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Why snow, colder weather conditions don't debunk climate change
AccuWeather ^ | January 5, 2018 | By Ashley Williams

Posted on 01/05/2018 10:12:09 AM PST by Oldeconomybuyer

With a seeming rise in the occurrence of snow days, blizzards and icy travel, the common belief that climate change isn’t happening comes as no surprise.

Scientists stress that locally wintry weather conditions are not indicators of changes in climate, and weather conditions in one part of the world are not representative of what’s occurring globally.

“It’s like saying, 'if everyone around me is wealthy, then poverty is not a problem,'” Peter Frumhoff, the Union of Concerned Scientists science and policy director and chief climate scientist, told CNN.

Scientists point to hard data, including temperature measurements on land and water taken over several decades, which points to an upwards trend in global temperatures, otherwise known as global warming.

“We know that right now, we’ve had three years – 2016, 2015 and 2014 – which were the hottest on record since 1880,” said Brenda Exwanker, climate science director and senior climate scientist for the Union of Concerned Scientists.

NASA reported that 16 of the 17 warmest years on record all happened since 2001.

“Global warming is definitely happening,” Exwanker added.

A popular question seems to be that if global warming is occurring, why do winters seem unusually harsh?

Understanding the distinct difference between weather and climate helps to answer that question.

"Weather refers to the conditions in the atmosphere over a short period of time, whereas climate refers to trends in atmospheric patterns over a much longer timescale," said Dr. John Fleming, a climate scientist with the Center for Biological Diversity.

“This is well expressed as an analogy: weather is like your mood, whereas climate is like your personality,” he said.

“This is why it is possible to have unusually cold weather across much of the U.S. [during] winter, while observing that globally, surface temperatures have been steadily rising,” he added.

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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Aren’t these the same guys that said, 10 years ago, that we would never see snow again in our lifetime? That our children would never see snow??


41 posted on 01/05/2018 11:11:03 AM PST by pfflier
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Peter Frumhoff (policy director and chief climate “scientist” of the “Union of Concerned Scientists”) has an obvious conflict of interest as his job is dependent on there being anthropological climate change. Every word out of his mouth is suspect, and per usual, his argument isn’t cased on science but on obfuscation of science and scientific principle.


42 posted on 01/05/2018 11:13:19 AM PST by Durus (You can avoid reality, but you cannot avoid the consequences of avoiding reality. Ayn Rand)
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To: buffaloguy

I have “Storm” on my iPhone.


43 posted on 01/05/2018 11:22:41 AM PST by Oldeconomybuyer (The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
You see it is like this. All that warm temperature this Summer sucked the cold out of the North Pole in order to cool the temperature down here, but losing all that cold from the North Pole caused it to warm and melt the North Pole.

Simple when you get the facts.

44 posted on 01/05/2018 11:26:32 AM PST by itsahoot (As long as there is money to be divided, there will be division.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

How quaint that their “go-to” sources for climate disinformation are affiliated with the Communist-extremist “Union of Concerned Scientists” organization.

As many have noted, to such shills, cold weather is just weather, while hot weather, droughts, and tropical storms are not weather, rather they are evidence of ‘climate change’.


45 posted on 01/05/2018 11:36:06 AM PST by Zeppo ("Happy Pony is on - and I'm NOT missing Happy Pony")
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
Brenda Exwanker

A transgender?

46 posted on 01/05/2018 11:36:49 AM PST by Robert DeLong
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

It doesn’t debunk it. It doesn’t support it. Weather is weather. It changes. We are having a cold winter here, but nothing like the winter of 78-79.


47 posted on 01/05/2018 11:52:09 AM PST by arthurus (klo)
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To: robroys woman

Didn’t they just rename it “climate change”?

They started with Global Warming and it will always be Global Warming no matter how many times they change the name ,LOL


48 posted on 01/05/2018 11:53:13 AM PST by butlerweave
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Accuweather missed the high temperature here one day last week by twenty degrees. Just two days out. But hey, weather is hard to predict. Climate on the other hand is easy peasy.


49 posted on 01/05/2018 11:59:16 AM PST by justa-hairyape (The user name is sarcastic. Although at times it may not appear that way.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
GWCRAP
50 posted on 01/05/2018 11:59:48 AM PST by FrankR (On the knees is not a good place to be...a man on the knees is only half a man.....)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

I will try Storm out. I have no patience whatsoever with global warmers. They are ignorant.
I would hope that Monsanto and Pioneer are developing hybrids to deal with cold short growing seasons.


51 posted on 01/05/2018 12:03:51 PM PST by buffaloguy (Bond arms Cowbot)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

But if it was unseasonaly warm for a few weeks instead of cold, these dumb asses would be sure to tell us that it was proof that the planet was warming.


52 posted on 01/05/2018 12:04:36 PM PST by Clarancebeaks
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To: circlecity

When there is record cold the GW crowd says that’s just weather not climate. But when there’s a heat wave in the summer or large hurricane they point to it as proof positive of global warming.


In order for a theory to be scientific, it must be capable of being falsified. When all weather conditions are attributed to global warming, the theory cannot be falsified and is, thus, not scientific.


53 posted on 01/05/2018 2:31:25 PM PST by sparklite2 (Read the Sparklite Times)
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To: Lurkinanloomin

Actually they want the resources from ‘conflict areas’....when they move the young men to other nations the militias have no one to recruit, forceably and not. Thus the conflict ebbs sufficient for the UN hardhats to cover and protect while they mine the resources. Thus no outside country looses their own en fighting....

Basically it’s the long way of stopping the conflicts where resources are there for the pickings.


54 posted on 01/05/2018 4:49:34 PM PST by caww
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
“We know that right now, we’ve had three years – 2016, 2015 and 2014 – which were the hottest on record since 1880,”...ironic that the record low which is expected to be broken tomorrow morning in Philly was set in 2014, one of those supposedly warmest years - they can take all the measurements they want on land and sea whenever they want - there's no way to average them out to adequately represent the "climate" for the entire earth- how do you weight them, how do you parcel out weather trends from climate trends, how do you even separate the warming due to supposed climate change from that naturally occuring as we exit the Little Ice Age - it's garbage.....
55 posted on 01/05/2018 9:02:04 PM PST by Intolerant in NJ
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

The Sky is falling.

OK, how do you guarantee that you can stop the Sky from falling?

I’ll wait.


56 posted on 01/05/2018 9:05:01 PM PST by Kickass Conservative (Tweet softly, but carry a big stick.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

If it is cold, it is weather. If it is hot it is global warming. Any questions?


57 posted on 01/05/2018 9:05:38 PM PST by jpsb
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Let us all remember this when it’s 105 outside in the midwest.

Al Gore said the Arctic Ice would be gone by now and children would never know snow.

He is still spouting off.


58 posted on 01/05/2018 9:07:45 PM PST by eyedigress ((Old storhhm chaser from the west))
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