Posted on 12/24/2017 10:10:16 AM PST by walford
After decriminalizing defecating on sidewalks, the Chamber of Commerce will probably rename Denver as the “Mile High Pile City.”
No Board of Health? That’s how diseases spread. Now every time I think of Denver I will see visions of poop and other body fluids on the sidewalk. People are required to dispose of dog poop and Denver is letting humans defecate any where they please.
What’s disturbing as well is that they also decriminalized camping out on private land. So now you can go out to get your morning paper, but it’s not there, because the person camping on your front lawn is reading it while defecating on the sidewalk in front of your house.
I always end with it, but I’m saying it now: INSANITY!
Denver City Council had an unanimous vote Monday night to decriminalize the offense of people committing certain low-level crimes like lying in a public right-of-way, urinating in public and panhandling.
City leaders and immigrant rights advocates argued the changes will protect Denver’s immigrant community from facing unintended consequences.
“Many times it becomes a deportable offense if you’ve been convicted of even a minor ordinance violation that’s punishable by a year in jail,” Mark Silverstein said, legal director for the American Civil Liberties Union of Colorado.
Before the vote, all violations of the Denver municipal code were punishable by up to a year in jail and/or a fine of up to $999. The new ordinance creates a brand new sentencing category that carries out different penalties. Most municipal offenses will carry a maximum of 300 days in jail and up to a $999 fine. The new ordinance creates “Class 1” and “Class 2” offenses.
Class 2 offenses, which carry a maximum 60-day jail sentence and no fine.
Sitting or lying in the public right-of-way
Unauthorized camping on public or private property prohibited
Urinating or defecating in public
Panhandling
Curfews and closures
Storage and loading
Prohibitions
Solicitation on or near street or highway
The “class 2” offenses as so-called “quality of life” offenses that often impact the homeless community.
That’s the latest from the progressive city that seeks to ensure it “will not sacrifice” its “values or bend to a broken immigration system.”
Denver Mayor Michael Hancock (D) and some of the city officials explained that the new ordinances are designed to protect immigrants, legal and illegal, from “unintended consequences.”
These consequences were fines and longer jail terms, as has been customary in most places for violating the behavioral norms of civilized American society.
Mark Silverstein, legal director for the American Civil Liberties Union of Colorado, explains the real reason behind the changes: “Many times it becomes a deportable offense if you’ve been convicted of even a minor ordinance violation that’s punishable by a year in jail.”
Denver is considering declaring itself a sanctuary city in defiance of President Trump’s policies on illegal immigrants. But by redefining lawbreaking and its possible penalties, these new Denver laws accomplish much of the same without risking loss of federal funds.
“Usually the defendants are very poverty stricken, maybe even homeless,” Mark Silverstein said.
When Colorado decriminalized marijuana, that was one thing. Whether or not I agree with that decision, I understand the reasoning behind it. But this?
“Last night, City Council voted to approve major sentencing reform and joined my Administration in sending a clear message that we will not sacrifice our values or bend to a broken immigration system.” Denver Mayor Michael Hancock
I am sorry, but even a poverty stricken person is free to use a public restroom. In fact, many private businesses will even allow it. How many times have you gone to a Starbucks and seen a homeless person occupy one of the sofas? I can count at least ten times that I’ve witnessed it, right off the top of my head.
If a person does not have the cognition to use a public facility, then he or she is likely under the influence of drugs or alcohol, or is mentally ill, and therefore should not be on the streets to begin with.
Denver used to be a great clean city. Now that the liberals have a stranglehold on it, and it will literally go into the crapper. Pun intended.
Yes, again…INSANITY!
They have no self respect.......further they see actual toilet areas as disease infected areas so they don’t like to use them.
When you consider the size of their populations you’d think septic systems would be a priority........but then they have to pay to maintain them of course.
BTW We’re not exactly the cleanest people when using rest rooms here.....no matter how they’re kept people trash them without a thought.
