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New York Safe Act: Renew Your Permit and Register All Your Guns or Face Confiscation
The Truth About Guns ^ | 12/16/17 | Robert Farago

Posted on 12/16/2017 5:06:54 PM PST by Simon Green

Greg Camp writes [via ammoland.com]: The badly named New York SAFE Act continues to make the life of the state’s law-abiding gun owners difficult. Residents who are deemed worthy of a pistol permit – permission to own in their homes, to carry to hunting or target shooting, or carry generally, depending on the good graces of law enforcement – that were issued prior to January 2013 must get them renewed or risk having their weapons confiscated.

Governor Cuomo believes that “when they write the history books they’re going to say, ‘New York got it right,’” whoever “they” might be – perhaps he is preparing copy for the Ministry of Truth. The state legislature predictably placed the burden of getting the word out on county law enforcement agencies, and those people who live in New York City or surrounding counties can’t use the state police website to renew.

The law was passed in a hurry over the objections of sheriffs and county clerks. The original seven-round magazine capacity limit got tossed out in court, while most of the provisions have taken effect. But many owners of so-called assault weapons in the state are refusing to register them, suggesting that the spirit of liberty is alive even in one of the worst states for gun owners.

In the same way that the USA PATRIOT Act was a knee-jerk response to 9/11, the NY SAFE Act came as an effort to look busy after the Sandy Hook school shooting, an example of politicians’ belief that punishing people who did no wrong will somehow prevent such incidents in the future.

If the non-compliance in New York isn’t enough to show that a total ban and mandatory confiscation of “assault weapons” would fail, consider the fact that there are millions of AR-15s in circulation alone, not to mention the many other models of semiautomatic rifles with detachable magazines out there.

And if by some perverse miracle good people could be convinced to hand in their guns, Americans who are already criminals aren’t likely to change their ways by being asked, and enough of them specialize in bringing contraband into the country to make effective control of “assault weapons” a pipe dream. Those pipes could be filled with the drugs that are used to conceal guns as they cross the borders.

The reality that gun control advocates refuse to admit is that the only outcome of their demands would be increased harassment of people who aren’t harming anyone. It’s hard not to believe that this is exactly the purpose of such proposals.

We live in a nation that is the main stage of security theater, the promise that if we will take off our shoes to get on an airplane, hand over our drivers’ licenses to buy cold medicine, and tolerate bans and restrictions on a constitutionally enumerated right to save the children, the Millennium will arrive, and we will all be at peace.

Except that plenty of nations have strict gun control and homicide rates that are far higher than ours. And some nations with strict gun laws have rates that are lower than ours. The classic saying is that correlation doesn’t prove causation, but when correlation doesn’t exist, there certainly isn’t evidence for a cause.

This doesn’t stop the advocates of control, and it’s up to those of us who care about rights to say no, to remind our elected leaders that their jobs depend on protecting rather than violating those rights.

To Review: if you have a pistol permit in NY acquired before 2013, no matter how many years ago you received it, you need to reapply by the Jan. 31, 2018, deadline or lose your permit. Contact your local county clerk’s office and thank Gov. Andrew Cuomo for the New York SAFE Act next time he is up for vote.

PS: Did I mention that with your new application you also have to include a list of all pistols and revolvers you currently possess, including the associated make, model, caliber and serial number(s), you know for the safety of the children…


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Government; News/Current Events; US: New York
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To: CatOwner
"Where is "here"?"

Vermont.

You can never return, however, once you escape New York. You are trapped. You can't take your piece into Massagungrab, even locked in a safe, dissassembled, or any ammunition, or back to New York, or into Canada. You are cut off from the rest of the United States.

I smuggled thru the wire, and escaped some time back...

21 posted on 12/16/2017 5:26:30 PM PST by jonascord (First rule of the Dunning-Kruger Club is that you do not know you are in the Dunning-Kruger club.)
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To: TigersEye

Not...officially...


22 posted on 12/16/2017 5:26:45 PM PST by null and void (The internet gave everyone a mouth. It gave no one a brain.)
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To: Simon Green

boating accident


23 posted on 12/16/2017 5:27:45 PM PST by Eddie01
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To: Simon Green

Register your guns and the state will know exactly who and what to come after.

Eff the State!


24 posted on 12/16/2017 5:28:14 PM PST by onedoug
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To: Simon Green

I submit that no one do as “the state” requires.


25 posted on 12/16/2017 5:35:46 PM PST by Terry L Smith
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To: Simon Green

Who will do the unconstitutional confiscating?
What will they do to resistors?
What real men will give the truly appropriate, American response to this?


