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Oh My: Has Mueller Crossed Trump’s “Red Line”?
Hotair ^ | 12/05/2017 | Ed Morrissey

Posted on 12/05/2017 7:01:53 AM PST by SeekAndFind

The probe into Russian collusion is about to get a lot more personal. Bloomberg reports that the main lender for the Trump family’s financial empire has begun cooperating with Robert Mueller’s investigation after the special counsel got a subpoena for their records. Democrats in Congress have long demanded to know whether Trump’s dealings with Deutsche Bank had any connections with Russia, but Trump warned early on that he’d act if Mueller attempted to go that far outside his mandate:

Special prosecutor Robert Mueller zeroed in on President Donald Trump’s business dealings with Deutsche Bank AG as his investigation into alleged Russian meddling in U.S. elections widens.

Mueller issued a subpoena to Germany’s largest lender several weeks ago, forcing the bank to submit documents on its relationship with Trump and his family, according to a person briefed on the matter, who asked not to be identified because the action has not been announced. …

Deutsche Bank for months has rebuffed calls by Democratic lawmakers to provide more transparency over the roughly $300 million Trump owed to the bank for his real estate dealings prior to becoming president. Representative Maxine Waters of California and other Democrats have asked whether the bank’s loans to Trump, made years before he ran for president, were in any way connected to Russia. The bank previously rejected those demands, saying sharing client data would be illegal unless it received a formal request to do so. Trump has denied any wrongdoing.

Five months ago, Trump called any move by Mueller into unrelated financial issues a “red line” that could prompt him to exercise his executive authority in regard to the special counsel. That depended on whether the inquiry had a relation to the Russian question:

SCHMIDT: Last thing, if Mueller was looking at your finances and your family finances, unrelated to Russia — is that a red line?…

TRUMP: I would say yeah. I would say yes. By the way, I would say, I don’t — I don’t — I mean, it’s possible there’s a condo or something, so, you know, I sell a lot of condo units, and somebody from Russia buys a condo, who knows? I don’t make money from Russia. In fact, I put out a letter saying that I don’t make — from one of the most highly respected law firms, accounting firms. I don’t have buildings in Russia. They said I own buildings in Russia. I don’t. They said I made money from Russia. I don’t. It’s not my thing. I don’t, I don’t do that. Over the years, I’ve looked at maybe doing a deal in Russia, but I never did one. Other than I held the Miss Universe pageant there eight, nine years [crosstalk]…

SCHMIDT: But if he was outside that lane, would that mean he’d have to go?…

TRUMP: No, I think that’s a violation. Look, this is about Russia.

That’s the $64,000 question, right? What does Deutsche Bank’s loans to Trump have to do with Russian influence on the election? The bank has worked with Trump since the 1990s, long before the tycoon decided to enter politics as a candidate. The special counsel’s mission — or at least its original mandate — was supposed to determine whether the Trump campaign colluded with Russian intelligence to hack the DNC and John Podesta, as well as coordinate a propaganda campaign during the election. Deutsche Bank seems like a target far afield from that mission, and more like Mueller has taken on a far broader role as a shadow Department of Justice.

In fact, this is rather curious. Democrats may have wanted to depose Deutsche Bank but Russia was only an excuse. They wanted to get to Trump’s financial records to dig up any tax evasion or other financial crimes to use against him. Without any clear connection to Russian collusion in 2015-16, why exactly does Mueller want to see those records? Has this become a tax evasion case? If so, what dirt could Mueller get that the IRS couldn’t make stick in tax audits every year for the last two decades, the last eight of which took place during the Obama administration’s politicization of the IRS?

However, that is the unfortunate history of special counsels under any name over the last few decades. The nature of their authority lends itself to ever-expanding scopes as they attempt to gain leverage over material witnesses. We’ve already seen that with the indictment of Paul Manafort and Rick Gates for money laundering and rarely-charged FARA violations, none of which had to do with the theory of Russian collusion that started the investigation. This is why appointing special counsels is a very bad idea; one should only make that choice when all of the other options are so bad that they make a special counsel look good, and it’s arguable as to whether that was the case in May.

