Posted on 01/14/2018 9:39:30 PM PST by bitt
Consider this an addendum “break out” thread, a reference of sorts, to help prepare people for the upcoming week and discussions about FISA-702.
We’ll break down the term: “ FISA-702(16)(17) ” into the elements that will help you make sense of this story in the future.
FISA – Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act 702 – An American caught up in the process of Foreign Surveillance (16) – A search query based on “TO” and/or “FROM” (17) – A search query based on “ABOUT” Again, to repeat, there are differing FISA rules for use of the NSA or FBI database depending on the originating intelligence compartment.
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I watched the hearing with Adm Rogers and they were talking about this...this article though made sense ....thanks for explaining the terms.
Could Simpson and Ohr (Russia experts with contacts in Russia) sent their Russian contacts to target Trump team members? Then GPS as FISA contractors knew what 702 targets to request? When Rogers blew the whistle they then tried for a direct warrant for “cover”.
Good breakdown of the FISA and how it was abused in a collective effort to take Trump out. Gotta love Sundance.
Had they succeeded, we would have a Constitutional crisis of epic proportion.
Thank you for posting.
The obvious point is that to Obama, Lynch, and Comey, stopping the election of Donald Trump to the presidency was clearly "vital to national security". Any inquiry into the data base, in their twisted minds, would be allowed - even after he was actually elected.
Incredible.
Obama and Hillary Clinton and their deep state cronies attempted to overturn much of Article II. There are few higher crimes when those charged with enforcing the laws against hostile foreign governments turn their powers inward on the sovereign people.
The big fear of Anti-Federalists was that a standing army, which is designed to defend the nation from foreign threats, would be turned inward for domestic political purposes by a rogue President.
Some 230 years later, we needn’t fear troops quartered in our homes but the threat is the same when a President betrays his trust and oath of office.
I hope the congressional pubbies, President Trump and Jeff Sessions have the stomach to do what must be done: be willing to send a dozen or so rats, three or four of which are black, to prison.
looks like that is what happened!!
. . . November 2015 through April 2016 FISA-702(17) “About Queries”, returns from searches, were identified by NSA Director Admiral Mike Rogers, being conducted by the intelligence community (FBI), by “contractors” and “individuals” for reasons that:Conclusion:
- were unauthorized;
- were directly related to U.S. persons;
- and had nothing to do with National Security;
- and were conducted by people who did not request FISA Court Approval.
Director Mike Rogers discovered FBI contractors doing FISA-702 “About Searches” that resulted in returns providing information on Americans. Those results were passed on to people outside government . . .
All research indicates the intelligence information the DOJ and FBI collected via their FISA-702 queries, combined with the intelligence Fusion GPS created in their earlier use of contractor access to FISA-702(17) “about queries”, was the intelligence data manipulated by Nellie Ohr, and laundered by Christopher Steele for use in creating “The Russian Dossier”.. . . so the long and short of it is that Fusion GPS was not (or not only) paid by Hillary (and by her wholly-owned subsidiary, the DNC) to legally snoop about in Russia for snippets of truth around which to weave the “Russian Dossier,” Fusion GPS was operating as a contractor to the FBI and, in that capacity, making use of the fruits of an intrusive, illegal and unconstitutional - not to mention expensive - search directed at mooting the right of Trump and his supporters to a fair election contest.
Some 230 years later, we needn’t fear troops quartered in our homes but the threat is the same when a President betrays his trust and oath of office.
I agree that there can be a difference between a 'good' and a 'bad' President; however, would suggest that what actually limits Government and protects individuals' God-given rights is not the ethics and or morals of any one or group of elected or unelected government officials. What limits government is limited powers, checks and balances, and the rule of law.
In my opinion, regarding what is being exposed now, Obama circumvented limited powers, checks and balances, and the rule of law BECAUSE limited powers, checks and balances, and the rule of law have been slowly eroded over time by the deep state.
For example, The National Security Agency (NSA) is a national-level intelligence agency of the United States Department of Defense. I would suggest that the NSA would never have been originally chartered if its mission was to spy on and collect information about U.S. citizens. In essence, via the NSA, the Military is being used against Americans -let that sink in... Let me add that Congress is letting this happen and the Judiciary as yet has done nothing to 'check' the rogue violation of individuals' God-given rights this unwarranted data collection represents...
Some clauses of the Constitution are observed, while most are not. Those in force are those that established the three branches, elections, Washington DC as the seat of government, presidential vetoes, etc. I regard these as ‘hard’ clauses, those that are observed and unabused.
On the other hand, most clauses in our Constitution are ‘soft’ in nature, and comprise what James Madison referred to as mere parchment barriers. For instance, soft clauses are among the myriad that deal with regulation of commerce, taxation, free speech rights and the placement of all legislative powers in congress. These, the soft clauses, are disregarded, if not inverted, to serve purposes opposite of their clear intent.
On closer inspection, we’ll find that hard Constitutional clauses typically have an institution or an interest group to defend them. Otherwise, and without defense, they are sure to fall into the soft category.
To keep the entirety of our Constitution in force necessitates institutions designed for the continued defense of hard clauses and renewed defense of soft clauses. For instance, the scotus’ infamous 1942 Wickard v. Filburn opinion regarding interstate commerce did enormous and continuing damage to state sovereignty. Despite the clear wording of the commerce clause and the Tenth Amendment, Wickard or a similar ruling was an eventual certainty since the states had not been in the senate to defend their interests since 1913. A senate of the states had previously ensured the commerce clause remained in the hard clause category. The 17th Amendment doomed many previously hard clauses into soft clause irrelevance. There are other examples.
To the extent that the Second Amendment is intact is not due to its enumeration in the Bill of Rights. The 2A remains in force due to attentive citizen groups who stand ready to render electoral hell on politicians who waver on this fundamental right.
It is only by making power a check on power that liberty may be protected from the ravages of time.
To the extent that the Second Amendment is intact is not due to its enumeration in the Bill of Rights. The 2A remains in force due to attentive citizen groups who stand ready to render electoral hell on politicians who waver on this fundamental right.
It is only by making power a check on power that liberty may be protected from the ravages of time.
Agree with your thoughtful well reasoned post. In my humble opinion, Trump, if successful, will at best claw back and maintain individual liberties at a level seen prior to the 8 year Obama regime.
Hopefully, the torch will be passed to another capable Patriot that can carry on the fight to drain the swamp further and limit government.
Regardless elected officials and bureaucracy, it is my hope the judges Trump appoints will work to reverse the Leftist agenda that has subordinated self-evident truths and right reason necessarily sacrificing individual liberties at the moral relative altar of collectivism, equivocation and diversity...
I agree thoroughly and hope your hopes (which I share) come true. They will delay the arrival of hard tyranny.
Yet, for his reforms to have a chance to last beyond him requires institutional reforms beginning with repeal of the 17A.
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