Posted on 11/21/2017 7:31:21 PM PST by Kaslin
The Little Sisters of the Poor, represented by the Becket Fund for Religious Liberty, asked the 19th Circuit Court of Appeals Monday to prevent California and Pennsylvania in their attempt to roll back President Trump’s October 6th broadening of religious exemptions for groups, like the Little Sisters, with religious and moral objections to covering contraception.
California Attorney General Xavier Becerra sued the Trump administration immediately following the new religious exemptions to the Obamacare contraceptive mandate. The lawsuit claimed the rule change was unconstitutional because it targets and harms women by denying their Fifth Amendment rights to equal protection under the law and that it allows employers to use their religious beliefs to discriminate against employees.
Pennsylvania sued the Trump administration over the change shortly after.
“Millions of women could be denied needed contraceptive care against the advice of science, public health and medical professionals,” Pennsylvania Attorney General Josh Shapiro said at a press conference he held at a Planned Parenthood Southeastern Pennsylvania clinic in Philadelphia to announce the lawsuit.
“Sadly Josh Shapiro and Xavier Becerra think attacking nuns is a way to score political points,” Becket Law’s Senior Counsel Mark Rienzi commented on the lawsuits. “These men may think their campaign donors want them to sue nuns, but our guess is most taxpayers disagree. No one needs nuns in order to get contraceptives, and no one needs these guys reigniting the last administration’s divisive and unnecessary culture war.”
"These States are specifically targeting religious groups. Pennsylvania has never required anyone to provide contraceptives,” Rienzi told reporters on a press call Tuesday. “Now Pennsylvania is claiming religious groups have to provide these services."
"Legally there is no good argument for what these states are doing," he added.
“We just want to be able to continue our religious mission of caring for the elderly poor as we have over 175 years,” Mother Loraine Marie Maguire with the Little Sisters of the Poor commented Tuesday. “We pray that these state governments will leave us alone and let us do our work in peace.”
The nuns, who care for the elderly poor in the U.S., finally began to see some relief along with other nonprofit religious organizations that had been involved in a five-year long lawsuit against the Obama administration over the contraceptive mandate.
Paying for or supporting the use of contraception is contrary to fundamental Catholic moral teaching. The Obama administration offered the groups an accommodation that would delegate the contraception coverage to a third party, but they objected that the process still left them complicit in the coverage.
Their case was remanded to appeals courts with direction from the Supreme Court that the Obama administration and the organizations work out a compromise. Rienzi told reporters on the press call that that original lawsuit is still ongoing with the next update expected in mid-December. He added that the Supreme Court’s injunction in that case still applies which making it less likely that the states’ new lawsuits will succeed.
I completely agree with you about “homosexual marriage”.
and have adults teaching lies and vice to children
To legalize X behind closed doors is not to teach X to children - even if there are some who support both.
We only need “sodomy” police in the parks or public bathrooms
Ah, then we agree. The right to do X certainly does NOT imply the right to do X in public.
You don’t legalize any “vice” ever, behind closed doors either. How dumb. Validation for doing irrational nihilistic acts is the perview of free will . A Justice system ONLY promotes “public virtue” as stated by Montesquieu and Justice Marshall, etc.
You seem just a little dense on this point. All evil acts can NEVER be put into any legal code or a “Just” (virtuous) Law—period. Otherwise, with evil people you have to created a zillion “Laws” to control EVERYTHING or else there is chaos. It makes laws irrational to promote evil and ALL unjust, “evil” law is “null and void” (in Natural Law theory).
Without virtue in people it is NOT possible to have a free society. Freedom is NOT possible without morality (Christianity or the 10 Commandments). It is why the 10 Commandments were put into all court rooms before the Communists banned Christianity from the public square and public schools so they could force Satanism and paganism and their rites of sodomy and baby-killiing into minds of little children to destroy virtue formation and control (warp) their minds-—to normalize evil behavior.
Ask any 12 year old girl today from a public school and the conditioned, controlled girl will regurgitate “there is a “Right” to kill our own genetic offspring because it is inside our own body” It is against Natural Law, reason, science and is immoral (evil). It is actually Satanism—a religion—a worldview which is promoted inside ALL public schools today—as they BANNED the only worldview which created the Age of Reason, Modern Science, the US Constitution and our Justice System—Christanity, although the Constitution states there is NO infringement on the freedom of religion by the State or Feds (but they do it anyhow!!!)
Odd to literally have the FORCE OF LAW to promote irrationality and an evil worldview that is antithetical to the Christian worldview and flips 2000 years of worldview back to the irrational ideologies of pagans and totalitarians and slavers and pederasts, like in Plato’s Republic (communism).
