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Posted on 02/06/2018 7:41:13 AM PST by deplorableindc
An attorney selected to advise the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court says he might have recommended against surveilling former Trump campaign adviser Carter Page. But he was never asked for an opinion.
John Cline was one of the first people designated by the shadowy court’s judges as eligible to advise them on privacy and other intelligence collection issues, but he was not consulted on the Page case — or any other — during his two years on the amici curiae roster.
Cline served as an on-call expert alongside five others when the FBI and Justice Department sought a warrant to spy on Page, a businessman who had worked in Russia, on Oct. 21, 2016. The government received the warrant the same day, and later three 90-day renewals.
(Excerpt) Read more at washingtonexaminer.com ...
Might have. Could have. Would have.
The FISA courts are out of control, with no oversight.
No one really knows who provides oversight.
When u don’t know who provides oversight,
that is a very big problem.
All agents, prosecutors, judges, DOJ employees and anybody else who signed off on this should be fired and or prosecuted.
They all have dirty hands.
I have believed for awhile now too much care has been taken keeping the FISA judge’s nose clean by way too many extended hankies.
Perhaps we should look at the FISA court judge as an accomplice in this as well. The first attempt to gain a FISA warrant having been refused as there just wasn’t enough presented to cover his/her (the judges) butt, thus the refusal.
The second attempt would have been under pressure from powerful players, thus almost any excuse to issue the warrant would have been considered.
John Clone Should be on unemployment for his lackadaisical attitude relating to doing his job.
It’s irrelevant what this attorney has to say since FISA courts grant warrants to 99% of the applicants. If the FBI is turned away for insufficient evidence, they apparently manufacture what they need and return to court. The biggest question not asked yet is how often an application is rejected, only to be approved when additional ‘evidence’ is presented.
In November 2002, the FBI implemented a special FISA Unit with a unit chief and six staffers, and installed an automated tracking system that connects field offices, headquarters, the National Security Law Branch and the Office of Intelligence, allowing participants to track the process during each stage.
Starting March 1, 2003, the FBI required field offices to confirm they’ve verified the accuracy of facts presented to the court through the case agent, the field office’s Chief Division Counsel and the Special Agent in Charge.
All of this information was provided to Congress in 2003. The FBI director at the time also ordered that any issue as to whether a FISA application was factually sufficient was to be brought to his attention. Personally.
Do we know who the other five judges were?
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I am beginning to get suspicious of the judges. 10 of the 11 are Obama appointees. I believe Judge Roberts appointed them to the FISC .... Roberts, more than likely, was being blackmailed by Obama & perhaps even surveilled (IMO).
Also, if THIS is true, it totally exposes the FBI for what they were - ACTIVISTS trying to get Hillary elected & Trump defeated/removed from office ....
In March 2016 Carter Page Was an FBI Employee – In October 2016 FBI Told FISA Court He’s a Spy…
From link:
Carter Page was an FBI Under-Cover Employee in 2013, and remained the primary FBI witness through May of 2016 throughout the case.
If Carter Page was working as a UCE (FBI undercover employee), responsible for the bust of a high level Russian agent in 2013 -and remained a UCE- throughout the court case UP TO May of 2016, how is it possible that on October 21st 2016 Carter Page is put under a FISA Title 1 surveillance warrant as an alleged Russian agent?
Conclusion: He wasn’t. The DOJ National Security Division and the FBI Counterintelligence Division, knew he wasn’t. The DOJ-NSD and FBI flat-out LIED.
The entire FISA Title I surveillance authority over Carter Page was cover, most likely retroactive cover, for the DOJ and FBI conducting surveillance on the Trump campaign.
The DOJ-National Security Division and FBI Counterintelligence Unit didn’t care about Page because to them he was a useful tool. It wasn’t Page they needed, per se’, they just needed someone, anyone, who had contact with the Trump campaign that they could apply the label “foreign agent” upon. The DOJ/FBI just needed someone they could position to gain the FISA “Title I” surveillance approval that would retroactively make all prior campaign surveillance legal. Who Carter Page was simply checked the right boxes.
Page wasn’t a “plant”, or a “participant”, he was a useful body upon which they could attach a label to justify their surveillance and monitoring. Nothing more.
Clear enough?
Carter Page testified to the House Intelligence Committee that DOJ-FBI officials leaked his identity, his role in the Buryakov case, to the media. This is secondary and direct confirmation from Page himself that he was indeed the FBI UCE-1
Maybe, and I say “maybe” here, the Judge is waiting to see what falls out. I think the judge has continuing jurisdiction to review events and orders in his court if they were obtained wrongly or by fraud. If I were the judge and actually misled, I would be p.o.’d, but currently lying low.
There is a wide variety of tools in this judge’s arsenal. even if I was an Obama appointee, I would be ready to use them if nothing else comes of the investigations. Judges, especially liberal ones, grow more independent and cantankerous the longer they wear the black robe. This is more true of “appointed for life, by God” Federal judges.
Lies by omission are lies
Tell the truth
The WHOLE truth
And nothing BUT the truth
Hitlery Rotten Clinton lied as well when she testified before congress claiming to not remember names and then offering up a wealth of explanations when the names were revealed by those asking questions.
Yep prosecute and work your way up the chain of command.
One question: were the Dems allowed to ‘judge shop’ in regards to their requests for surveillance?
Yes, we do.
He’s not supposed to wait to be asked... He’s supposed to be presenting ONLY good info.
The first to try to save himself. Wise decision. Many others should follow and comply or prepare to be on the wrong side of Congress.
Hillary wanted to be an astronaut. When asked who her favorite astronaut role model was, she said "Dr. Zachary Smith".
Who advocates for the target?
He was not asked for a reason - the FISA court is partisan and wanted to authorized the illegal monitoring.
And now we’re beginning to see the problems inherent in “secret courts”. Secret courts are un-American and should be abolished.
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