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Transparent DOJ and FBI Desperation: New York Times Attempts “Trump Operation” Justification
The Last Refuge - Conservative Treehouse ^ | 12/30/2017 | Sundance

Posted on 12/30/2017 8:20:51 PM PST by mojito

Immediately following confirmation by Senator Lindsey Graham about the origin of the 2016 FBI Counterintelligence Operation against candidate Donald Trump, The New York Times, via Clinton’s favorite voice Maggie Haberman, pushes out an article attempting to cloud, obfuscate and justify the joint FBI and DOJ surveillance operation against Trump.

The timing, content and presentation of the disinformation is transparent in the intended motive. More and more people are recognizing the FBI application to the FISA court was based on political information, the Steele Dossier, assembled by political operatives and used by political operatives within the DOJ National Security Division and FBI Counterintelligence Division.

As such, now the people at risk within the FBI and DOJ attempt to shift the focus away from the political document known as the “Steele Dossier” and toward the useful distraction of a short-term volunteer Trump campaign aide, George Papadopoulos.

This approach, originated by the current sense within the intelligence community, indicates all dossier scrutiny is directly over the target; and the leadership knows the risk. This is why the upper-tier management of the FBI and DOJ have refused prior questions about the Dossier’s use. The DOJ/FBI officials know the outline of how the dossier was assembled implicates them in a verifiable conspiracy.

As to the substance of the NYT justification it is absurd on its face.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Front Page News; Politics/Elections; US: New York
KEYWORDS: alexanderdowner; clintoncrimes; comey; coup; deepstate; doj; dossier; drivebymedia; fbi; fusiongps; jamescomey; maggiehaberman; media; mediawingofthednc; msm; newyork; newyorkcity; newyorkslimes; newyorktimes; nyslimes; papadopolous; partisanmediashills; peterstrzok; robertmueller
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To: a fool in paradise
Did they cite the drunken man and the Aussie ambassador in their FISA request? Or cite the Russian doozy-ier??

We're going to find out soon: Right before this Slimes story hit, Lady Lindsay Graham said on Fox that he had seen some of the FISA materials, that he was "disturbed" by them, and recommended a special prosecutor look into them. I don't think the timing here is coincidental.

81 posted on 12/31/2017 9:54:58 AM PST by mojito (Zero, our Nero.)
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To: Neoliberalnot

Ignorance is bliss?


82 posted on 12/31/2017 9:59:45 AM PST by Kickass Conservative ( Tweet softly, but carry a big stick.)
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To: mojito
Thanks for taking this to the next level. As you said, if the first wikileaks release was on July 22, and the Aussies only notified the FBI after that, then that is WELL after the date that Steele told Mother Jones he gave it to the FBI during the first week of July.

And if the WaPo had already tried to claim in June that the only hacking of the DNC was by Russians, a story which was basically planted by the DNC, then it's very likely the same people behind that scheme would also try to tie Trump to the Russians.

While I see that as very likely, I don't think Strzok was any kind of mastermind. He was more like a meathead with enough liberal bias to go along with the scheme. The masterminds were more likely as you inferred the ones sending millions of dollars to Crowdstrike, Perkins Coie, and Fusion GPS.

Who exactly, it's not clear yet. But if FISA applications can only be signed by the AG (or Deputy AG?), it's someone operating up around that level, or higher. Probably one of the Clintons, or Obama, or one of their closest advisors.

83 posted on 12/31/2017 11:15:27 AM PST by Golden Eagle (Trump: "What the FBI has done is really, really disgraceful, and a lot of people are very angry.")
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To: Golden Eagle

FISA applications can be approved by any of the US District Court Judges appointed to the FISC by the Chief Justice of the USSC.


84 posted on 12/31/2017 11:21:58 AM PST by jjotto ("Ya could look it up!")
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To: jjotto

The applications leaving the DOJ. Didn’t we hear one of the reasons from the whining left that Trump wasn’t supposed to fire Sally Yares because she was the only one left that could sign them until his new AG was appointed?


