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Why snow, colder weather conditions don't debunk climate change
AccuWeather ^ | January 5, 2018 | By Ashley Williams

Posted on 01/05/2018 10:12:09 AM PST by Oldeconomybuyer

With a seeming rise in the occurrence of snow days, blizzards and icy travel, the common belief that climate change isn’t happening comes as no surprise.

Scientists stress that locally wintry weather conditions are not indicators of changes in climate, and weather conditions in one part of the world are not representative of what’s occurring globally.

“It’s like saying, 'if everyone around me is wealthy, then poverty is not a problem,'” Peter Frumhoff, the Union of Concerned Scientists science and policy director and chief climate scientist, told CNN.

Scientists point to hard data, including temperature measurements on land and water taken over several decades, which points to an upwards trend in global temperatures, otherwise known as global warming.

“We know that right now, we’ve had three years – 2016, 2015 and 2014 – which were the hottest on record since 1880,” said Brenda Exwanker, climate science director and senior climate scientist for the Union of Concerned Scientists.

NASA reported that 16 of the 17 warmest years on record all happened since 2001.

“Global warming is definitely happening,” Exwanker added.

A popular question seems to be that if global warming is occurring, why do winters seem unusually harsh?

Understanding the distinct difference between weather and climate helps to answer that question.

"Weather refers to the conditions in the atmosphere over a short period of time, whereas climate refers to trends in atmospheric patterns over a much longer timescale," said Dr. John Fleming, a climate scientist with the Center for Biological Diversity.

“This is well expressed as an analogy: weather is like your mood, whereas climate is like your personality,” he said.

“This is why it is possible to have unusually cold weather across much of the U.S. [during] winter, while observing that globally, surface temperatures have been steadily rising,” he added.

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To: Oldeconomybuyer
It's all bunk.

From a climate scientist:

"Government funds science to support pre-determined policy outcomes. So, you thought government-funded science is objective? Oh, that’s adorable."

DrRoySpencer.

21 posted on 01/05/2018 10:28:02 AM PST by Jacquerie (ArticleVBlog.com)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
"Weather refers to the conditions in the atmosphere over a short period of time, whereas climate refers to trends in atmospheric patterns over a much longer timescale," said Dr. John Fleming, a climate scientist with the Center for Biological Diversity.

OK. But they say the Earth has been around for 4.5 billion years. If they base conclusions on just a few decades of measurements then it seems they too are referring to short term conditions relative to the Earth's history.

The bottom line is the climate does change and man will have to adapt to it.

22 posted on 01/05/2018 10:29:07 AM PST by plain talk
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

According to Gore and Michael Mann...... hyuck, hyuck!! Thy have to defend their “Goebbels” propaganda (and lest we forget Goldman Sachs carbon credits commodity exchange money that drove this and that started and stopped on the basis of the exposed fraud of “global warming”, and the subsequent name change. All this exposing the vast amounts of money the greatest holders of carbon- oil rights holder/producers, could have made in the reality of another coming mini-Ice Age ala the one present at the founding of the US).
My 1970’s National Geographics all said... coming Ice Age.

This was posted elsewhere on FR and is excellent, especiall Joe Bastardi’s describing these people as climate ambulance chasers and “witchcraft” of Algore: http://www.climatedepot.com/2018/01/04/al-gore-bitter-cold-is-exactly-what-we-should-expect-from-the-climate-crisis/


23 posted on 01/05/2018 10:31:23 AM PST by John S Mosby (SIC SEMPER TYRANNIS)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
"Brenda Exwanker, climate science director and senior climate scientist for the Union of Concerned Scientists."

Wonder why she gave it up?

24 posted on 01/05/2018 10:31:35 AM PST by cweese (Hook 'em Horns!!!)
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To: Lurkinanloomin
They are using the climate con to transfer wealth from rich countries (US) to poor countries.

They are using the climate con to transfer wealth from the US middle class to global elites. The poor in the poor countries will stay poor.

25 posted on 01/05/2018 10:32:41 AM PST by PapaBear3625 (Big governent is attractive to those who think that THEY will be in control of it.)
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To: plain talk

Man does not drive climate, climate drives man, sun drives climate!


26 posted on 01/05/2018 10:32:44 AM PST by Reily
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To: Buckeye McFrog

Yep— all the pedos and queers taking showers together, came up with “global warming” ... it fits. Think that the guy who started wunderground.com is Penn State peter poofer.


27 posted on 01/05/2018 10:33:22 AM PST by John S Mosby (SIC SEMPER TYRANNIS)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer; All
Ashley Williams, spokeschild for the Cult.

When hurricanes happened at a record pace for the modern era in the mid-2000s, Ashley's PROPHETIC HIGH PRIEST Al Gore told the world that the INCREASED hurricanes were proof of Global Warming.

