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Mormon Cult Leaders Indicted for Forcing Almost Daily Sex Rituals With Underage Girls, Said God (Tr)
newsweek.com ^ | December 29, 2017 | Cristina Maza

Posted on 12/30/2017 2:30:37 AM PST by Berlin_Freeper

A group of Mormon cult leaders is being charged with organizing sexual religious rituals with underage girls and threatening them with damnation if they did not participate, according to court documents filed in Salt Lake City, Utah, on Wednesday.

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To: TChris

Dear little Mormon,

The groupy followers of Joey Smith are called Mormons...

The believing followers of the LORD Jesus Christ who died on the cross and rose again the third day) to save mankind are called Christians...

(It’s important to add the CROSS because the heretical mormons deny that part and insist that their mormom jesus sweated out “salvation” for them in the Garden of Gethsemane...no cross death necessary... )


121 posted on 12/30/2017 5:25:17 PM PST by Tennessee Nana
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To: Tennessee Nana
Nana! I knew you'd be the one!

You just can't help yourself, I know. :)

Congratulations on your post having absolutely NOTHING to do with what I wrote! *applause*

122 posted on 12/30/2017 7:34:09 PM PST by TChris ("Hello", the politician lied.)
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To: TChris

Whoops dear me I did neglect to add...

the FLDS are Mormons...the REAL Mormons...

The Salt Lake City chapter are just a cowardly watered down off shoot group of what Joey Smith originally wanted...

Mormons are not Christians...

there ya go lil mormon laddie...

;)


123 posted on 12/30/2017 9:24:42 PM PST by Tennessee Nana
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To: Elsie
Americans are more likely to be seduced by Mormonism than 'by those in religions across the board.

You say that because there's so many more Mormons than Catholics/Episcopalians/Baptists/Lutherans/Protestants/Etc. - right?

How many kids have Mormons sexually exploited compared to what Priests in the Catholic Church have done (and that's just the ones we know of, which may be the tip of an age-old iceberg)- and which one entailed more homosexuality????

124 posted on 12/31/2017 3:26:36 AM PST by trebb (Where in the the hell has my country gone? I think Trump may give it back...)
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To: Tennessee Nana
(It’s important to add the CROSS because the heretical mormons deny that part and insist that their mormom jesus sweated out “salvation” for them in the Garden of Gethsemane...no cross death necessary... )

All Mormons should realize that...



"He (Joseph Smith) is the man through whom God has spoken... yet I would not like to call him a savior, though in a certain capacity he was a god to us, and is to the nations of the earth, and will continue to be."
-- Brigham Young, Journal of Discourses 8:321
 
 
 
 
"You call us fools; but the day will be, gentlemen and ladies, whether you belong to this Church or not, when you will prize brother Joseph Smith as the Prophet of the Living God, and look upon him as a god..."
-- Herber C. Kimball, Journal of Discourses 5:88
 
 
 
 
"If we get our salvation, we shall have to pass by him [Joseph Smith]; if we enter our glory, it will be through the authority he has received. We cannot get around him [Joseph Smith]"
- (as quoted in 1988 Melchizedek Priesthood Study Guide, p. 142)
There is "no salvation without accepting Joseph Smith. If Joseph Smith was verily a prophet, and if he told the truth...no man can reject that testimony without incurring the most dreadful consequences, for he cannot enter the kingdom of God"
-- Joseph Fielding Smith, Doctrines of Salvation, vol. 1, p.190
 
 
 
 
"I tell you, Joseph holds the keys, and none of us can get into the celestial kingdom without passing by him. We have not got rid of him, but he stands there as the sentinel, holding the keys of the kingdom of God; and there are many of them beside him. I tell you, if we get past those who have mingled with us, and know us best, and have a right to know us best, probably we can pass all other sentinels as far as it is necessary, or as far as we may desire. But I tell you, the pinch will be with those that have mingled with us, stood next to us, weighed our spirits, tried us, and proven us: there will be a pinch, in my view, to get past them. The others, perhaps, will say, If brother Joseph is satisfied with you, you may pass. If it is all right with him, it is all right with me. Then if Joseph shall say to a man, or if brother Brigham say to a man, I forgive you your sins, "Whosoever sins ye remit they are remitted unto them;" if you who have suffered and felt the weight of transgression—if you have generosity enough to forgive the sinner, I will forgive him: you cannot have more generosity than I have. I have given you power to forgive sins, and when the Lord gives a gift, he does not take it back again."
-- Orson Hyde, Journal of Discourses, Vol. 6, p.154-155
 