Where is the freedom of religion and the freedom to raise our own children? The unconstitutional Marxist brainwashing system (publik schools) is a MAJOR problem and complete violation of Natural Law and Natural Duties and Natural Rights. It is disgusting—the fascism and mind control of little children today=and evil parents hand their little children gladly to the perverts who shape their worldview for life.
That's the latest of your many straw men. To refrain from legislating against X is not to "validate" X.
All evil acts can NEVER be put into any legal code or a “Just” (virtuous) Law—period.
To legalize is simply to have no law against - it requires no positive law.
Without virtue in people it is NOT possible to have a free society.
Law cannot create virtue in people.
Intact even in the absence of laws against private consensual adult vice.
No. Programming destroys the mind and eliminates free will exactly as Fichte stated over 200 years ago. If you take a child and put them in an artificial system (outside the Natural Family) in early years and isolated from Natural, loving (virtuous) human interactions, vocabulary, concepts of male and female and self (identity), you literally destroy the mapping of their brain—you warp them and dehumanize them in large degrees.
Complete dehumanization was what the Romanian orphans experienced. When you scanned their brain there were no neurons present in vast areas. They were incapable their entire life of making flourishing human connections with others—like they had an IQ of 30 when they could have been complete normal adults. All vice forces outside control of people which destroys free will (and, thus, individual freedom).. It is why addictions are impossible for some people to break—they have no virtue formation—and can’t resist their environment controlling them. That is why the State promotes vice 24/7-—to make happy slaves of the masses and why Just Law never allows promotion of vice-—people are weak and take the lazy way most times-—if they have no virtue formation. It is why with the Marxist system of “welfare”, it destroyed the Black family—because little black boys had no good role models but Hollyweird which intentionally tries to addict and control the masses and make them so ignorant, emotions control therm for life-—no reason—no free will..
Only virtue is where free will and inside control of base emotions exist.
If you take a child and put them in an artificial system (outside the Natural Family) in early years
The absence of laws against private consensual adult vice does not take a child and put them in an artificial system (outside the Natural Family) in early years.
Just Law never allows promotion of vice
The absence of laws against private consensual adult vice does not promote vice.
Natural in Natural Law Theory means “God’s Design of Humans.” We were designed to be and act certain ways to flourish and have a future as Adam and Eve personified. Most equal best way to raise children-—one mother and one father both devoted to children throughout their childhood so they are not traumatized (destroyed/raped/killed, etc) Biological connections make children MUCH safer in the home. Rape, abuse, etc., goes up over 20 percent when you introduce “step” parents or boyfriends. Traumatized children become criminals a lot of time and destroy civil societies.
Vice like sodomy, never creates children, so I don’t know what your point is?
Evil people usually kill their babies before they are even born—or they never stick around to raise therm-—since they are evil and don’t believe in Natural Duties (virtue). The ability to love and connect ONLY comes from two loving parents, biological connections are the safest and best and connects child with the past and traditions (wisdom) -—otherwise, children can’t even understand the facts of life and have common sense (understand Natural Law and how to become a man or woman). They become like the fatherless boy, Manson, whose prostitute mother tried to sell him for drugs when he was two. They are warped and are incapable of virtue.
Children don’t just need physical protection from both parents to be normal as God Designed-—but they need their MINDS protected the most and that takes loving, bonded parents-—otherwise children become sociopaths.
PS. Going to my brother’s families house now for Thanksgiving. Got to go. Have a nice day!!!
So why do you keep bringing up children? My only point on this thread has been: The absence of laws against private consensual adult vice is not contrary to just law, but is rather demanded by the fact that, as you put it, "Government is Evil (All the Founders knew this) because government is force. That is why is has to be limited—contained".
There is no future in any culture without children and the transmission of virtue with the wisdom of the age. It is called nihilism and is a dead end to cultures.
Selfish, nihilistic people don’t create futures in any society.....plus, they are not free. You seem to think Freedom can exist without Virtue. It is not possible.
You are always talking about “Freedom” and “Free Will” and you can’t understand those concepts at all. Of course, to do so, you would have to understand 1500 years of philosophy and it actually takes virtue to understand it..
Who said anything about no children? Few if any men and women who engage in sodomy do so exclusively - and same-sex-attracted people probably won't have children even if same-sex activity were eliminated (and we might not want them to anyway).
You seem to think Freedom can exist without Virtue.
No, that's your misinterpretation - I maintain only that law can't create virtue, and that "Government is Evil (All the Founders knew this) because government is force. That is why is has to be limited—contained".
it actually takes virtue to understand it..
And here come the personal attacks - I don't support laws against private consensual adult vice so I must have no virtue. What an ugly and un-Christian accusation to make (and irrational to boot).
