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Yes, global warming will be bad. But these scientists say it won’t reach the worst-case scenario
Washington Post ^ | January 17, 2018 | By Chris Mooney

Posted on 01/17/2018 11:58:06 AM PST by Oldeconomybuyer

Climate scientists on Wednesday suggested that they may be able to rule out some of the most dire scenarios of what would happen if greenhouse gas levels in the atmosphere were to double.

Unfortunately, the same scientists say the best-case scenarios are also probably unrealistic.

How a doubling of atmospheric greenhouse gases would affect the climate is of tremendous importance, as humans are running out of time to avoid that outcome. With current atmospheric concentrations at 405 parts per million, as opposed to about 280 parts per million before the dawn of the industrial era, the planet is already about halfway there.

Recently, however, different teams of scientists have hit upon an approach to try to narrow the results — trying to find an “emerging constraint” on what the possible future outcome could be by comparing high-powered climate change models, which predict the future, with currently observed elements of present climate.

“You find something in the models which is well correlated to future response and can potentially be observed in the real world,” Ben Sanderson, a climate expert at the National Center for Atmospheric Research, said of the approach. Sanderson was not involved in the current study.

It all suggests that scientists have plenty more work to do in figuring out a better estimate of the climate sensitivity. Their best answer will be watched closely when it arrives in the form of the next report of the United Nations’ Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change, expected in 2021.

“If this study is proved correct, it wouldn’t change our best guess of what the future would look like under climate change — but it would make the worst-case scenario slightly less catastrophic,” Sanderson said.

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KEYWORDS: fakescience; globalwarming; goebbelswarming; gorebullwarming; hoax; journalism; propaganda
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1 posted on 01/17/2018 11:58:06 AM PST by Oldeconomybuyer
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

So global warming has become climate change and carbon dioxide is no greenhouse gas.


2 posted on 01/17/2018 12:02:11 PM PST by webheart (Grammar police on the scene.)
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To: webheart

I meant carbon dioxide is now greenhouse gas.


3 posted on 01/17/2018 12:03:53 PM PST by webheart (Grammar police on the scene.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

No, of course Earth will not become like Venus with 800F degree surface temperature; it will only reach 550F on a hot summer’s afternoon ... chill out climate freaks, please.


4 posted on 01/17/2018 12:04:11 PM PST by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now it is your turn ...)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

CO2 is plant food.
The result of higher CO2 is more plants.
The earth is greening up.

CO2 has nothing to do with temperature.
That is determined by the source of all heat on earth.
We could not make enough CO2 to keep from freezing if the Sun cycles down for another Ice Age.


5 posted on 01/17/2018 12:05:10 PM PST by Lurkinanloomin (Natural Born Citizen Means Born Here of Citizen Parents-Know Islam, No Peace-No Islam, Know Peace)
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To: Lurkinanloomin

280 parts per million before the dawn of the industrial era
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Below 180 parts per million mass extinction begins.


6 posted on 01/17/2018 12:07:05 PM PST by Lurkinanloomin (Natural Born Citizen Means Born Here of Citizen Parents-Know Islam, No Peace-No Islam, Know Peace)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
   Where to go if you need to unload about global warming

7 posted on 01/17/2018 12:08:16 PM PST by DoughtyOne (A/O 01/12/18 DJIA business close 25,803.19, a 44.25% increase over the morning of 11/07/16.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Don’t eat a serving of table salt equal to your bodyweight everyday either.the models with rats don’t work out so good.


8 posted on 01/17/2018 12:11:34 PM PST by a fool in paradise (Did Barack Obama denounce Communism and dictatorships when he visited Cuba as a puppet of the State?)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Why won’t the peasants obey us when we try to herd them in the name of “science?”


9 posted on 01/17/2018 12:11:41 PM PST by E. Pluribus Unum (<img src="http://i.imgur.com/WukZwJP.gif" width=800>)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Sounds like they’re starting to waffle a bit.


10 posted on 01/17/2018 12:11:54 PM PST by samtheman (Liberalism is a mental disease.)
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To: samtheman

Mmmmmm. Waffles!


11 posted on 01/17/2018 12:15:55 PM PST by rjsimmon (The Tree of Liberty Thirsts)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

We can re-educate most of them, but we’ll have to eliminate 20-25M of them. Billy Ayers, post-Days of Rage tactical meeting, Evanston, IL, 10/69.


12 posted on 01/17/2018 12:16:23 PM PST by kallisti (Studies show climate change is primarily caused by white toxic masculinity)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Chris Mooney is a fraud.

There are plenty of actual scientists whose research has already shown that current estimates of the climate’s sensitivity to increasing atmospheric CO2 concentration is grossly exaggerated, and that a result, the alarmist claims that ‘global warming will be bad’ are flatly wrong.

But Mooney discounts those reports because he would prefer to highlight a group whose message is that ‘Yes, global warming will be bad. But these scientists say it won’t reach the worst-case scenario’ rather than those whose message is that global warming will not be ‘bad’.

The ‘worst-case’ scenario has always been garbage and any scientist pimping the ‘worst-case’ scenario as being at all likely has been a liar and a fraud. But to a committed leftist ‘believer’ like Mooney, saying that it is not a crisis is tantamount to heresy.


13 posted on 01/17/2018 12:16:40 PM PST by Zeppo ("Happy Pony is on - and I'm NOT missing Happy Pony")
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To: Red Badger

Ping.


14 posted on 01/17/2018 12:21:08 PM PST by Army Air Corps (Four Fried Chickens and a Coke)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Global Warming is red
Planet Earth is blue
Please pardon
The carbon footprint
Of my New Michigan igloo


15 posted on 01/17/2018 12:21:09 PM PST by equaviator (There's nothing like the universe to bring you down to earth.)
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To: kallisti

Why is he still alive?


16 posted on 01/17/2018 12:27:28 PM PST by E. Pluribus Unum (<img src="http://i.imgur.com/WukZwJP.gif" width=800>)
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To: Lurkinanloomin

“Look at Mother Nature on the run in the 1970s.”

Neil Young, “Scientist”


17 posted on 01/17/2018 12:28:10 PM PST by DennisR
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Global Warming causes flu epidemics.


18 posted on 01/17/2018 12:30:04 PM PST by bunkerhill7 ((((("The Second Amendment has no limits on firepower"-NY State Senator Kathleen A. Marchione.")))))))
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To: Lurkinanloomin
Excellent point. You got me curious, so I looked that up and found: What's the (or some of the) minimum(s) amount of atmospheric carbon dioxide needed by plants?

The person who answered the question quoted a scientific paper that said probably around 170 ppm.

Another person responded "Prior to this Ice Age cycle that started about 3 1/2 million years ago the PPM Norm was between 900 and 1,120 ppm."

How did the world survive at those CO2 levels? Impossible.

19 posted on 01/17/2018 12:55:46 PM PST by ProtectOurFreedom
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Why won’t the peasants obey us when we try to herd them in the name of “science?”


exactly


20 posted on 01/17/2018 1:18:08 PM PST by samtheman (Liberalism is a mental disease.)
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