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1 posted on 12/02/2017 2:44:33 PM PST by Jim Robinson
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Proposed “working class” tax cuts ping.


2 posted on 12/02/2017 2:46:38 PM PST by Jim Robinson (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God!)
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Where do these hypothetical famines live? If they live in high tax California, they’re not able to deduct the oppressive taxes they pay to the state. So, a tax increase on their federal returns, right?


3 posted on 12/02/2017 2:48:29 PM PST by WilliamIII
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Where do you guys find the calc to run these numbers? Id like to do my own, since we’re in one of the “SALT” states...


4 posted on 12/02/2017 2:50:32 PM PST by jughandle (Big words anger me, keep talking.)
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No tax cuts for working class families? Don't let the democrats and lib media lie to you.

Fixed it.

6 posted on 12/02/2017 2:51:33 PM PST by SkyDancer ( ~ Just Consider Me A Random Fact Generator ~)
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That’s some nice savings.


8 posted on 12/02/2017 2:54:15 PM PST by BykrBayb (Lung cancer free since 11/9/07. Colon cancer free since 7/7/15. Obama free since 1/20/17. PTL ~ Þ)
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Good evening Jim, evening in Maine, afternoon in California.

Jim do you have a link for the tax calculator?

Thanks JIM,
Bob


10 posted on 12/02/2017 2:58:38 PM PST by Bob Celeste
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It depends entirely on your situation. For example, I am a single retiree with an AGI of $65K. My federal tax will probably double or triple.


14 posted on 12/02/2017 3:01:52 PM PST by proxy_user
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I’m in one of the Salt states and my taxes will be lower because I won’t have to hire someone to do my taxes


15 posted on 12/02/2017 3:02:18 PM PST by AppyPappy (Don't mistake your dorm political discussions with the desires of the nation)
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Thanks for doing the calculations, Jim.

Democrats and some on our side won’t agree, but that’s normal.


16 posted on 12/02/2017 3:03:37 PM PST by SaxxonWoods (CNN IS ISIS.)
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Yes, those would be the effective tax rates. Good work!


22 posted on 12/02/2017 3:09:20 PM PST by familyop ("Welcome to Costco. I love you." --Costco greeter in the movie, "Idiocracy")
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Maybe in california. Not for those of us that already don’t itemize.

And they eliminate the individual mandate!!!


24 posted on 12/02/2017 3:12:33 PM PST by robroys woman (So you're not confused, I'm male.)
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Fact of the matter is”if you don’t pay taxes, you can’t get a tax cut” !!!


25 posted on 12/02/2017 3:13:11 PM PST by ontap
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Advice for young couples — try to live “below your means” and not in a MacMansion. And have more kids. “Make do!” Hand-me-down clothes build strength of character. America will be stronger and better if our young people are more like this.


26 posted on 12/02/2017 3:13:18 PM PST by House Atreides (BOYCOTT the NFL, its products and players 100% - PERMANENTLY)
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You shouldn’t post stuff like that - JR may hear about it. (LOL)

We’re supposed be angry as hell about these tax cuts...at least that’s how it seems.


27 posted on 12/02/2017 3:15:22 PM PST by BobL (I shop at Walmart...I just don't tell anyone)
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I’ve seen some folks argue that it just ain’t so..
To such a degree that it all becomes confusing.

Me, I’ll trust Trump about it before some self-proclaimed smart people.

Trump didn’t make billions by being stupid about money.


28 posted on 12/02/2017 3:15:38 PM PST by humblegunner
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I must be crazy.

I just got a check for $13,000 and IRC Feds took $2k.

Ain’t 10%.

And! Whoever that MotherFICA is, I swear I’m gonna accidentally run into him with a shiv about 10-20 times...


29 posted on 12/02/2017 3:15:42 PM PST by Vendome (I've Gotta Be Me - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wH-pk2vZG2M)
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I think you’re falling for the GOP talking points that “average” taxpayers will get their taxes reduced. Your examples look simple enough. But the Senate bill is almost 500 pages. God only knows what was added/subtracted at the last minute.

Since individuals pay taxes not “averages” you need to factor in the loss of deductions like long-term medical expenses, SALT, mortgage interest, adoption credits, and others. Throw in the loss of one of these exemptions and your examples fall apart.

One has to ask oneself why a simple tax cut bill needs 500 pages and talks three lawyers to read and understand? The goal was simple rate reductions. Like the Obamacare bill, Congress loaded this thing with crony attachments to satisfy one interest or another.

We should demand more from a party that has full control of the federal government.


32 posted on 12/02/2017 3:21:13 PM PST by Oldeconomybuyer (The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.)
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The calc for a single man making $140k in CA with a $400k mortgage and paying alimony really sucks though.

Bigly.


39 posted on 12/02/2017 3:42:20 PM PST by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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What happens to deductions for 401Ks in the tax plan?


41 posted on 12/02/2017 3:44:20 PM PST by brianr10
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I think one of the things I caught was that if you don’t pay any taxes to start with, you don’t get money in hand for the child care credit. Is that right. Cuz I always thought that was a scam.


43 posted on 12/02/2017 3:47:26 PM PST by Sacajaweau
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