85 posted on 12/31/2017 11:31:49 AM PST by Golden Eagle (Trump: "What the FBI has done is really, really disgraceful, and a lot of people are very angry.")
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To: jjotto

https://www.lawfareblog.com/yes-new-acting-attorney-general-can-sign-fisa-applications


86 posted on 12/31/2017 11:34:51 AM PST by Golden Eagle (Trump: "What the FBI has done is really, really disgraceful, and a lot of people are very angry.")
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To: rodguy911

just shows we have been paying attention.
They write these articles as if the Internet\WWW doesn’t exist.
Internet\WWW has a long memory and makes liars of us all.


87 posted on 12/31/2017 11:36:11 AM PST by stylin19a (Best.Election.of.All-Times.Ever.In.The.History.Of.Ever)
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To: a fool in paradise

sorry... I FUBARd something posting the first. see post #24.


88 posted on 12/31/2017 11:39:18 AM PST by stylin19a (Best.Election.of.All-Times.Ever.In.The.History.Of.Ever)
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To: Golden Eagle

heh heh

The DAG is responsible for dealing with the FISA court, but can’t OK surveillance on their own, that’s for sure.

Every bureaucracy devolves duties on to the ‘Acting’ official in the case of vacancies at the top, and there is ALWAYS an ‘Acting’ official regardless.


89 posted on 12/31/2017 11:46:11 AM PST by jjotto ("Ya could look it up!")
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To: Golden Eagle

Notice is it says “applications”. Applications aren’t permission. That has to come from the FISA court.

Yet another nothing-burger from the NYT.


90 posted on 12/31/2017 11:49:23 AM PST by jjotto ("Ya could look it up!")
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To: jjotto
Applications is what have to be signed by the AG or Deputy, as I originally said. You're the one who brought up the approvals, which don't apply. I was then simply providing you a link showing you that applications require AG or acting AG approval, yet you still went back to discussing approvals again. They had to re-submit the FISA application to more than one judge, so whoever approved it wasn't in on the scheme from the start. Hope that clears it up, thanks!
91 posted on 12/31/2017 11:58:01 AM PST by Golden Eagle (Trump: "What the FBI has done is really, really disgraceful, and a lot of people are very angry.")
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To: Golden Eagle

OK. I misunderstood your point a bit.


92 posted on 12/31/2017 12:01:55 PM PST by jjotto ("Ya could look it up!")
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To: jjotto
No problem. This is really complicated and we're all having to learn a lot in a short amount of time. I appreciate you trying to bring some facts to the discussion, unfortunately they were just off the mark by a tiny hair. I like your tagline too, wish more would follow it.
93 posted on 12/31/2017 12:07:54 PM PST by Golden Eagle (Trump: "What the FBI has done is really, really disgraceful, and a lot of people are very angry.")
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To: mojito
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94 posted on 12/31/2017 12:11:46 PM PST by timestax
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To: stonehouse01
The piece is embarrassingly transparent. That they think anyone believes this pitiful attempt to redirect the truth is just downright funny.
95 posted on 12/31/2017 1:08:52 PM PST by dandiegirl (BO)
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To: gibsonguy

The “Dossier was not the cause of the investigation” meme is taking hold.

They will all have to retract next week because the truth is out there and this is such an obvious attempt to divert from the truth. The truth hopefully will land some people in jail.


96 posted on 12/31/2017 1:14:20 PM PST by dandiegirl (BO)
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To: mojito

Graham said he was disturbed by the FISA materials that he has seen, then he played golf with Trump. They know exactly what’s going on. I expect Graham to come out and refute this stupid article written by Clinton’s buddy.


97 posted on 12/31/2017 1:23:09 PM PST by dandiegirl (BO)
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To: mojito

wow, the first several (i stopped reading after a getting the gist) NYT-”pick” comments are uniformly pro-hillary and anti-trump.

apparently, someone in the deep state is *still* harboring dreams of invalidating the 2016 presidential election!


98 posted on 12/31/2017 1:31:03 PM PST by SteveH
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To: Kickass Conservative

Yes, but lies are offensive to every conservative.


99 posted on 12/31/2017 2:04:49 PM PST by Neoliberalnot (MSM is our greatest threat. Disney, Comcast, Hollywood, NYTimes, WaPo, CNN, NBC, CBS...)
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To: 2111USMC

Yeah, I know. I have an in law, who watches TV all the time. No sense in trying to explain anything.


100 posted on 12/31/2017 4:52:10 PM PST by Bogie
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