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MT: Bear Spray Works; Bear Saved, Hunter Injured
Ammoland ^ | 22 November, 2017 | Dean Weingarten

Posted on 11/26/2017 5:34:41 AM PST by marktwain


A hunter who was tracking a wounded elk was attacked by a grizzly. The bear chomped on his hand, then retreated. The hunter had a rifle, but chose to use bear spray instead. He got ready for the bear with the bear spray.

The bear came back.

The hunter sprayed the bear and himself. The bear retreated.

The bear came back. The bear spray was empty. They hunter threw the empty can at the bear.  The bear retreated.

Having expended the potential for bear spray defense, the hunter readied his rifle.

They bear did not come back.

From krtv.com:

He put up his arms to fend off the attack, but the charging grizzly bit his right wrist. He threw himself on his back and rolled to his stomach so the bear would maul his backpack instead of his ribs.

The bear backed off and circled back into the brush, out of Kiedrowski's sight, which he said gave him time to ready his bear spray.

“I got really quiet because I knew it wasn't over yet… You could hear him huffing over behind where he originated from… and then all of a sudden it came around the exact same way but this time I was actually ready for him,” he said.

Kiedrowski sprayed the bear as it charged a second time, covering the bear's face and getting some on his own as well. The grizzly shied away and circled back again. As it came back a third time, Kiedrowski realized his bear spray was empty. With his face “on fire,” Kiedrowski threw the empty can at the bear, causing it to back off into the brush, he said,

Kiedrowski said the entire attack lasted about two minutes.

He readied his rifle and made his way up


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TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: Montana
KEYWORDS: banglist; bear; bearspray; grizzlybear; mt; wildlife
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To: Lurker; SJackson
That’s an interesting definition of the word “worked”.

If you're puzzled by the tone of the "news" report, it came from a Billings TV station that, exactly as its fellow media sources in Billings, is so far left that they were rooting for the bear over the Evil Gun Carrying Hunter but will take the validation of the bear spray as a PAT.

No, sir. Those Big Time "news" folks don't like much of anything but the latest story line from the DNC Mothership, AP or (fall down in worshipful awe) the NY Times or WaPo to the point that normal folks around here don't even tune in for weather forecasts any more.

About the second time you tune in for a weather report and get an oration on GlowBullWarming (while the outside air temperature is well below freezing and the snow's coming down a couple inches an hour) the term "waste of time and electricity" does tend to come to mind....

Besides, we're 30 miles past the last Billings streetlight to the place where Roku, the internet and my very own weather station rule and Montana Open Carry is practiced.

41 posted on 11/26/2017 9:37:45 AM PST by Unrepentant VN Vet (...against all enemies, foreign or domestic...)
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To: SIDENET
Yep, my “bear spray” comes out of a S&W Model 29.

When I was young there were no bear in the northern part of Lower Michigan. When I go home now and go into the woods my Model 29 is always on my side and my wife carries her 45 ACP.

42 posted on 11/26/2017 10:30:21 AM PST by OldMissileer (Atlas, Titan, Minuteman, PK. Winners of the Cold War)
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To: SIDENET; JoeProBono

I bought mine in 1982 and it has the 6” barrel.


43 posted on 11/26/2017 10:34:49 AM PST by OldMissileer (Atlas, Titan, Minuteman, PK. Winners of the Cold War)
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To: marktwain

You found your source.


44 posted on 11/26/2017 11:24:31 AM PST by gundog (Hail to the Chief, bitches.)
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To: marktwain

He may have had the rifle at ready and been taken by surprise. Hard to swing a rifle around when the bear is already on you. As big as they are the can strike like a snake.


45 posted on 11/26/2017 11:33:52 AM PST by dangerdoc
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To: gundog; All

You found your source.


Yes I did. I feel very confident using that quote now. Professor Tom Smith is one of the two authors who started all the “bear spray is more effective than firearms” nonsense.

The two studies commonly cited to show this do nothing of the sort. They use completely different criteria for success. Firearm cases are cherry picked so badly the authors say the percentages would be better, if they had used numerous other cases available to them.

Cases that counted as successes for spray would not be counted at all for firearms.

You have to carefully read both studies to see all the statistical legerdemain going on.

The biggest trick is using the two studies as if they studied the same thing, when they are wildly different.

The authors refuse to release their data sets. This is what passes for science in the days of “climate change” alarmism.


46 posted on 11/26/2017 2:11:55 PM PST by marktwain (President Trump and his supporters are the Resistance. His opponents are the Reactionaries.)
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To: marktwain

Yeah, I hear ya. Sure, pepper spray works, sometimes. I could argue that singing to a bear might thwart an attack, sometimes, but I’m not doing the research. Black bears usually run away from me. But I’ve trailed wounded ones, and a 30-06 feels pretty puny and way too long in the brush. Grizzly? I’ve never seen one, but I’m inclined to believe that if one were charging, I’d feel undergunned with whatever I had.


47 posted on 11/26/2017 2:29:10 PM PST by gundog (Hail to the Chief, bitches.)
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To: wgmalabama

LOL!


48 posted on 11/26/2017 6:11:52 PM PST by <1/1,000,000th%
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To: Blue Jays

Not for nuthin’ yet depending on that hunter’s age, how quickly injury was treated, and his physical health...he could STILL conceivably lose that hand.

49 posted on 11/27/2017 9:11:23 AM PST by Blue Jays ( Rock hard ~ Ride free)
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