 
 
 
"It is because the Lord called Joseph Smith that salvation is again available to mortal men.... If it had not been for Joseph Smith and the restoration, there would be no salvation,"
-- Bruce McConkie, Mormon Doctrine, p. 396, 670
 

 
 
"No man or woman in this dispensation will ever enter into the celestial kingdom of God without the consent of Joseph Smith. From the day that the Priesthood was taken from the earth to the winding-up scene of all things, every man and woman must have the certificate of Joseph Smith, junior, as a passport to their entrance into the mansion where God and Christ are—I with you and you with me. I cannot go there without his consent. He holds the keys of that kingdom for the last dispensation—the keys to rule in the spirit-world; and he rules there triumphantly, for he gained full power and a glorious victory over the power of Satan while he was yet in the flesh, and was a martyr to his religion."

Brigham Young, October 9, 1859
Intelligence, Etc.
Remarks by President BRIGHAM YOUNG, delivered in the Tabernacle, Great Salt Lake City, October 9, 1859.
Reported by G. D. Watt
Journal of Discourses, Vol. 7, p.282-91


They succeeded in killing Joseph, but he had finished his work.
He was a servant of God, and gave us the Book of Mormon.
He said the Bible was right in the main, but, through the translators and others, many precious portions were suppressed, and several other portions were wrongly translated; and now his testimony is in force, for he has sealed it with his blood.
As I have frequently told them, no man in this dispensation will enter the courts of heaven, without the approbation of the Prophet Joseph Smith, Jun.
Who has made this so?
Have I?
Have this people?
Have the world?
No; but the Lord Jehovah has decreed it.
If I ever pass into the heavenly courts, it will be by the consent of the Prophet Joseph.
If you ever pass through the gates into the Holy City, you will do so upon his certificate that you are worthy to pass.
Can you pass without his inspection?
No; neither can any person in this dispensation, which is the dispensation of the fulness of times.
In this generation, and in all the generations that are to come, everyone will have to undergo the scrutiny of this Prophet.
They say that they killed Joseph, and they will yet come with their hats under their arms and bend to him; but what good will it do them, unless they repent?
They can come in a certain way and find favor, but will they?
Brigham Young,    --JOURNAL OF DISCOURSES, vol. 8 p. 224


God is my “right hand man.”[8]

(Joseph Smith, in a letter to James Arlington Bennett on November 13, 1843, History of the Church, (Deseret Book, 1975), vol. 6, p. 78.)


"God made Aaron to be the mouth piece for the children of Israel, and He will make me be god to you in His stead, and the Elders to be mouth for me; and if you don’t like it, you must lump it."

Joseph Smith at the LDS Conference on April 8, 1844, History of the Church, vol. 6, pp. 319-320.


"God is in the still small voice. In all these affidavits, indictments, it is all of the devil—all corruption. Come on! ye prosecutors! ye false swearers! All hell, boil over! Ye burning mountains, roll down your lava! for I will come out on the top at last. I have more to boast of than ever any man had. I am the only man that has ever been able to keep a whole church together since the days of Adam. A large majority of the whole have stood by me. Neither Paul, John, Peter, nor Jesus ever did it. I boast that no man ever did such a work as I. The followers of Jesus ran away from Him; but the Latter- day Saints never ran away from me yet."

Joseph Smith, Sunday, May 26, 1844 History of the Church, vol. 6, pp. 408-9.



 "We will become gods and have jurisdiction over worlds, and these worlds will be peopled by our own offspring. We will have an endless eternity for this.”

Joseph Fielding Smith Jr., Doctrines of Salvation, Vol.2, p.48


“As man is, God once was; as God is, man may become.”

Lorenzo Snow, Mormon Prophet and president


"The day will come—and it is not far distant, either—when the name of the Prophet Joseph Smith will be coupled with the name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth, the Son of God, as his representative, as his agent whom he chose, ordained and set apart to lay anew the foundations of the Church of God in the world, which is indeed the Church of Jesus Christ, possessing all the powers of the gospel, all the rites and privileges, the authority of the Holy Priesthood, and every principle necessary to fit and qualify both the living and the dead to inherit eternal life, and to attain to exaltation in the kingdom of God."[5]

Joseph F. Smith, sixth president of the LDS Church, Gospel Doctrine, 5th ed. [1939], p. 134; as quoted in “Joseph Smith: Restorer of Truth,” Ensign, (Dec. 2003): p. 17.


