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Judge bars Starbucks from closing 77 failing Teavana stores
NY Post ^ | 12/01/2017 | Lisa Fickenscher

Posted on 12/03/2017 8:41:50 AM PST by Maceman

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To: KC_for_Freedom
Agree but commercial leases are far more likely to provide for termination of the lease with penalties pre-defined. What is a judge doing in a contract dispute?

Starbucks, who is swimming in money, decides to cut and run on a contract that has a specific performance clause just because they don't like selling tea anymore.

Simon is probably going to get a nice cash windfall.

Really would like to see a copy of that contract though and it's penalties.

101 posted on 12/03/2017 10:03:29 AM PST by Snickering Hound
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To: hanamizu

“Getting rid of Federal lifetime appointments requires an amendment to the Constitution.”

There is no lifetime appointment to the federal judiciary.


102 posted on 12/03/2017 10:06:53 AM PST by jeffersondem
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To: Steve_Seattle; All
"I’m no lawyer, but this sounds like massive judicial overreach."

I agree 100%.

Insights welcome.

103 posted on 12/03/2017 10:07:49 AM PST by Amendment10
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To: Publius

There is no way a judge has that authority. Only in “Atlas Shrugged.”


104 posted on 12/03/2017 10:10:34 AM PST by IronJack (A)
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To: dfwgator
yup, i don't see how it could possibly be legal
105 posted on 12/03/2017 10:10:47 AM PST by Chode (You have all of the resources you are going to have. Abandon your illusions and plan accordingly.)
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To: Snickering Hound
they could pay the lease and still close the shops since it's prolly cheaper than wages/etc
106 posted on 12/03/2017 10:13:21 AM PST by Chode (You have all of the resources you are going to have. Abandon your illusions and plan accordingly.)
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To: jeffersondem

There is no lifetime appointment to the federal judiciary.


Yes, there is. Article 3, Section 1...

“The Judges, both of the supreme and inferior Courts, shall hold their Offices during good Behaviour”


107 posted on 12/03/2017 10:15:17 AM PST by hanamizu
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To: Chode

LOL - love that book.

In this case I really don’t think it is a directive 10-289 issue - but instead contract law that Starbucks agreed to when they signed the lease.


108 posted on 12/03/2017 10:16:39 AM PST by reed13k
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To: hanamizu

““The Judges, both of the supreme and inferior Courts, shall hold their Offices during good Behaviour””

Correct. During good Behaviour. This is different than a lifetime appointment.

When judges depart from good Behavior they can be removed. And it does not require a constitutional amendment.

But this never happens because voters, and the people voters send to congress, don’t enforce the constitution created by the founders. And that is the problem.


109 posted on 12/03/2017 10:21:35 AM PST by jeffersondem
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To: reed13k

they were signed in good faith, but all things change

i love seeing $B’s take in the arse i just don’t want to see overreach from the stench, er bench


110 posted on 12/03/2017 10:24:06 AM PST by Chode (You have all of the resources you are going to have. Abandon your illusions and plan accordingly.)
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To: aquila48

Breaking of the lease has always been bad business. So, if that is the basis of the judge’s decision, I agree with the logic. That would be far less worrying than if a judge had decided to make business policy decisions for a private business.


111 posted on 12/03/2017 10:24:08 AM PST by lee martell
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To: Renkluaf
Welcome to the USSR!

The state allowing you to pretend you own your business and can take profit from it but only so long as you do so within the dictates of the state is more fascist than commie.

112 posted on 12/03/2017 10:26:24 AM PST by pepsi_junkie
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To: Snickering Hound

No they can still close the stores. They just have to buyout the lease. And that is not the stated reason the lessor is citing.


113 posted on 12/03/2017 10:27:11 AM PST by EBH ( May God Save the Republic)
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To: Maceman

Rediculos. This judge could write a 555 page ruling and still be rediculos.

5.56mm


114 posted on 12/03/2017 10:30:20 AM PST by M Kehoe
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To: Chode
they could pay the lease and still close the shops since it's prolly cheaper than wages/etc

It's not the same as a lease on an apartment or storage unit, there are specific performance obligations.

You leave an empty store in a mall, it looks bad and costs the mall operator money.

And their leases are written to avoid this.

You want to cut and run when you have billions in the bank? Fine. Pay up.

115 posted on 12/03/2017 10:32:07 AM PST by Snickering Hound
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To: Maceman

This is not a Judge’s decision!


116 posted on 12/03/2017 10:32:30 AM PST by BobNative
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To: Maceman

Lose all products. Bring in a hot plate, a box of Lipton tea bags and styrofoam vending machine cups. One employee to dispense the lukewarm water, to provide the tea bag and to collect the $9.50 per cup fee.


117 posted on 12/03/2017 10:35:32 AM PST by Sgt_Schultze (When your business model depends on slave labor, you're always going to need more slaves.)
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To: Maceman

Communist judge?


118 posted on 12/03/2017 10:36:18 AM PST by plain talk
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To: aquila48

Part of me says ...awe so sorry Simon. Starbucks breaks the lease, pays said fee(s) and leaves. The Teavana division is going out of business.

Starbucks gave Simon notice of intent, likely required by the contract.

Simon took them to court? Teavana staying isn’t going to save their mall, especially of those stores are not turning a profit.

We need to see the contract, but this ruling doesn’t seem appropriate/legal on the face of it.


119 posted on 12/03/2017 10:36:43 AM PST by EBH ( May God Save the Republic)
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To: lee martell

Another example of very poor if not outright misleading reporting. They bury the most salient part of the story in the last paragraph.

Imagine how different the reaction of the readers would have been if the headline had been more truthful, such as “Judge disallows Starbucks breaking of lease”.


120 posted on 12/03/2017 10:38:42 AM PST by aquila48 (Bookmark)
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