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Judge orders Wyoming officers to return $92,000 seized from Wisconsin musician
Chicago tribune ^ | December 2, 2017 | Kathleen Foody

Posted on 12/04/2017 5:46:17 AM PST by Leaning Right

A Wyoming judge ordered the state Friday to return nearly $92,000 seized from a musician during a traffic stop that resulted in no criminal charges or even an arrest, according to the man's attorney.

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Parhamovich said the officers implied that carrying that much cash was illegal. He lied and said it was a friend's.

Parhamovich said officers then told him that he could leave if he signed a form saying he was giving the $91,800 to the investigative agency for "narcotics law enforcement purposes."

(Excerpt) Read more at chicagotribune.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; US: Wyoming
KEYWORDS: parhamovich
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To: Fhios

Sarcasm cannot be discerned by all, as some lack the intellect.

Obviously.


21 posted on 12/04/2017 6:36:08 AM PST by logi_cal869 (-cynicus-)
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To: VietVet876

Cash in hand is a very good incentive in negotiating a purchase.

I once sold an amp for 1/3 less than I wanted when the money was laid on the table.


22 posted on 12/04/2017 6:37:00 AM PST by Rebelbase (The urge to save humanity is almost always only a false-face for the urge to rule it.-- H.L. Mencken)
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To: Leaning Right

But can he play smoke on the water?


23 posted on 12/04/2017 6:43:35 AM PST by DainBramage
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To: VietVet876
That cash might buy a couple of ‘58 Les Pauls or a mint condition blond ES 335 with double white PAF’s and the original stop-tail setup.

Or 73,000 snow cones.

24 posted on 12/04/2017 6:46:29 AM PST by TangoLimaSierra (It's gonna be bloody.)
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To: oldplayer

“The so-called musician had nefarious purposes for that cash.”

Did you read the article? It really helps to better understand the world around you.


25 posted on 12/04/2017 6:50:23 AM PST by Portcall24
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To: logi_cal869

Really? If he wants it read as sarcasm then a :/ tag would have been useful.

As things are today, even on FR forums it maybe his real opinion.

I’ve read posts defending the indefensible before, particularly when it comes to LE.


26 posted on 12/04/2017 6:51:41 AM PST by Fhios (Down with your fascism, up with our fascism.)
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To: TangoLimaSierra

talk about brain freeze...


27 posted on 12/04/2017 7:02:44 AM PST by cableguymn (We need a redneck in the white house....)
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To: Mr Ramsbotham

Alban said it’s troubling that the officers who pulled the musician over had a printed copy of the waiver handy during the roadside encounter.


28 posted on 12/04/2017 7:08:21 AM PST by Neidermeyer (Show me a peaceful Muslim and I will show you a heretic to the Koran.)
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To: Leaning Right

If the judge’s orders the sherrif jailed for contempt, it will probably expedite the cash return. Signing anything was under duress.


29 posted on 12/04/2017 7:13:57 AM PST by BigEdLB (To Dimwitocrats: We won. You lost. Get used to it.)
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To: eyeamok

Absolutely.

And part of the reason I never allow my vehicle to be searched without a warrant.


30 posted on 12/04/2017 7:25:53 AM PST by Manuel OKelley
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To: Bloody Sam Roberts; eastforker

I certainly read the article. I assumed the worst, despite the explanation of the musician. By doing that, you don’t have to even defend against the unwarranted taking with a plausible reason for having the cash. Law enforcement had no REASON to take the cash, even if it was illicit. The judge’s ruling was correct.

Simply having cash, even if having it with evil intent, is not a crime (without a WHOLE LOT of extra circumstances which certainly were not present here.)


31 posted on 12/04/2017 7:34:17 AM PST by oldplayer
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To: Manuel OKelley

> I never allow my vehicle to be searched without a warrant. <

Don’t forget the ol’ drug-sniffing dog routine. The cops can have a dog sniff around your car without your permission. They can search the interior of your car only if the dog has alerted.

But if the cops want the dog to alert, that dog will alert. (Some reports have said police dogs false-alert over half the time. Bias of the handler is one reason for that.)


32 posted on 12/04/2017 7:38:09 AM PST by Leaning Right
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To: eastforker; Fhios; Bloody Sam Roberts; Portcall24; Darteaus94025; Rebelbase

And, BTW, in our Oklahoma County, the head law enforcement officers made a principled decision to NOT seek civil forfeiture unless there was a direct connection between the property seized and the purported crime THAT RESULTED IN A CONVICTION. They were criticized by others for simply following Constitutional safeguards.


33 posted on 12/04/2017 7:44:09 AM PST by oldplayer
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To: Rebelbase

I watch PAWN STARS on weekends. Yesterday, a long time studio musician brought in his own guitar, a 1961 Fender, and sold it to Rick Harrison for $55,000. Love watching that show.


34 posted on 12/04/2017 8:02:59 AM PST by ridesthemiles (uen)
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To: Leaning Right

I wonder if a police dog would ‘alert’ on my car. In 36 years, there have been at least 8 different dogs in that car......


35 posted on 12/04/2017 8:05:20 AM PST by ridesthemiles (uen)
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To: Manuel OKelley
And part of the reason I never allow my vehicle to be searched without a warrant.

They don't need a warrant, they just need a K-9 to "alert" on your vehicle.

36 posted on 12/04/2017 8:51:50 AM PST by MileHi (Liberalism is an ideology of parasites, hypocrites, grievance mongers, victims, and control freaks.)
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To: Leaning Right

I don’t care whether he intended to pay taxes on that money or not. I don’t care whether he intended to use that money for “legitimate” purposes or not. It was stolen by law enforcement, and I’m glad he’s getting his money back. I hope he will also recover damages. Stealing is not okay, not even when government officials are the ones engaged in theft.


37 posted on 12/04/2017 8:54:52 AM PST by Pollster1 ("Governments derive their just powers from the consent of the governed")
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To: Leaning Right
He lied and said it was a friend's.

Dumb really, really dumb. At that moment the cash became abandon property.

38 posted on 12/04/2017 9:07:22 AM PST by usurper ( version)
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To: DainBramage
But can he play smoke on the water?

"Money For Nothing, Chicks For Free!"

39 posted on 12/04/2017 9:11:23 AM PST by Fightin Whitey
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To: Leaning Right
officers then told him that he could leave if he signed a form saying he was giving the $91,800 to the investigative agency

How is this not considered anything but outright thievery and abuse of authority?

And Jeff Sessions supports this. Sessions is and probably will be the single biggest mistake Trump will make during his presidency.
40 posted on 12/04/2017 9:13:54 AM PST by LostInBayport (When there are more people riding in the cart than there are pulling it, the cart stops moving...)
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