... until they told me human sacrifices were involved ...
You know, I have said it repeatedly over the years, I am grateful to liberals for telling me all I need to know about a given point of view in the very first sentence, often in the very first words that they use to convey their point of view.
It has saved me so much time over the last 30 years that they are literally improving the quality of my life and longevity by being to the point.
In this case, twelve words in, first sentence, I know exactly what they are going to say and how they are going to say it by characterizing as “homophobes” normal people who view homosexuality as deviant activity.
That is one minute of time reading the article that I won’t have to fret about never getting back.
Can a muslim force a gay baker to bake a cake with pictures of homos being thrown off buildings?
No. Forcing a Jew make a cake with Nazi swatika on it is not like forcing Christian make a cake for a homosexual, because your political conscience is NOT protected by the First Amendment, whereas the free practice of religion IS protected.
In other words you are on better legal ground forcing the Jew to make the Nazi’s cake.
But why not Freedom?
Wrong. It's exactly the same...
Yes, it is. Private business being told they have to transact business.
1) You are trying to say your opposition should be morally condemned the way we condemn Nazism. Outside of special cases where the subject of criticism has done something comparable to the horrors of the Holocaust, this kind of comparison is gratuitous and is often used by idiots that just want to lash out at those they disagree with.
2) You are using the Nazis as an example of an ideology or cause that everyone accepts as wrong and evil in order to help illustrate a point other than accusing your opposition of being Nazi-like.
This article seems is treating a comparison clearly in class 2 as if it were a gratuitous comparison in class 1.
How would you codify that into law?
How many Lefties would take the same position had the White separatist (or whomever they were, IDK exactly) organizers of the Charlottesville rally tried to order a bunch of cakes from a local bakeshop in order to keep their protesting Klansmen well-fed. Give me a break.
Of course it is. Even if sexual orientation is immutable, marriage is a choice.
You cannot be forced to proclaim a message that you do not believe.
“stop hanging out with people who only bring up the Holocaust as a way to illustrate unrelated arguments”
Presumably, the author is thinking of a past president who compared the Holocaust as being equivalent to recognizing the Jewish state’s capitol? Yes, that must be it.
:p
But if you support the death penalty for someone who savagely rapes, murders and mutilates a person, that makes you EXACTLY THE SAME as the murderer, according to libthink.
My thoughts on this may not accurately reflect the law as written and interpreted but this seems so much simpler to me than people are making it out to be.
If you run an establishment open to the public, you cannot refuse to sell items that are available “as is” to anyone for any reason. Example, a baker fills the display case with bread and cakes and donuts for sale to the public - any person who walks in can buy it. This is basic contract law. The baker offered it for sale and the customer accepted the offer. Simple. That is a contract.
But no member of the public can compel an establishment to enter into a contract unwillingly, for any reason at all. The baker can refuse to make swastika cakes, he can refuse to make cakes with KKK on them, he can refuse to make a 15 layer cake for a straight Christian couple, and he can refuse to make a cake for a gay couple for any reason at all. No person can be compelled by the public into forced labor. Even if they offer this general service “we make custom cakes” it does not mean they have to make any damn cake any customer wants to have made.
You cannot force a Jewish caterer to serve Ham, nor force a Jewish or 7th Day Adventist to cater an event on Saturday, nor force a band to play songs they don’t like. At least, up until the stupid Obamacare ruling forcing people to buy insurance this was a pretty obvious legal understanding. Two people must both be willing to enter into a contract. Nobody can be forced. The reason - be it hate, love, religion, ignorance, lack of skill, lack of time, lack of supplies, lack of profit for the effort - doesn’t matter.
... until they told me human sacrifices were involved ...
It can’t be the same because there is no such thing as a “homophobe.” That is a made-up word invented by the Left to force their agenda on everyone.
If you'd like to be on or off, please FR mail me.
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As usual the Forward is wrong, less common the Tribune is right. Any black bakers out there better get ready to make some noose cookies.
5 million other people died in the Holocaust. When will that be acknowledged by the Forweird?
GODWIN’s law came EARLY in this thread!
Yes, it is.
But that does not show up on the radar of those who want to push their agenda.
Yabut, what about a trannie baker? Does it have to bake a Swastika cake?
And what about yer average Nazi baker, does he have to bake a faggot cake?