The other $64,000 question is what Trump does now. He has the authority to fire Robert Mueller, or more accurately to order Rod Rosenstein to do so, but that puts Trump in position for an impeachment — especially if Rosenstein refuses. Trump likely didn’t commit obstruction in the legal sense in firing Comey, but he’d be clearly committing obstruction in the political sense if he fired Mueller now. Trump’s supporters would be delighted, but so would Democrats in Congress who might get enough Republicans to wonder just what Trump has to hide after all. This could be the briar-patch toss for which Democrats have salivated since Mueller got appointed seven months ago.



TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events; Russia
KEYWORDS: collusion; deutschebank; mueller; muellerinvestigation; russia; specialcounsel; trumpbankinginfo; trumprussia
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1 posted on 12/05/2017 7:01:54 AM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

Yes.


2 posted on 12/05/2017 7:03:32 AM PST by Hotlanta Mike ("You can avoid reality, but you can't avoid the consequences of avoiding reality.")
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To: SeekAndFind

Well, there is the theory that Mueller wants to be fired in order to pave the way for Leftist Outrage and an attempt at impeachment.

“Hey, where is that Red Line? I need to step over it.”


3 posted on 12/05/2017 7:04:28 AM PST by ClearCase_guy (Benedict McCain is the worst traitor ever to wear the uniform of the US military.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Trump needs to have Mueller fired now.


4 posted on 12/05/2017 7:05:17 AM PST by jospehm20
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To: SeekAndFind

Keep it up, Mueller, you’re sure to find Trump jaywalked once back in 1976.


5 posted on 12/05/2017 7:07:05 AM PST by bgill (CDC site, "We don't know how people are infected with Ebola.")
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To: SeekAndFind

Just a ruse so no one will know that Muller is secretly working with Trump...........


6 posted on 12/05/2017 7:07:30 AM PST by kjam22
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To: jospehm20

Sessions at the same time.


7 posted on 12/05/2017 7:07:34 AM PST by x1stcav (We have the guns. Do we have the will?)
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To: SeekAndFind
He has the authority to fire Robert Mueller, or more accurately to order Rod Rosenstein to do so, but that puts Trump in position for an impeachment — especially if Rosenstein refuses

Does he have the constitutional authority to do so? Then he should do it and let them even try to impeach him on complete BS. This is a witch hunt in every sense, they know damn well this Russia collusion crap is just that: complete crap, this has been going on all year and they do not have one scintilla of evidence. It is impeding upon the Presidents DUTY to the country and they are using this Hillary invented hoax to appease their globalist masters who do not give one flying F about this country. Imagine that! They are investigating his finances while the Clinton money laundering foundation continues to be ignored!

8 posted on 12/05/2017 7:07:58 AM PST by GrandJediMasterYoda (Trump: Greatest POTUS of all time solely for preventing Satan from taking office.)
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To: SeekAndFind

If Trump fires Mueller or Sessions, the house will truly try to impeach him. All of the dems, and probably 40 republicans, will vote in favor of it. They hate him that much.

Congress is the answer, though. Congress needs to call for the firing of Mueller, and if that fails, call for the resignation of Sessions. If Congress gets loud enough, Sessions will do it. Then Trump can appoint any of his cabinet to fill the AG position until the Senate approves a replacement.


9 posted on 12/05/2017 7:08:04 AM PST by Basket_of_Deplorables (Drone Soros and sons!!!)
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To: SeekAndFind

Gaw...0bama and Hillary really made a mess for Trump.

Is there anyway ‘we the people’ can get this charade shutdown? Seriously. I mean through congress or something?

This has gone way beyond a joke. It is an aggravation to the nation.


10 posted on 12/05/2017 7:08:19 AM PST by EBH ( May God Save the Republic)
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To: SeekAndFind
At last !

A well-written article...worth reading.

Explains a lot of things in simple, understandable words.