Now, as the lie is being exposed by the record cold weather and the lower hurricane numbers....well, now suddenly WEATHER isn't evidence.


Cult!

28 posted on 01/05/2018 10:34:43 AM PST by SoFloFreeper
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To: Lurkinanloomin

The Global Warming scam has always been about the money. For these scammers, human energy needs are like soda pop with sugar. They will tax it and with the money, line their pockets. When the winters get colder, they will slobber all over themselves because they have hit pay dirt.


29 posted on 01/05/2018 10:36:03 AM PST by jonrick46 (Trump continues to have all the right enemies.)
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To: PapaBear3625

You are correct.
The money that is supposed to help the poor never does.
It somehow always ends up in other pockets.


30 posted on 01/05/2018 10:37:30 AM PST by Lurkinanloomin (Natural Born Citizen Means Born Here of Citizen Parents-Know Islam, No Peace-No Islam, Know Peace)
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To: caww

The mass migration is to steal our countries from us so there are no rich countries.


31 posted on 01/05/2018 10:40:41 AM PST by Lurkinanloomin (Natural Born Citizen Means Born Here of Citizen Parents-Know Islam, No Peace-No Islam, Know Peace)
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To: robroys woman; All
Just a reminder: fewer than four years ago the geniuses of the NY Slimes published an article that breathlessly said we may soon see
The End of Snow?

You folks up north remember that as you're shoveling the white stuff.

32 posted on 01/05/2018 10:42:09 AM PST by SoFloFreeper
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To: Dilbert San Diego

PSU, the employer of Mr. Fake Hockey Stick Graph himself, Michael Mann.


33 posted on 01/05/2018 10:43:42 AM PST by NohSpinZone (First thing we do, let's kill all the lawyers)
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To: Lurkinanloomin

They’ve had that name “climate change” in reserve since 1988, when the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) was set up by the UN’s World Meteorological Organization (WMO) and UN Environmental Program (UNEP). Before the IPCC, there was the Advisory Group on Greenhouse Gases, headed up by pseudoscientist Bert Bolin.


34 posted on 01/05/2018 10:45:01 AM PST by Olog-hai ("No Republican, no matter how liberal, is going to woo a Democratic vote." -- Ronald Reagan, 1960)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

I have accuweather on my phone but will be getting rid of the app shortly. Good replacements?


35 posted on 01/05/2018 10:47:32 AM PST by buffaloguy (Bond arms Cowbot)
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To: Lurkinanloomin
As they say so themselves!

From the article:

"Ottmar Edenhofer, lead author of the IPCC’s fourth summary report released in 2007 candidly expressed the priority. Speaking in 2010, he advised, “One has to free oneself from the illusion that international climate policy is environmental policy. Instead, climate change policy is about how we redistribute de facto the world’s wealth.”

Or, as U.N. climate chief Christina Figueres pointedly remarked, the true aim of the U.N.’s 2014 Paris climate conference was “to change the [capitalist] economic development model that has been reigning for at least 150 years, since the Industrial Revolution."

Even using the original quote is entertaining: if everyone else around me is wealthy, except for me, then it's very likely that no, poverty is NOT the problem -- I am the problem.
36 posted on 01/05/2018 10:48:15 AM PST by daltec
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To: Buckeye McFrog
AccuWeather has its roots in Penn State University.

Penn State's where that fraud Michael Mann works, right? I guess calling it "Mann-made Global Warming" wouldn't do.

37 posted on 01/05/2018 10:50:02 AM PST by Bob (Damn, the democrats haven't been this upset since Republicans freed their slaves.)
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To: Dilbert San Diego

The hockey stick graph guy is a professor at Penn State.
The place is pretty much a Liberal hellhole.


38 posted on 01/05/2018 10:51:09 AM PST by Buckeye McFrog
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To: robroys woman
So, if the whole planet has darned cold weather for a couple of decades, it does not become “global cooling”?

Sure. They could re-brand it as "Global Cooling". Hell, that's where they started. It would still be human caused and require taxes and wealth redistribution to fix. There is no fix to a problem that does not exist or that can't be controlled.

Eventually our star (the sun) will burn out in spectacular fashion (everyone still on earth will be lost, including the children). We can no more affect that than we can the ever changing climate on this planet.

39 posted on 01/05/2018 10:52:19 AM PST by Tenacious 1 (You couldn't pay me enough to be famous for being rich or stupid!)
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To: Dilbert San Diego

Simple. Warm days are climate and cold days are weather.


40 posted on 01/05/2018 10:52:34 AM PST by ArcadeQuarters ("Immigration Reform" is ballot stuffing)
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