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Another revolutionary act of truth-telling by President Trump.
1 posted on 01/01/2018 9:41:33 AM PST by E. Pluribus Unum
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Replace Pakistan with Democraps.


2 posted on 01/01/2018 9:43:53 AM PST by CMailBag
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Oh darn. More truth from President Trump. Prepare for liberal heads to explode and more brilliant statements from Maxine Waters, Al Green and that saloon hooker dressed up as a rodeo clown. /thank you James Woods


3 posted on 01/01/2018 9:44:51 AM PST by SaveFerris (Luke 17:28 ... as it was in the days of Lot; they did eat, they drank, they bought, they sold ......)
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Pakistan’s ISI created the Taliban.
Pakistan’s madrassas provided the fighters.
Pakistan was hiding Osama bin Laden.

When was Pakistan an ally?


4 posted on 01/01/2018 9:45:29 AM PST by Lurkinanloomin (Natural Born Citizen Means Born Here of Citizen Parents-Know Islam, No Peace-No Islam, Know Peace)
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Because Bush was too weak to twist nipples to get Pakistan’s compliance after 911.......no telling what kind of deals he made with Karzai....but it obviously entailed sending large amounts of cash.....


6 posted on 01/01/2018 9:48:17 AM PST by trebb (Where in the the hell has my country gone? I think Trump may give it back...)
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It'll be fun to see them trot John F. Kerry and other dimwit "diplomats" out to tell us how wonderful Pok-E-Stan is.

Then PDJT can hit them with fact after embarrassing fact after ridiculously humiliating fact after frightening, infuriating fact about where who they gave billions of dollars of our money (that we don't have and have to borrow from future generations) to.

7 posted on 01/01/2018 9:49:51 AM PST by Steely Tom ([Seth Rich] == [the Democrat's John Dean])
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Orwell May Have Been a Leftist...






But he did get some things RIGHT!

8 posted on 01/01/2018 9:50:41 AM PST by left that other site (For America to have CONFIDENCE in our future, we must have PRIDE in our HISTORY... DJT)
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Few Details Known About Obama’s Three Weeks in Pakistan

By Patrick Goodenough | November 3, 2008

https://www.cnsnews.com/news/article/few-details-known-about-obama-s-three-weeks-pakistan


9 posted on 01/01/2018 9:50:51 AM PST by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either satire or opinion. Or both.)
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Fake News CNN? I wonder if it’s true?


10 posted on 01/01/2018 9:52:52 AM PST by DanielRedfoot (Po Dunk)
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Is Pakistan still keeping the dr, who led us to OBL, in Prison?


12 posted on 01/01/2018 9:57:25 AM PST by morphing libertarian (Build Kate's Wall)
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I always check the country of manufacture when buying things like socks. You would be amazed how many textiles such as socks and gloves are made in Pakistan, and I have long refused to buy anything made in Pakistan.


13 posted on 01/01/2018 9:57:27 AM PST by EinNYC
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We need to stay out of their business and problems with their neighbors. We are not the world’s peace keeper.

It was former president George Bush’s policy that worked out best for India-US ties at the time. Bush made it abundantly clear that his government would not mediate between the two countries.

“We are not a mediator, and it is up to India and Pakistan to maintain the momentum (in talks and solving the issues),” the Republican president had said.

It was on July 16, 2000, when US President Bill Clinton offered to help mediate between India and Pakistan. Two days later, Indian foreign minister Jaswant Singh conveyed his government’s unwillingness to allow “third-party mediation to resolve a bilateral dispute”.

Even before he assumed the presidency in 2008 Barack Obama made a similar offer. However, that did not win India’s approval either. Pakistan, on the other hand, has always rooted for American mediation on Kashmir because it believes internationalising the issue will work in its favour. The US, it believes, will be a helping partner. And behind tghe camera, saying an idiot dupe to let US be used for our agenda. Like hiding Ben Laden.

So Trumps tweet is a literal breath of fresh air in the right direction:

“The United States has foolishly given Pakistan more than 33 billion dollars in aid over the last 15 years, and they have given us nothing but lies & deceit, thinking of our leaders as fools,” Trump tweeted Monday morning. “They give safe haven to the terrorists we hunt in Afghanistan, with little help. No more!”

