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The GOP Can't Get Burnt on DACA Deal
Townhall.com ^ | Jan 13, 2018 | Michael Reagan

Posted on 01/13/2018 9:04:59 PM PST by Oshkalaboomboom

Everyone knows something has to be done for America's DACA kids.

Everyone with a good heart or a working brain knows it's not their fault their parents sneaked them into the country when they were kids under 16.

It's true that by law they are illegal immigrants.

But most DACA kids have grown up to become good, law-abiding Americans.

They've gone to school here. They've worked and paid taxes here. They've even served in our military.

Everyone except a few people on the far fringe knows it'd be wrong to deport these 800,000 so-called "Dreamers" -- now or in the future.

As we saw in Washington this week, DACA kids have become a bargaining chip for President Trump in his efforts to get Congress to build a border wall and reform immigration policy.

President Obama created America's DACA kids by executive order in 2012 with his Deferred Action for Child Arrivals program, which delayed the deportation of "Dreamers" who signed up for it for two years.

President Trump has already announced his administration's plans to phase out DACA, though this week a federal judge temporarily blocked that executive decision until a bunch of lawsuits challenging it are settled.

Trump and his Republican allies say they want to extend protections for the "Dreamers" as part of a larger legislative bill that also funds the wall and ends chain immigration.

Democrats in Congress say to Trump, "OK, but extend DACA's protections first, then we'll deal with the border wall and other stuff later."

But already it's a perfect example of how bad the Republicans are at educating the public about what they do in Washington and why they do it the way they do.

In this case, Republicans need to explain to the country why they are insisting on Congress doing DACA and immigration reform together.

The reason is because Republicans remember how badly they were burned by Democrats in 1986, after my father signed the Immigration Reform and Control Act, aka the Simpson-Mazzoli Act.

Part one of Simpson-Mazzoli allowed 3 million illegal immigrants to have a pathway to citizenship. That's the only part of the bill people remember today - the so-called "Reagan Amnesty."

But nearly everyone - particularly the mainstream liberal media that thinks American political history started when they woke up this morning - forgets about the second part.

Part 2 of Simpson-Mazzoli was an agreement to secure the southern border - which was never implemented in 1986 or to this day.

That's the memory Republicans are still haunted by today. They have good reason to not trust Democrats to keep their word on border security if they negotiate a two-step DACA-immigration deal.

Now it's up to the president, the speaker of the House and every important Republican in Washington to explain to the public why it's so important for DACA and border security to be done together.

The mainstream media will never fairly or fully explain the Republicans' position on their own, but if President Trump starts talking and tweeting about it, they'll have to.

If Trump can bring enough attention to the GOP side of the immigration debate, a win-win bipartisan deal might be possible.

The Republicans will have to cave on DACA and the Democrats will have to cave on the border wall.

President Trump has already said he'll be willing to take the political hit to get an immigration reform deal done. Let him.

He doesn't care anyway. He can say or do just about anything.

The worst that can happen to him is that in 2020 he has to go back to being a billionaire.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Editorial; Foreign Affairs; Government; Mexico; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 115th; 2018issues; aliens; amnesty; amnestypimps; daca; dreamers; gopestablishment; illegals; michaelreagan; moron; nevertrump; reagan4amnesty; rinos; stillnevertrumping; trumpillegals
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To: Oshkalaboomboom

If they were deported, how many would go though the Merit Process to come back? Those are the only ones I would want back.


41 posted on 01/14/2018 3:36:54 AM PST by Dixie Yooper (Ephesians 6:11)
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To: MIchaelTArchangel

I have a compromise: any DACA who is productively employed goes to the bottom of the list for deportation. Any DACA with any criminal record, goes.


42 posted on 01/14/2018 3:55:44 AM PST by SauronOfMordor (Socialists want YOUR wealth redistributed, never THEIRS!)
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To: Oshkalaboomboom

Sorry Michael....I really would like the ILLEGAL Scheming Parents take their ILLEGAL Dreaming kids BACK HOME WHERE THEY CAME FROM!


43 posted on 01/14/2018 4:16:19 AM PST by Ann Archy (Abortion....... The HUMAN Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: Oshkalaboomboom
"Kids."

Some of these "kids" are in their 40s.

And everyone of these people, whatever their age - has a country!

They should go back to it.

44 posted on 01/14/2018 4:40:41 AM PST by SkyPilot ("I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me." John 14:6)
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To: MIchaelTArchangel

Send the American Educated Dreamers home to improve their native countries. They never applied for Citizenship nor intended to.

My paternal grandparents were legal immigrants who came from Italy, embraced America and became naturalized Citizens; not Illegal Aliens who Illegally crossed our borders, and the MSM/Dems new use of the word Migrant is false and misleading these people are Illegal Invaders not interested in becoming part of America and our society, not migrants or Immigrants. They want to maintain their country’s socialist, communistic culture.


45 posted on 01/14/2018 4:47:31 AM PST by GailA (Ret. SCPO wife: suck it up buttercups it's President Donald Trump!)
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To: Oshkalaboomboom
The GOP Can't Get Burnt on DACA Deal

Can't they?

46 posted on 01/14/2018 4:49:09 AM PST by DoodleDawg
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To: Oshkalaboomboom
But most DACA kids have grown up to become good, law-abiding Americans

Where's the data?

47 posted on 01/14/2018 4:52:18 AM PST by Jim Noble (Single payer is coming. Which kind do you like?)
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To: Oshkalaboomboom

A complete and total immigration policy MUST be enacted. This piece by piece crap has continued far too long.