“Thus those who gain eternal life receive exaltation. . . They are gods.”

 (LDS Apostle Bruce McConkie, Mormon Doctrine, pg. 237).


“We stand in reverence before him [Joseph Smith]. He is the great prophet of this dispensation. He stands at the head of this great and mighty work which is spreading across the earth. He is our prophet, our revelator, our seer, our friend. Let us not forget him. Let not his memory be forgotten in the celebration of Christmas. God be thanked for the Prophet Joseph”

(Gordon B. Hinckley, the fifteenth president of the LDS Church, Ensign article entitled “Joseph Smith: Restorer of Truth,” December 2003)


My brothers and sisters, in this bicentennial year of his birth, I should like to speak of our beloved Prophet Joseph Smith. . . . In the 135th section of the Doctrine and Covenants we read the words of John Taylor concerning the Prophet Joseph: “Joseph Smith, the Prophet and Seer of the Lord, has done more, save Jesus only, for the salvation of men in this world, than any other man that ever lived in it.” [D&C 135: 3]

(Thomas S. Monson, counselor to President Gordon B. Hinckley, the semi-annual LDS Conference in Salt Lake City, 2005)

 


125 posted on 12/31/2017 4:22:07 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Tennessee Nana; TChris
The FLDS are folks who actually FOLLOW what is written in LDS scripture.

The LDS folks (SLC branch) kind ignore parts of the scriptures.


Are the SLC folks DAMNED?


Well; according to the Second Living Prophet®...

 

"Now if any of you will deny the plurality of wives, and continue to do so, I promise that you will be damned;

and I will go still further and say, take this revelation, or any other revelation that the Lord has given,

and deny it in your feelings, and I promise that you will be damned.

  - JoD 3:266 (July 14, 1855)


126 posted on 12/31/2017 4:27:05 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: trebb; TChris
You say that because there's so many more Mormons than Catholics/Episcopalians/Baptists/Lutherans/Protestants/Etc. - right?

 
 
No
 
Have you met TChris?
 

Congratulations on your post having absolutely NOTHING to do with what I wrote! *applause*

122 posted on ‎12‎/‎30‎/‎2017‎ ‎10‎:‎34‎:‎09‎ ‎PM by TChris ("Hello", the politician lied.)


I'd bet that He'd note your avoidance of bad theology and then trying to put the focus on sinfullness.

127 posted on 12/31/2017 4:32:34 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Elsie
All Mormons should realize that...

Dang! We never learned THIS stuff in church!!

128 posted on 12/31/2017 4:35:01 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Elsie
Apologies - I almost forgot how rabid you are regarding Mormons.

Happy New Year!

129 posted on 12/31/2017 7:05:51 AM PST by trebb (Where in the the hell has my country gone? I think Trump may give it back...)
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To: Elsie; TChris; trebb

The Mormons can claim that their god, Joey Smith is the way to their god...that they enter their mormon afterlife through Smith...

but that’s a lie from Hell...

for Christians and all of humanity there is no way to God the Father but by the LORD Jesus Christ...

The LORD Jesus Christ said “I AM the Way, the Truth, and the Life. No man or woman comes to the Father but by ME.” John 14:6

and

“I AM the Gate. Whoever enters through Me will be saved” John 10:9


130 posted on 12/31/2017 12:23:59 PM PST by Tennessee Nana
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To: trebb

Yep.

Put up some false teaching near me and I’ll swat at it every time.


131 posted on 12/31/2017 12:56:44 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Tennessee Nana; metmom; Mark17
The Mormons can claim that their god, Joey Smith is the way to their god...that they enter their mormon afterlife through Smith...

Even if they DO manage to make it to the cool side of Eternity; most of them will STILL be stuck with ME and NANA and METMOM and Mark17 forEVER!!!

No active TR when ya croak; no Celestial tea for thee!


