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George W. Bush: 'Clear evidence Russians meddled' in election
Washington Post ^ | Feb 8, 2018 | By Kristine Phillips

Posted on 02/08/2018 11:45:29 AM PST by Lazamataz

Former president George W. Bush said he believes Russia meddled in the 2016 U.S. presidential election, departing from President Trump, who has been skeptical of intelligence agencies’ findings that the Kremlin had interfered to help him win.

“There’s pretty clear evidence that the Russians meddled. Whether they affected the outcome is another question,” the 43rd president said at a summit in Abu Dhabi on Thursday. He added: “It’s problematic that a foreign nation is involved in our election system. Our democracy is only as good as people trust the results.”

Bush has been critical of Russia, slamming it for working to “exploit our country’s divisions.”

“The Russian government has made a project of turning Americans against each other,” Bush said during a forum in New York in October.

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To: Lazamataz

BUT IT’S COMPLETELY FINE WHEN CORRUPT DEMOCRATS AND REPUBLICANS WIN!


21 posted on 02/08/2018 11:53:54 AM PST by poobear (Socialism in the minds of the elites is a con-game for the serfs, nothing more.)
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To: Lazamataz

NWO2 speaks. Globalists and their lackeys listen.


22 posted on 02/08/2018 11:55:41 AM PST by Prolixus (Drain the swamp!!!)
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To: Lazamataz

And how many children had their heads blown off in your phony War Georgie, while you held hands and mouth kissed the Saudi King that sponsored the terrorists behind the attack.


23 posted on 02/08/2018 11:55:42 AM PST by heights
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To: Lazamataz

Where are all you “Day in the Life of President Bush” slobbering FReepers at now.

“Ooooh! Bush dragging a tree branch! He’sth so muscular ands handsome!”


24 posted on 02/08/2018 11:56:10 AM PST by Extremely Extreme Extremist
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To: Ann Archy

That’s an excellent point. Don’t be thrown by the cordial talk between Trump and Putin. That’s being magnanimous. Both agree that it’s a really inconvenient time for a big fight. Dirt on Trump was solicited by Hell-ary. It didn’t throw the whole election.


25 posted on 02/08/2018 11:56:57 AM PST by HiTech RedNeck (Tryin' hard to win the No-Bull Prize.)
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To: Lazamataz

So what?

Russia has meddled with every election since 1908.

Talk about the meddling of our own law enforcement and intel agencies in the Trump election that could have thrown the election to Clinton.

The Russians are bit players and always will be.


26 posted on 02/08/2018 11:57:36 AM PST by gandalftb
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To: Lazamataz

Go away, W!

You learned to paint, and you're not bad at it. Everyone is happier when you do it.

27 posted on 02/08/2018 11:57:57 AM PST by GCC Catholic (Trump doesn't suffer fools, but fools will suffer Trump. Make America Great Again!)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

it’s been upstaged by wwe rassler trump clobbering mcmahon with a cnn poopy head.


28 posted on 02/08/2018 11:58:47 AM PST by HiTech RedNeck (Tryin' hard to win the No-Bull Prize.)
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To: WashingtonFire

I refused to vote for him the first time around.

In 2004 I decided I couldn’t risk a Kerry administration.

Your dad was right.

Bush’s amnesty desires told me everything I needed to know about him.


29 posted on 02/08/2018 11:58:50 AM PST by DoughtyOne (01/26/18 DJIA 30 stocks $26,616.71 48.794% > open 11/07/16 215.71 from 50% increase 1.2183 yrs..)
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To: Lazamataz

bush threads at FR could easily be someone’s dissertation in abnormal psych.

when in doubt, post a bush-bashing thread for the zillionth time today.

it’s always sufficient to get another few dozen pissed off people to post the same pissed off things they say every time a bush-bashing thread gets posted.

but we just don’t seem to feel complete unless we tell george bush to kiss our ass . . . one . . . more . . . time.


30 posted on 02/08/2018 11:58:56 AM PST by JohnBrowdie
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To: Lazamataz

When Globalist scum get their Orders, they Jump.