Denver seems to be a much less desirable destination now than it used to be.
Urban sprawl will do that to a municipality.
Oh, for the days of the Unsinkable Molly Brown.
Indeed, open toilets makes it so people can expose their genitalia to the public — which is rightfully classified in any civilized society as a sex offense.
[I remember being in downtown DC and a street wino whipped out his wanger and started pissing in broad daylight — within feet of two little girls. Fortunately for me, I was able to resist kicking him in the ass. I would have been the one put in jail, not him.]
Nay, the solution is to remove people from the streets who cannot control their behavior. They need treatment, supervision, health care. And the public needs to be protected.
Cultural differences, ya know.
......”the solution is to remove people from the streets who cannot control their behavior. They need treatment, supervision, health care”.....
That won’t happen there....as long as the people want to stay on the streets. A lot do.
Hmm..., so what’s new they do that daily in the NY City transit subway system.
What kind of “values” those folks got yonder?
Coming to all cities soon”
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n6znDRbS_Ww
......”the solution is to remove people from the streets who cannot control their behavior. They need treatment, supervision, health care”.....
That won’t happen there....as long as the people want to stay on the streets. A lot do.
People who demonstrate that they cannot control themselves and can only survive by stealing, begging and scavenging should be involuntarily committed. It doesn’t matter what they freaking want.
The status quo is we wait until they commit a crime, then they get treatment. Otherwise, they remain on the street, a burden to society.
Correction, see post #1, my first comment.
Causes of that might include:
* low-flow toilets that don't clear all matter on the first flush
* high-tech optical sensor toilets that are supposedly self-flushing, so people are trained to not operate any toilet, self-flushing or not
* high-tech optical sensor faucets that don't always operate, so people don't bother using faucets at all
* high-tech optical sensor paper towel dispensers that don't always operate, so people don't bother using paper towels at all
* high-tech air-blower hand dryers that don't offer the option of dispensing an actual paper towel that can be useful in grabbing the dirty handle of the restroom door to prevent infection from people who don't bother with basic sanitary procedures
* huge spools of toilet paper rolls that pop out of the massive shielded dispenser and end up on the floor
* people who assume the toilet seat is already dirty and decide to lift it with a shoe or rather than sit on it, squat on it with their full weight
* the general lack of civility and consideration for the comfort of other people
etc.
“The solution is to make ANY contact with the police or Courts deportable offenses.”
That’s the current law, but it is not always enforced by local,state and federal law agencies.
However, I’m not sure how you plan to distinguish a pile of poop on a sidewalk by a citizen from a pile of poop on a sidewalk by an illegal alien.
And I seriously doubt that the cops are analyzing excreta to determine guilt, c’mon. The offenders are caught in the act.
You commit a crime and the police determine your citizen status. If you so much as get a traffic ticket and are found to be illegal, you get deported.
“BTW We’re not exactly the cleanest people when using rest rooms here.....no matter how they’re kept people trash them without a thought.”
Everything about our society is decaying along with the trash that the left insist be grown and imported.
He is now a level 3 registered sex offender.
The headline doesn’t use the word “decriminalize.” The headline reads:”It is Now Legal to Defecate and Urinate on Denver Sidewalks! What???”
Like I said, grossly misleading.
In all my travels, India places first in the dirtiest, foulest, unhealthy category. The filth is absurd and everywhere.
“BTW We’re not exactly the cleanest people when using rest rooms here.....no matter how they’re kept people trash them without a thought.”
I’ll bet most people who trash public facilities are members of the RAT party.
Take a look at what trash is left after a RAT rally compared to a Tea Party rally.
Obama inaguration. Don’t worry, someone else will clean it up.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PMrJE7J3fWU
Restoring Honor. Not a single piece of litter.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NioIQc6hA8M
Because the first responsibility of elected representatives is to ignore the taxpaying citizens who elected them.
-PJ
And be replaced with “real Jews” aka Israelis.
That’s the tipping point; I’m moving to Denver.
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