Leni

11 posted on 12/05/2017 7:08:23 AM PST by MinuteGal (MAGA !!!)
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To: SeekAndFind

Trump’s best move at this point would be to fire Jeff Sessions and insist that his replacement start a parallel investigation of Hillary and the Clintons.

As soon as a similar move was made to subpoena those finances we’d likely have a stand-down due to Mutually
Assured Destruction.


12 posted on 12/05/2017 7:08:46 AM PST by Buckeye McFrog
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To: ClearCase_guy
Well, there is the theory that Mueller wants to be fired in order to pave the way for Leftist Outrage and an attempt at impeachment.

The impeachment "way" has already been "paved." Trump must fire Sessions, Mueller and Rosenstein - and accept the 'Rat/Media fallout.

War is hell.

13 posted on 12/05/2017 7:10:02 AM PST by TTFlyer
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To: bgill

That’s just it. Years ago I saw a factiod that anyone at any time can be found guilty of a crime...in fact several a day if one looks hard enough.

This whole thing is illegal as Mueller didn’t have a crime to investigate in the first place.


14 posted on 12/05/2017 7:10:51 AM PST by EBH ( May God Save the Republic)
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To: SeekAndFind

In this twisted world, it’s at least possible, because they have nothing else, that they are trying to troll Trump, hoping that he fires Mueller.


15 posted on 12/05/2017 7:12:18 AM PST by bramps (It's the Islam, stupid!)
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To: Buckeye McFrog
Trump’s best move at this point would be to fire Jeff Sessions and insist that his replacement start a parallel investigation of Hillary and the Clintons.

Trump should leave Mueller in place but appoint a special counsel to investigate the Justice Department and the FBI. There is ample evidence that there was widespread corruption in both agencies.

16 posted on 12/05/2017 7:12:35 AM PST by Timocrat (Ingnorantia non excusat)
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To: SeekAndFind
Was equal scrutiny made regarding Comey's cozy ties to Clinton banking issues?

:::::CRICKETS:::::

HSBC Holdings

In 2013, Comey became a board member, a director, and a Financial System Vulnerabilities Committee member of the London bank HSBC Holdings.

“Mr. Comey’s appointment will be for an initial three-year term which, subject to re-election by shareholders, will expire at the conclusion of the 2016 Annual General Meeting,” according to HSBC company records.

HSBC Holdings and its various philanthropic branches routinely partner with the Clinton Foundation. For instance, HSBC Holdings has partnered with Deutsche Bank through the Clinton Foundation to “retrofit 1,500 to 2,500 housing units, primarily in the low- to moderate-income sector” in “New York City.”

New York? Comey? Clinton? Deutsche Bank? Is there a lame tie to the Trump Empire? Sounds like a stretch...

17 posted on 12/05/2017 7:12:36 AM PST by SERKIT ("Blazing Saddles" explains it all.......)
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To: SeekAndFind

If Mueller is playing the game this way that proves he has nothing on Trump and this is a way of trying to force Trump to blow up the investigation so they can make more political hay out of this claim Trumps Presidency is invalid.

In any event - this investigation is no longer about truth seeking or justice but a political witch hunt that must be shut down for the good of the Republic.

Otherwise the Dems will destroy this nation.


18 posted on 12/05/2017 7:12:45 AM PST by Skywise
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To: SeekAndFind

All of us who have ever tried to navigate the tax code when itemizing or filing business info know that decions are made “to the best of my knowledge “.

If someone wanted to target an error or even a so-called “lie” about a deduction or error, then they could do it.

Take the 5th. Don’t talk to those people. They are the gestapo.


19 posted on 12/05/2017 7:12:51 AM PST by xzins (Retired US Army chaplain. Support our troops by praying for their victory.)
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To: Buckeye McFrog

“Trump’s best move at this point would be to fire Jeff Sessions and insist that his replacement start a parallel investigation of Hillary and the Clintons.”

That’s exactly what Trump’s next move should be.


20 posted on 12/05/2017 7:15:02 AM PST by jersey117 (Sp)
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