31 posted on 02/08/2018 11:59:21 AM PST by heights
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To: Lazamataz

Hey, Shrub how much meddling in America’s elections have your amigos, the Elite Mexicans and their illegals in Texas/Arizona/New Mexico and Californicator land done?

Since you were president?

How much do your Deep State Masters pay you for spewing your bs?

Do us a favor and pretend your buddy Obozo is still president. Then, shut up like you did for the eight years obozo was president!


32 posted on 02/08/2018 11:59:43 AM PST by Grampa Dave (When is it OUR TURN to keep our own money and live our own dreams!!!!????)
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To: Lazamataz

“There’s pretty clear evidence that the Russians meddled. Whether they affected the outcome is another question,”

Has there been ANY evidence produced whatsoever showing the “Russians” did anything? I keep hearing this claim over and over again but have yet to see one scintilla of “evidence.”

We are to go off the word of the corrupt FBI “telling” us it was “the Russians”. Someone please help me here but has any evidence been produced?


33 posted on 02/08/2018 12:00:26 PM PST by Jarhead9297
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To: Lazamataz
Here we are, and another person who has held authority in the American Republic, calls this a "democracy"--and this one is a former Republican Party President!

But, how about this, from another former President, son of a co-author and supporter of the Declaration of Independence, and himself a former President, declaring that this is not a democracy, and citing the reasons why the Framers of our form of self-government by "the People" is a Republic.

At the 50th Anniversary of the Constitution, John Quincy Adams, in his "Jubilee" Address, delivered in New York City in April 1839, thoroughly explained the Framers' choice of republic over that of a democracy.

Today, in 2018, when confronted with a decision between individual freedom and slavery, otherwise known as liberty and tyranny, Americans who prefer freedom must be armed with ideas and principles which are "self-evident" and plain. Otherwise, they cannot fend off the onslaught of the "counterfeit ideas" of the Far Left ideologues.

When America's Founders and Framers of their Constitution wanted to convince ordinary farmers and citizens of the merits of a written "People's" Constitution to limit the powers of those to whom they entrust the powers of government, they published and circulated 85 essays, known as THE FEDERALIST.

It's time for citizens, once again, to examine those strong and clear words of Madison Hamilton, and Jay. They are just as clear for today's audience as they were then. Circulate the following excerpts to your friends. Even the least politically savvy will "get" Madison's meaning, especially in light of the power grab now going on in Washington. After all, THE FEDERALIST was the Framers' authoritative explanation of their Constitution, and directed by the Board of Visitors of the University of Virginia in 1825 to be used as the text for its law school in its studies of "the general principles of liberty and the rights of man," and said by Jefferson to "constitute 'the general opinion of those who framed, and of those who accepted the Constitution of the U.S., on questions as to its genuine meaning.'":

"The house of representatives... can make no law which will not have its full operation on themselves and their friends, as well as the great mass of society. This has always been deemed one of the strongest bonds by which human policy can connect the rulers and the people together. It creates between them that communion of interest, and sympathy of sentiments, of which few governments have furnished examples; but without which every government degenerates into tyranny." - Federalist Papers, No. 57, February 19, 1788

"The aim of every political constitution is, or ought to be, first to obtain for rulers men who possess most wisdom to discern, and most virtue to pursue, the common good of the society; and in the next place, to take the most effectual precautions for keeping them virtuous whilst they continue to hold their public trust." - Federalist Papers, No. 57, February 19, 1788

"Such will be the relation between the House of Representatives and their constituents. Duty gratitude, interest, ambition itself, are the cords by which they will be bound to fidelity and sympathy with the great mass of the people." - Federalist Papers, No. 57, February 19, 1788

"If it be asked what is to restrain the House of Representatives from making legal discriminations in favor of themselves and a particular class of the society? I answer, the genius of the whole system, the nature of just and constitutional laws, and above all the vigilant and manly spirit which actuates the people of America, a spirit which nourishes freedom, and in return is nourished by it." - Federalist Papers, No. 57, February 19, 1788

