ER trip for Diverticulitis proved last week. I PUKE on any form of opioid so have to have Phragan to take it.
Having had my wisdom teeth CUT as they were sideways, with stitches, that requires something a lot stronger than Tylenol.
Dont be sorry at all, it was very helpful.
I have to learn things the INCREDIBLY hard way and maybe a dozen times before it sinks in.
I would not feel like dropping off the script and then a day later would wonder why I felt like hell, making it HARDER to get to the pharmacy! Then day 2 I’m a Disaster and crawl there.
I learned my lesson and also the meds are sent through the computer to the pharmacy and I picked one that delivers :)
Better to admit i’m too lazy to get there on time than to die!!
BTW, I am very sorry you suffer from those maladies. I know this is cliche, but going to the ER is better than the alternative in an emergency.
After my brain injury, about a year later, I gave up and took 100 xanax. Didn’t kill me obviously but what a nightmarish bunch of days in the hospital!!! They weren’t sure that the conversations I was having with no one would end. They knew folks where it didn’t.
That was 9 years ago and I am VERY glad I didn’t succeed.
Klonopin 1 mg is a drug reaction in 2 pills for me. Were as 10mg Valium just releaves the Spinal Degenerative Perpherial Neuropathy pain.
Take it away and I go into Hyper Tension, with an Enlarged Heart with sm. Mitral valve leak can’t risk it. Cardzim 30 mg was a ER trip. I’m the side effect Queen at the Pharmancy, a doctors night mare to treat.
When I had thumb surgery last March I got 14 7.5 Mg NORCO NO refills. Now it’s down to 3 for minor and 5 for major surgery for home. And a lot of Major surgeries have become same day ones like my thumb surgery was. Ice packs and Tylenol handled the pain, it was Rehab that was more painful so I eked them out for that which was 13 weeks of torture.
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