48 posted on 01/14/2018 5:00:45 AM PST by New Jersey Realist ( (Be Nice To Your Kids. They Will Pick Out Your Nursing Home))
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To: nopardons
Michael Reagan is a moron.

I agree. Sounds like he's a big fan of MS-13.

49 posted on 01/14/2018 5:12:43 AM PST by FlingWingFlyer (2017 - The year the liberals' "sexual revolution" strikes back!)
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To: MIchaelTArchangel

I reject the premise that sending people back to their home countries is unjust, immoral or constitutes punishment.

Dear President Trump, keep your promise. Send them home.


50 posted on 01/14/2018 5:15:29 AM PST by Jacquerie (ArticleVBlog.com)
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To: Oshkalaboomboom

President Trump is all about keeping his promises. He is the one with all the leverage. The dems painted themselves into a corner with 20% of their vote. Tick-Tock the deportation clock is ticking.

After name calling; the number one tactic of the dems is to try to drive a wedge between the Republican and their base. Don’t be fooled by any fake news or fake allegations. Or fake stories about how President Trump is going soft or buckling under. Those are classic wedge tactics. Stay strong and really piss off the dems and their media bullies.


51 posted on 01/14/2018 5:43:14 AM PST by Revolutionary ("Praise the Lord and Pass the Ammunition!")
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To: Oshkalaboomboom

President Trump has already said he’ll be willing to take the political hit to get an immigration reform deal done. Let him.

He doesn’t care anyway. He can say or do just about anything.

The worst that can happen to him is that in 2020 he has to go back to being a billionaire.

...

Just when I thought MR was sane again, he comes out with this snark.


52 posted on 01/14/2018 5:49:12 AM PST by Moonman62 (Make America Great Again!)
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To: Oshkalaboomboom

Looks like a judge did so all by themselves. Ugh!


53 posted on 01/14/2018 5:54:09 AM PST by napscoordinator (Trump/Hunter, jr for President/Vice President 2016)
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To: Oshkalaboomboom

>>> Everyone except a few people on the far fringe knows it’d be wrong to deport these 800,000 so-called “Dreamers”. <<<

Guess I’m “on the far fringe”. 800,000 is roughly the population on North Dakota, then add chain migration (7X) from these anchors and it’s amnesty for 5,600,000 which is the population of Colorado. Call me deplorable, but they are all deportable. Immediately, and with their illegal parents.


54 posted on 01/14/2018 6:06:01 AM PST by Oldeconomybuyer (The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.)
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To: Oshkalaboomboom

Clearly this is Trump’s Read my lips moment. We are watching.


55 posted on 01/14/2018 6:07:45 AM PST by Uncle Sam 911
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To: Oshkalaboomboom

“Everyone knows something has to be done for America’s DACA kids. Everyone with a good heart or a working brain knows it’s not their fault their parents sneaked them into the country when they were kids under 16.”

Let us expand that reasoning:

Everyone knows something has to be done for the kids of America’s bank robbers. Everyone with a good heart or a working brain knows it’s not their fault their parents were robbing banks when they were kids under 16. Let them keep the money.


56 posted on 01/14/2018 6:16:37 AM PST by sergeantdave (Teach a man to fish and he'll steal your gear and sell it)
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To: Oshkalaboomboom

They’ve even served in our military.
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That’s a lie.
It is illegal for illegal aliens to enlist.


57 posted on 01/14/2018 6:55:33 AM PST by Lurkinanloomin (Natural Born Citizen Means Born Here of Citizen Parents-Know Islam, No Peace-No Islam, Know Peace)
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To: Oshkalaboomboom
I'm generally willing to extend the DACA waivers to Dreamers, but only to Dreamers living the dream.

We are told by Democrats that Dreamers are educated people who have attended American schools, are hard working and who are model citizens who are big win for our country.

OK

Normalize the status of the 800,000 or so DACA enrollees that qualify

Highly educated - at least a high school diploma from US School.

Can speak English and can pass basic skills evaluation (a real test, not some multiple choice test that everyone has a cheat sheet. This will be expensive so they can pay for the evaluation testing) .

Must attend Americanization and assimilation classes just like legal immigrants do

Can pass a background check to screen for undesirable alien activities, criminality and gang connections

Is and has been been gainfully employed

Is not and has not been receiving government welfare

Not eligible for the IRS earned income credits and other IRS welfare handouts.

No subsidized medical.

58 posted on 01/14/2018 7:54:47 AM PST by rdcbn
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To: Oshkalaboomboom
I'm generally willing to extend the DACA waivers to Dreamers, but only to Dreamers living the dream.

We are told by Democrats that Dreamers are educated people who have attended American schools, are hard working and who are model citizens who are big win for our country.

OK

Normalize the status of the 800,000 or so DACA enrollees that qualify

Highly educated - at least a high school diploma from US School.

Can speak English and can pass basic skills evaluation (a real test, not some multiple choice test that everyone has a cheat sheet. This will be expensive so they can pay for the evaluation testing) .

Must attend Americanization and assimilation classes just like legal immigrants do

Can pass a background check to screen for undesirable alien activities, criminality and gang connections

Is and has been been gainfully employed

Is not and has not been receiving government welfare

Not eligible for the IRS earned income credits and other IRS welfare handouts.

No subsidized medical.

59 posted on 01/14/2018 7:54:47 AM PST by rdcbn
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To: Oshkalaboomboom

This pea brain probably has never even met a DACA let alone have one live next door.


60 posted on 01/14/2018 8:45:11 AM PST by Zathras
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