"An elective despotism was not the government we fought for; but one in which the powers of government should be so divided and balanced among the several bodies of magistracy as that no one could transcend their legal limits without being effectually checked and restrained by the others." - Federalist Papers, No. 58, 1788

"This power over the purse may, in fact, be regarded as the most complete and effectual weapon with which any constitution can arm the immediate representatives of the people, for obtaining a redress of every grievance, and for carrying into effect every just and salutary measure." - Federalist Papers, No. 58, 1788

"The propensity of all single and numerous assemblies (is) to yield to the impulse of sudden and violent passions, and to be seduced by factious leaders into intemperate and pernicious resolutions." - Federalist Papers, No. 62, February 27, 1788

"Every new regulation concerning commerce or revenue; or in any manner affecting the value of the different species of property, presents a new harvest to those who watch the change and can trace its consequences; a harvest reared not by themselves but by the toils and cares of the great body of their fellow citizens. This is a state of things in which it may be said with some truth that laws are made for the few not for the many." - Federalist Papers, No. 62, February 27, 1788

"It will be of little avail to the people that the laws are made by men of their own choice, if the laws be so voluminous that they cannot be read, or so incoherent that they cannot be understood; if they be repealed or revised before they are promulgated, or undergo such incessant changes that no man who knows what the law is today can guess what it will be tomorrow." - Federalist Papers, No. 62, February 27, 1788

Note particularly the following words of wisdom from Federalist No. 63, and take heart. You are doing what you were meant to do when you speak out on intrusions on your liberty.  According to Madison:

"As the cool and deliberate sense of the community ought, in all governments, and actually will, in all free governments, ultimately prevail over the views of its rulers; so there are particular moments in public affairs when the people, stimulated by some irregular passion, or some illicit advantage, or misled by the artful misrepresentations of interested men, may call for measures which they themselves will afterwards be the most ready to lament and condemn. In these critical moments, how salutary will be the interference of some temperate and respectable body of citizens, in order to check the misguided career, and to suspend the blow meditated by the people against themselves, until reason, justice, and truth can regain their authority over the public mind?" - Federalist Papers, No. 63, 1788

  Constitution deliberately decided that it was not!

34 posted on 02/08/2018 12:01:28 PM PST by loveliberty2
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To: Lazamataz

What a disgusting man he is.


35 posted on 02/08/2018 12:03:37 PM PST by laplata (Liberals/Progressives have diseased minds.)
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To: Lazamataz

The fact that The WP is using GW to support the lefts narrative is sure proof of who GW really is.


36 posted on 02/08/2018 12:05:58 PM PST by Revel
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To: Lazamataz

I hear you. We erred on Bush.

What bothers me is that Trump is calling the “Russia, Russia, Russia” thing a hoax, but only in regard to himself
concerning the collusion charge lodged against him and the ridiculous dossier.

What happened to the report that Russia pulled off a simple *phishing* attempt directed to John Podesta’s computer, and he FELL for it. Podesta let them in, on the advice of his IT guy.

Why did that phishing fact get lost and turned instead into a “hacking” event, as if Podesta didn’t open the dang door himself. Being hacked is quite different, but I suppose it serves to makes him seem the helpless victim. He was not helpless. He was duped.


37 posted on 02/08/2018 12:06:11 PM PST by RitaOK (n)
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To: loveliberty2

All the erudite yack in the world can’t escape the ultimate “We The People.” Any buffer can be undone by “We The People” whether formally or informally.


38 posted on 02/08/2018 12:07:19 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (Tryin' hard to win the No-Bull Prize.)
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To: Lazamataz

39 posted on 02/08/2018 12:07:37 PM PST by Boogieman
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To: Lazamataz

Like Russians never interfered before? Come on! It is their job and not against our law unless Americans participate. Like we don’t try to influence outcomes in other nations? Give me a f’n break!


40 posted on 02/08/2018 12:08:58 PM PST by New Jersey Realist ( (Be Nice To Your Kids. They Will Pick Out Your Nursing Home))
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