We are not an excuse to feed the beast and Trumo should stop the flow of money to do so. Trump’s getting tough is what the world needs to see after 27 years of softball. They can either play by the rules, or go sit in the stands. Trump left it up to them to make a correct decision by what he said. ‘Bout time someone did!!!!

rwood


15 posted on 01/01/2018 10:02:04 AM PST by Redwood71
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There was, initially, a chance that Pakistan might have seen the light and didn't want to be on the receiving end of our reply to 9/11. But, over time, any fear they had of us disappeared and they realized there were no consequences to intransigence. Enter President Trump.

I'm expecting to hear, yet again, the sound of giant capitulation.

First tweet of the year is significant. I'll bet he considered the psychological importance of that first one before he pushed the 'send' button.

If you missed the post, President Trump's 2017 Year in Review to Purcell
16 posted on 01/01/2018 10:05:29 AM PST by mairdie
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Pakistan - another country cuckolded by The Trump !


17 posted on 01/01/2018 10:20:51 AM PST by WashingtonFire (President Trump - it's like having your dad as President !)
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Expect one of the NeverTrumper neocons to whine about how this tweet against Pakistan will “upset” things in the Middle East and South Asia!


22 posted on 01/01/2018 10:33:15 AM PST by dowcaet
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This is not an attempt to disrespect Trump’s actions. Only he knows what his true intent and objectives are here. I can only wait to see how this plays out, and explain what I see as the dynamic in Pakistan.

Simply cutting off funds, may or may not help the situation. Again, I don’t know what the real plan is, or what the short/long term goals are.

Pakistan has a very problematic government. It also has a large terrorist faction within it’s borders. We know the government hasn’t been as helpful as it could have been rendering the terrorist contingent neutered, so we know the government is a serious problem.

Add to this dynamic the reality that Pakistan is a nuclear armed nation. Of course we are concerned with government actions, but we also have to consider if the Taliban would be a safer owner of those nuclear weapons.

Again, add to all this the fact that Pakistan has been an aggressor to India. It allows it’s Muslim populace to harm Indian interests, and conducts activities on it’s own to harm Indian interests.

When confronted India rightly reacts to Pakistani provocation, and is presented with a nuclear threat in return. Up until 12-15 years ago, the two nations seemed headed for a nuclear conflict. Several times they came very close to open nuclear hostility towards one another.

One of the dynamics of the war against terrorism, was the fact that we developed better relations with Pakistan. As soon as we did the talk of nuclear war was silenced. We brought a certain level of peace to that region. We can point to the strife there accurately, but the 600 pound gorilla in the room, was the possibility of nuclear war, millions of people (perhaps tens of them) dead in mere moments.

While those relations were better than what we had before, they were still not the level of relations we wanted and deserved, considering we were willing to help Pakistan stave off a Taliban takeover.

So what does cutting off aid to Pakistan accomplish. It may be only a temporary ploy to get it to wake up. It may be a negotiating tool.

One last dynamic in play here, is China’s intransigence against Iran. It wouldn’t be too hard to conceive of China being thrilled to see the U. S. leave a vacuum in Pakistan, which China would love to fill. It may very well be that Pakistan has been implementing desires expressed to it by the Chinese government already.

Pakistan going hot would put India between two nations licking their lips at the vision of it’s carcass.

It is not a simple dynamic in Pakistan.

There’s much to think about, and our strategic interests are at stake.

A strong India is not China’s goal. It is ours.


23 posted on 01/01/2018 10:34:19 AM PST by DoughtyOne (McConnell, Ryan, and the whole GOPe are dead to me. Are Alabamans tired of winning?)
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Some clarity in US foreign policy for a change. That’s refreshing.


27 posted on 01/01/2018 10:46:03 AM PST by D_Idaho ("For we wrestle not against flesh and blood...")
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I remember Bush being so scared of telling the truth about Porkistan. He feared that we would lose their help in the Afghan war. But exactly what did they provide us? Then hid Bin Laden and his minions from us. They still hide all kinds of crazy terrorists in their country.

Mullah Barry also will not say anything bad about Porkistan even after we found Bin Laden in that country.

Good that Trump told the truth boldly and loudly. Why are we giving a lot of our money to a country that hides and protects terrorists. We have so much need in this country for that money.

36 posted on 01/01/2018 12:56:52 PM PST by Moorings
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