Posted on 12/07/2017 11:39:00 PM PST by Trump20162020
Police body cam footage shows the moment a Mesa, AZ police officer gunned down an unarmed man in a hotel hallway -- a shooting where the jury found the officer not guilty of 2nd degree murder.
The 2016 shooting happened in a hotel where police were responding to a report of someone pointing a gun out a window. Philip Brailsford was one of the responding officers, and in this video you see and hear the cops barking out commands to a man and woman the moment they walk out of their room.
While attempting to take Daniel Shaver into custody ... Brailsford fired his AR-15 five times, shooting and killing 26-year-old Shaver. Brailsford, who is no longer on the force, was on trial for 2nd degree murder and reckless manslaughter -- until the jury returned not guilty verdicts Thursday on both counts.
(Excerpt) Read more at tmz.com ...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mjr0Ts6yORE
Starts to get serious at 12:30; killing in at 16:45.
Hideous. Even sober, I don’t know if I would have successfully obeyed the cops commands. And why have the suspect crawl toward you? Why not approach him while he is face down, hands extended, legs crossed on the ground? By ordering him to crawl toward the cops, didn’t the COPS force him to act in a way that could allow someone to go for a gun?
That was pretty intense. When an officer has to respond to a “man with gun” call, they must be extremely on edge. This poor guy was in the wrong place, at the wrong time, way too nervous and probably drunk, but boy did he mess up when he turned around. Very unfortunate, but I can understand how this video acquitted the cop of murder.
I think I figured out why the officers had him crawl - he was down on the floor in front of two doors on the right hand side of the hall, one of which could be opened without the officers being able to see it. It could have been used to ambush the officers if they approached the guy on the floor. You can see the door at 17:25. Wasn’t very well handled by the cops, though.
However - his mistake was quickly sweeping his hand back toward his waist (why? No idea) with multiple guns trained on him. That’s an automatic game over, unfortunately for him. IMHO this is unfortunately a justified (if barely) shooting simply because of that.
Yeah, this is one of those situations that you find yourself wishing the officers had been issued ballistic shields so the idiot’s (and you are an idiot if police officers are telling you to do something at gunpoint and you quickly reach for your waist) action could possibly have been parsed by officers behind the safety of their shields without having to have had the automatic reaction of opening fire.
The officer (Philip Brailsford) is still fired because he broke police department policy by having "you're f***ed" custom engraved into his rifle dust cover.
They did. But the bootlickers on this site will say that the deceased brought it on himself.
Not justified. At all. This cop should be on death row.
The cop should have been (and was) fired because of this, but strictly speaking, a civilian would have been justified in shooting had this been in a home and an intruder being held at gunpoint had quickly swept their hand to their waist.
The deceased also said (on video) that he *wasn’t* inebriated.
And yes, he did indeed deserve to be fired for that among other reasons.
It wasn’t in the cops home and he wasn’t an intruder. The cop screwed up and murdered this guy.
It would still be legal if they were a civilian in a similar circumstance in states with Stand Your Ground laws. Unfortunately the second the guy swept a hand to his waist, that was it - game over. While the whole rest of the episode was atrocious and his training officer *and* supervisor should also be fired, I unfortunately must agree with the jury that the shooting was technically legal.
That’s one lucky cop.
All of this being said, if the thug cop had behaved like this and gotten himself shot, I would have little sympathy.
(why? No idea
Look at his shorts at the time.
This guy was drinking, had a pellat gun he used for work, someone called it in after seeing it through the window, and likely scared out of his mind.
If I were in a similar situation, even sober, I am not sure I would be able to obey the cop simply because I would be paralyzed in absolute fear.
Hands up, hands behind head, cross legs, kneel, crawl...and five guns trained on an unarmed man ...WTH! Why did they even call them out into the hallway? Seriously an even more confined space? Why did they not treat the woman the same way? What was she saying at the time this was going on?
I once had a dog who was very smart but if you yelled at her she would panic and not be able to correctly respond to instructions. She simply would not know what to do and would do the wrong thing hoping it was right. I have known people who responded the same way. This guy appeared to be one of them and it led to his death.
Trigger happy cop executed that dude. Good thing he was white. Only thing that could have been better if he was a biker, then there would be no doubt. /s
Looked to me like he stumbled a little and tried to steady himself. And that is a reflex - in spite of the cop earlier ordering him to just fall on his face if he stumbles. You can’t stop all reflex actions.
We expected higher performance from soldiers in Afghanistan. Heck, they could have largely cleared it up just by calling the room in question and asking what was going on!
Yes, cops sometimes need to take some chances. So do soldiers. And judgment. And judgment should have told him this guy was very low threat, that he was trying to comply.
I’m generally very pro-cop. But the way the cop was acting went totally against everything I believe a good cop should do. It is like the Jose Guerena shooting in Tucson a while back:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zIUnEWYdPnI
Jose Guerena was more likely to be a threat than this guy was...but the behavior of the cops was totally out of control, firing over 70 bullets, hitting 5 houses...
I’ve seen people online discussing training for CCW. Going to ‘force on force’ training, and learning to use the trigger reset of their striker fired pistols to shoot a target faster. Since I’m more of a revolver guy, I don’t have a “trigger rest”. I also accept I may be killed in some tense situations if I don’t shoot immediately - but that is part of the price of being a man.
I’ve only pulled a gun in self-defense once. And I hesitated just a moment, and that was enough that the situation changed and I ended up walking away without shooting. I was in my early 20s, so younger at the time than this cop was. But then, I also didn’t have “YOU’RE F[****]D” engraved on my gun case.
To this day, I support what the cops did to Rodney King. But there are too many cases where ninja cops seem to be looking for an excuse to shoot. I’m glad this cop was fired, but there needs to be SOME penalty paid for shooting an unarmed man who was crying and trying to comply.
The moment he died for:
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/cop-filmed-executing-man-hands-11659721
The woman's purse was in the way. He...did what? He was crying with fear (and with good reason), required to look directly at the ground and not ahead, encountered an obstacle, and...so he died.
The cops murdered that kid.
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