You do have problems understanding my points, don’t you? Misreading what I write and insulting my profound Christianity when you don’t know a damn thing about virtue and vice and Rule of Law is not very “Christian” of you——but since you are so devoid of understanding theology, you are obviously not a Christian since you can’t understand Jesus’s worldview —can you? That is what made Western Civilization so perfect, the application of Christianity to Natural Law Theory-—Faith and Reason by Aquinas—creating the highest, most profound level of philosophy and theology in history of mankind. Never more perfect (G.K.Chesterton).
I guess I should have QUIT posting and wasting my time trying to explain things when it was impossible to penetrate the thick fog.
By the way, St. Augustine stated that YOU have as many MASTERS as you have VICES......chew on that for how “free” you are or how much “free will” you have, when you practice your “fun” vices. (oxymoron again).
I'll just let your noxious spew speak for itslef and for you.
Noxious? LOL Just the unvarnished truth-—and, of course, Truth is more hated than Lies as Jesus stated himself.. You love your vices (slavery) don’t you? But, as a Christian, I will remind you AGAIN that the Truth will set you free!!! Read and educate yourself.
Proverbs 28:13 People who conceal their sins will not prosper, (True, Cicero’s/Locke’s point—right from the Bible) but if they confess and turn from them, they will receive mercy.
Colossians 3:5-6 So put to death the sinful, earthly things lurking within you. Have nothing to do with sexual immorality, impurity, lust, and evil desires. Don’t be greedy, for a greedy person is an idolater, worshiping the things of this world. Because of these sins, the anger of God is coming.
Fichte started this concept-—and knew the NWO would be possible as long as the elites got total control of textbooks and MSM which they got by 1916. Fichte wrote this in 1810 and the Deep State was founded before then.
“Education should aim at destroying free will so that after pupils are thus schooled they will be incapable throughout the rest of their lives of thinking or acting otherwise than as their school masters would have wished ... The social psychologist of the future will have a number of classes of school children on whom they will try different methods of producing an unshakable conviction that snow is black. When the technique has been perfected, every government that has been in charge of education for more than one generation will be able to control its subjects securely without the need of armies or policemen.”
After the mass indoctrination , children have no ability to “think” outside their program: transhumanism.
Colossians 3:5-6 So put to death the sinful, earthly things lurking within you. Have nothing to do with sexual immorality, impurity, lust, and evil desires. Don’t be greedy, for a greedy person is an idolater, worshiping the things of this world. Because of these sins, the anger of God is coming.
Nothing there about a general authority of government to punish sin.
Speaking of Scripture verses - here's what the person with truly "profound Christianity" says about themselves:
I see in my members another law waging war against the law of my mind and making me captive to the law of sin that dwells in my members. Wretched man that I am! Who will deliver me from this body of death? (Romans 7:23-24)
You just don’t know Natural Law Theory. That’s all. You can’t understand the philosophy that developed all the concepts of free will, freedom, private property rights, individualism, virtue, and true natural rights only come from God. And of course, it is ONLY the Christian God—the dominate religion for over 1000 years in Western Civilization that formed the ideas of Common Law and Magna Carta and the Lockean theory which created Rule of Law and the US Constitution and Justice System.
Philosphy backs ALL those ideas-—and it is a collection that spans over 2400 years and it takes years to understand after classes and study and intense reading. I’ve gone back to school and taken college courses on Natural Law Theory from a Jesuit, no less (LOL).
Read Chesterton sometime...another brilliant mind who could spot the evil George Bernard Shaw and the flaws in his “thinking” when the World glorified him.
“The Declaration of Independence dogmatically bases all rights on the fact that God created all men equal; and it is right; for if they were not created equal, they were certainly evolved unequal. There is no basis for democracy except in a dogma about the divine origin of man.” (the genius GK Chesterton)
Don’t cover birth control for men or women.
Such thick fog in your area tonight?
Just reread my first posts to you. It is stated there-—Sin is the same as Vice-—since Western Civ and our US Constitution and “Justice” (virtue) System is ONLY based on the Christian worldview.
I don’t have time to repeat myself. It is impossible to “punish” all sin-—just the cardinal sins like murder, theft (except by government) and rape. For hundreds of years in USA, sodomy used to be one of the major sins punished until the evil Marxists and Fabians like Keynes—the ones raping all the little boys in their homosexual orgies—took over the institutions to make Boys into Girls and Up into Down, Liberalisml into totalitarianism, and vice into virtue for the NWO and Ba’al worship.
Satanism and paganism are the “faiths” promoted in our irrational, evil Vice System now since we are Post-Constitutonal now as Judge Napolitano stated in his books.
Alabama, Arizona, North Carolina, and Rhode Island never had laws against marital sodomy.
until the evil Marxists and Fabians like Keynes—the ones raping all the little boys in their homosexual orgies—took over the institutions to make Boys into Girls
Several states legislatively repealed laws against heterosexual but not homosexual sodomy: Kansas in 1969, Texas, Montana, and Kentucky in 1974, and Arkansas in 1977.
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