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The Dems want everything for free. Trumps is willing to gve them a lot, but is smart enough to want something in return: Build the wall.

Those who are here, OK, but no more.

1 posted on 01/25/2018 2:39:42 PM PST by Innovative
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"Those who are here, OK, but no more."

I disagree. No reward for breaking the law. Plus, these people deserve justice and fairness, and what's fair about punisging or rewardingbbased solely on when one broke the law? Nope, the only fair thing is to sent them all back.

2 posted on 01/25/2018 2:45:43 PM PST by Wyrd bið ful aræd (Flag burners can go screw -- I'm mighty PROUD of that ragged old flag)
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I am fine with DACA for wall + no lottery + ending chain + more deports.

But VERIFY EVERY SINGLE DACA. At least 40% of them came as ADULTS and should be deported unless they can PROVE otherwise.

3 posted on 01/25/2018 2:56:06 PM PST by montag813
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I knew Kelly had a hand in this but Miller supports it???


4 posted on 01/25/2018 2:58:30 PM PST by Jonny7797
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....for as many as 1.8 million young, undocumented immigrants


I hope the fine print is such that only a small fraction of these end up getting citizenship.


6 posted on 01/25/2018 3:02:36 PM PST by rbg81 (Truth is stranger than fiction)
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I’m sure we can believe the NY Times on this topic. Why would they want to misrepresent the President’s position?


7 posted on 01/25/2018 3:04:22 PM PST by Interesting Times (WinterSoldier.com. SwiftVets.com. ToSetTheRecordStraight.com.)
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The DACA amnesty cave is very bad. By itself, it will increase the number of anti-American voters.

So it has to be more than offset by an end in chain migration from other Democrat-voter source cultures.

The visa lottery is small change, about 50,000 per year out of a million and half migrants. The worst thing about it is that it brings in a lot of Muslims.

The main thing is chain migration of socialism-friendly voters, primarily Hispanic. That’s the main poison killing our homeland. Seriously reduce that, and the homeland might survive.


8 posted on 01/25/2018 3:06:39 PM PST by Dagnabitt
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Did u see the numbers?

1.8 million.

If true, this is an outrage.
800,000 is bad enough.
1.8 million is insane.
This will not go over well.


11 posted on 01/25/2018 3:17:12 PM PST by tennmountainman ("Prophet Mountainman" Predicter Of All Things RINO...for a small fee.)
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.. rid the country of  immigrants  INVADERS and slam shut the nation’s borders

             

12 posted on 01/25/2018 3:20:38 PM PST by tomkat (bot for hire .. please outbid those cheap assed Russians)
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They all want to come here. Image and video hosting by TinyPic
19 posted on 01/25/2018 3:45:37 PM PST by tumblindice (America's founding fathers: all white armed conservatives)
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Dims got their foot in Trump’s door and just like the snakes they are it will only be a matter of time before they have infected the entire room.


20 posted on 01/25/2018 3:45:57 PM PST by WeWaWes (When I look in the mirror I see an elephant--a bad ass elephant)
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This is Trump bargaining. It’s the art of negotiation. He is giving them more than they asked for but in return, he is asking for something he knows they won’t give. That way he doesn’t have to give it and he wins the argument by being able to tell the country “I tried”


21 posted on 01/25/2018 3:47:56 PM PST by NELSON111
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Problem with the Trump/Miller critics is they have zero idea how to get 10m or so illegals out of the country without a wall. The fact is we need self-deportation and E-Verify will help, so that should be added to the list. But that's not going to get the lawn mowing guy to leave. Instead we build a wall and get no new lawn mowing guys.

I suppose some have in mind sending buses to the barrio and telling them to get in. Ridiculously expensive and will be useless without a wall.

24 posted on 01/25/2018 3:49:55 PM PST by palmer (...if we do not have strong families and strong values, then we will be weak and we will not survive)
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It was immediately rejected by Democrats, pro-immigration activists and some Republicans,

So go a head and vote against it, I double dog dare you to vote against DACA and the kids.

If we pass this with a large majority of reps voting for it and a sizable majority of dems opposing it, it will completely destroy the notion that the dems support the immigrant community. The dems will pay a heavy price at the voting both. The reps will crow that they helped the DACA the dems would not.

But that pails in comparison to the damage they will inflect on themselves if DACA actually ends and DACA "kids" start being removed when the dems had a chance to stop it.

Tough choice you got their dems.

Game set match.

25 posted on 01/25/2018 3:51:33 PM PST by usurper ( version)
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... a heartless attempt to rid the country of immigrants...

A sincere attempt to rid the country of illegal aliens.


27 posted on 01/25/2018 3:52:35 PM PST by Sasparilla ( I'm Not Tired of Winning.)
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I wasn’t aware that the demonrats are in control of either the house or senate...

2 things that need to be done to save the patient called America.

‘Immigration reform’ and the restoration of the rule of law...treason trials and mass hangings on the national mall.

“Immigration reform”:

Build the wall, end chain migration, end anchor baby citizenship, deport 40 plus million illegal aliens and their anchor baby demon spawn and then have a 25-50 year moratorium on ALL immigration.

Only then will America have a chance at survival. Have a chance against the enemy within—the tyrannical anti-American crime syndicate known as the demoncrat party.


31 posted on 01/25/2018 4:02:58 PM PST by Electric Graffiti (Obama voters killed America...Treat them accordingly.)
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Bullcrap. Any “concession can and will be undone by the next Congress. Surreptitious “citizenship” will remain. America WILL die a slow, painful death if this treasonous proposal passes.


32 posted on 01/25/2018 4:05:04 PM PST by alstewartfan (Lines of coffee cups on parade. Soldiers for keeping the night away. Al Stewart in Delia's Gone)
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Trump the deal-maker in action: Trump proposes something very reasonable in terms of give-and-take, something that will appear VERY reasonable to the vast majority of regular folks, knowing damn good and well that the Dems will reject it, and thereby give Trump the high moral ground and allow him to tar the Dems as unreasonable, uncaring, and obstructionistic.

This is brilliant! Simply brilliant!

It really doesn’t get any better that this ...


42 posted on 01/25/2018 4:19:44 PM PST by catnipman ( Cat Nipman: Vote Republican in 2012 and only be called racist one more time!)
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I agree.


43 posted on 01/25/2018 4:19:53 PM PST by Diggity
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If they have felonies, they should be ineligible for any deal.


45 posted on 01/25/2018 4:20:29 PM PST by yuleeyahoo (Those are my principles, and if you do not like them...well I have others. - Groucho Marx)
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47 posted on 01/25/2018 4:22:03 PM PST by PapaBear3625 (Big governent is attractive to those who think that THEY will be in control of it.)
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