26 posted on 12/16/2017 5:36:15 PM PST by polymuser (Its terrible to contemplate how few politicians are hanged today. - Chesterton)
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To: Simon Green

Lol...they’re gonna need more Nazis.


27 posted on 12/16/2017 5:38:41 PM PST by Caipirabob (Communists...Socialists...Fascists & AntiFa...Democrats...Traitors... Who can tell the difference?)
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To: Eddie01
boating accident

How tragic.

28 posted on 12/16/2017 5:45:05 PM PST by Simon Green
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To: CatOwner

A few years ago, California tried to tax people out of state who had earned their pensions in California. I believe a judge threw that little trick out.


29 posted on 12/16/2017 5:45:28 PM PST by hanamizu
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To: BenLurkin

The Cultural Marxist and progress-to-tyranny progressives (well, “progressives” at any rate). It’s to make them feel safer from the Deplorables.


30 posted on 12/16/2017 5:47:13 PM PST by Rurudyne (Standup Philosopher)
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To: Simon Green

If my state (the People’s Republic of Maryland, which really could trample our individual, God-given rights) passed such a law, I would not violate it. I don’t want to be a “felon” barred from owning firearms nationwide. I’d move out of state immediately, or at least move my guns out of state and just register whatever I kept for home defense. That way I’d know when they came to confiscate that it was time to get the rest of my property back . . . for its natural purpose.


31 posted on 12/16/2017 5:50:33 PM PST by Pollster1 ("Governments derive their just powers from the consent of the governed")
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To: Simon Green
come get em New York


32 posted on 12/16/2017 5:51:51 PM PST by snarkytart
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To: Simon Green
Governor Cuomo believes that “when they write the history books they’re going to say, ‘New York got it right,’”

Chancellor Hitler believed that “when they write the history books they’re going to say, ‘Germany got it right,’”

33 posted on 12/16/2017 5:52:17 PM PST by RedMonqey (“Better to die on your feet than living on your knees”)
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To: polymuser
Well, since you asked....

Who will do the unconstitutional confiscating?

The police.

What will they do to resistors?

Arrest them and/or shoot them.

What real men will give the truly appropriate, American response to this?

I would estimate the percentage of those who will do anything other than comply in the face of overwhelming force to be considerably less than 1%. Passive resistance (simply not registering them in the first place) is another matter entirely, of course.

34 posted on 12/16/2017 5:57:55 PM PST by Simon Green
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To: Simon Green

Maybe grow some stones like the citizens in Connecticut and refuse to comply with this draconian unconstitutional garbage.


35 posted on 12/16/2017 5:58:32 PM PST by dainbramaged (Get out of my country now)
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To: Simon Green

ha ha ha!
my neighbor says, let the commies try stealing American citizens’ property


36 posted on 12/16/2017 5:59:06 PM PST by faithhopecharity (“Politicians aren’t born, they’re excreted.” - Marcus Tillius Cicero (3 BCE))
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To: null and void

what is future of ‘gun control’ in NV?
Bloomberg put millions of dineros into NV to swing an anti-firearms vote not that long ago, as you know of course...but we out here would very much like to find out if the second amendment is safe in NV for future with all that foreign money and all the Los Angeles leftists moving into Vegas? what you see there?

thanks


37 posted on 12/16/2017 6:00:59 PM PST by faithhopecharity (“Politicians aren’t born, they’re excreted.” - Marcus Tillius Cicero (3 BCE))
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To: RedMonqey
If they are going to confiscate, they already know where they are. This is just harrassment.

F THEM!!!
38 posted on 12/16/2017 6:01:11 PM PST by RW_Whacko (RW_WHACKO)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

Confiscation has already occurred once in NYC. In 1976 those few New York residents who owned semi-autos were required to register them with the politicians’ promise that the registration list would never be used for confiscation. Fast forward to the early 90s and the despicable piece of filth David Dinkins. Confiscation time. Those who did either turn them in to the police (those relentless defenders of the bill of rights) or show proof that they’d been rendered inoperable or sold out of state had the heroes in blue kicking down their doors and stealing their property and arresting the former owners. At least then the police didn’t kill any of the gun owners as they probably would today. King George or Stalin would be proud.

I really hate autocorrect


39 posted on 12/16/2017 6:25:01 PM PST by from occupied ga (Your government is your most dangerous enemy)
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To: polymuser

the sad part is that a whole lot of Law Enforcement Officers will be happy to confiscate and arrest the non compliant citizens. They believe only LE should have guns....and the criminals to keep “business running and in demand.


40 posted on 12/16/2017 6:30:39 PM PST by davidb56
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