 

HEAVEN-The Mormon church teaches there are three levels of heaven (three "degrees of glory"):

Celestial - for Mormons who have kept ALL of the laws and ordinances of their church.                                                        (Where the Father lives.  Only about 15% of Mormons have a VALID TR card.)
Terrestrial - for religious people who aren't Mormons and for Mormons who have not met the requirements of the Church.     (Where approximately 85% 0f Mormons will end up)
Telestial - where unbelievers go


 
 
The Doctrine and Covenants
Section 76
 
 92 And thus we saw the glory of the celestial, which excels in all things—where God, even the Father, reigns upon his throne forever and ever;
 93 Before whose throne all things bow in humble reverence, and give him glory forever and ever.
 94 They who dwell in his presence are the church of the Firstborn; and they see as they are seen, and know as they are known, having received of his fulness and of his grace;
 95 And he makes them equal in power, and in might, and in dominion.
 
 
Those who inherit terrestrial glory will “receive of the presence of the Son, but not of the fulness of the Father.   https://www.lds.org/topics/kingdoms-of-glory?lang=eng  (click view more) 
 
 
 

132 posted on 12/31/2017 1:02:20 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: SkyPilot
While I knew that Brigham Young finally capitulated against the practice of polygamy,
the series did state that some Mormon members continued the practice
even despite the official church capitulation.
I believe the FLDS is a historical offshoot of this belief and practice.

This is not the Prophet you are looking for...

133 posted on 12/31/2017 1:12:33 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Elsie

134 posted on 12/31/2017 1:14:01 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

Then Jim Jones was a Christian!


135 posted on 01/01/2018 3:02:14 AM PST by stockpirate (Give Peas a Chance)
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To: Elsie
One of the things that keeps me liking you - it still doesn't absolve all the other religions who have harbored child molesters though - and that was the original topic.

God Bless and Happy New Year - He is a week old and doing well....

136 posted on 01/01/2018 3:09:53 AM PST by trebb (Where in the the hell has my country gone? I think Trump may give it back...)
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To: wita

I’m not sure I agree in either case. Mo appears to be more of a blood lust for power than anything sexual especially since the appearance is at least in Islam there is a hatred of women. Joseph Smith on the other hand was doing what the living God had commanded, long before polygamy was illegal in the United States of America and way before state supported welfare or Federal food stamps.””

Agree, I’m not a Mormon but I have lived in heavily populated Mormon country in Idaho. Very frankly, Mormons are good people who do their share and behave in a very civil manner. I have enjoyed the company of several and I have come to consider them just another Christian faith. They follow Jesus and that is all that is required.

As far as Islam, they are more a method of rule using a religious moniker to forcibly subjugate the masses and steal their property. Islam is much closer, nay, a form, of organized crime. They sanction mass murder and serial killing of innocent,unarmed people. This is not a religion.


137 posted on 01/01/2018 12:14:11 PM PST by Neoliberalnot (MSM is our greatest threat. Disney, Comcast, Hollywood, NYTimes, WaPo, CNN, NBC, CBS...)
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To: stockpirate

Don’t know what you’re getting at. But it’s salvation at the utter prerogative of God that counts.

People might say “Well then Saul was a Christian!” Well he was and what followed proved it. Delete most of the New Testament otherwise.


138 posted on 01/01/2018 5:54:51 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (Tryin' hard to win the No-Bull Prize.)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

My point is people saying he is a Mormon, when that isn’t true, he’s a twisted human claiming somethimg not true.


139 posted on 01/01/2018 5:58:06 PM PST by stockpirate (Give Peas a Chance)
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To: Neoliberalnot

As far as Islam, they are more a method of rule using a religious moniker to forcibly subjugate the masses and steal their property. Islam is much closer, nay, a form, of organized crime. They sanction mass murder and serial killing of innocent,unarmed people. This is not a religion.

Agree completely. It is unfortunate that those wonderful folks in NGO’s such as Lutheran Social Services, and Catholic Social Services are supporting Islamic refugees bringing them to the United States for their financial gain. That would be the gain of the NGO not necessarily the gain of the refugees.

The problem I see is one has to be ignoring a boatload of evidence to the potential harm those refugees are capable of causing as their ideology is completely incompatible with Western Christian society, not to mention our Constitutional Republic form of Government.


140 posted on 01/02/2018 6:08:23 AM PST by wita (Always and forever, under oath in defense of Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.)
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