Posted on 11/19/2017 5:45:11 AM PST by rellimpank
--(snip)
"There is even more to the story: CDC data also show that within our nations cities, black Americans are, on average, eight times more likely to be killed by firearms than those who are white. The rate of death by gun homicide for black people exceeds those among whites in all 50 states, but there is tremendous variation in the magnitude of this disparity.
In 2015, a black person living in Wisconsin was 26 times more likely to be fatally shot than a white person in Wisconsin. At the same time, a black person in Arizona was only 3.2 times more likely than a white person to be killed by a gun.
The combination of being black and living in an urban area is even more deadly. In 2015, the black homicide rate for urban areas in Missouri was higher than the total death rate from any cause in New York state.
These differences across states occur primarily because the gap between levels of disadvantage among white and black Americans differs sharply by state. For example, Wisconsin the state with the highest disparity between black and white firearm homicide rates has the second-highest gap of any state between black and white incarceration rates, and the second-highest gap between black and white unemployment rates. Racial disparities in advantage translate into racial disparities in firearm violence victimization."
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There’s a statistic I read recently, I forget the exact numbers but it was something like 98% of all gun crime happens in 2% of the nations counties. In Michigan, 90% of all gun crime comes from ONE zip code (in Detroit).
One naturally assumes the gun crime numbers are evenly spread across the USA but it just isn’t the case. When I point this out to foreigners they’re shocked. They find it hard to believe that I’ve not, personally, witnessed gun crime. I grew up in England, so when I say that the USA is less violent than Europe they think I’m nuts (but I have credibility). Then I point to how football (soccer) games have to be policed (outside USA), even today. In many places, especially England, home and away fans require absolute segregation, otherwise they’d tear each other apart after every goal - there’s a wall of security between them. They find it shocking when I tell them I can go to ANY sport here and sit wherever I please and cheer as I like, nothing will happen. It’s a very interesting cultural indicator that is easy to overlook.
Who in their right mind would want to control a crime-ridden, vermin infested ghetto?
Where are the black “leaders” calling for blacks to become productive citizens?
Where are the black “leaders” calling for blacks to clean up their own neighborhoods?
Where are the black “leaders” calling for blacks to police their own and rid their neighborhoods of the criminal elements?
Enquiring minds want to know!
I agree: drugs are the common denominator to many violent urban issues.
But what is this “opioid epidemic” nonsense? Always thought an epidemic involves communicable disease or pestilence ? Another attempt to make the folks who choose to use drugs victims instead of willing participants? I don’t advocate throwing drug users in jail but one of the first steps to kicking any habit (alcohol, drugs, tobacco) is to own up to the addiction and go forward from there. This victim mentality is counterproductive and dangerous in my opinion.
If Black Lives Matter, they could stop killing each other.
“the culture of violence in rap music”
We might as well face it: “black community” is synonymous with “culture of violence.”
There may be some blacks somewhere who have not been steeped in the black culture of violence, but there aren’t enough of them to invalidate the rule.
“Where are the black leaders”
Well, Cosby did all that, and look what happened to him.
Fixed.
Isn’t it about time the responsible black folks ran the scalawags and carpet-baggers out of town?
“Isnt it about time the responsible black folks ran the scalawags and carpet-baggers out of town?”
Those scalawags are not just Duke of Bilgewater bad; they are Satan-caliber evil. They won’t just torture and kill you; they’ll come after your wife and kids, your parents, the horse you rode in on, and everybody who even looks like any of the foregoing.
What are the odds that the next Charles Martel or Jan Sobieski will come out of one of our black slums? How do you form that kind of character in the black culture of ignorance and violence?
Well, if responsible people are not to be found in the black communities so devastated by crime, we are truly lost.
What will happen when the out-of-control criminal element migrates to the suburbs in search of greener pastures?
Our FRiend and fellow FReeper Matt Bracken has some very well-reasoned arguments re:the future in a societal breakdown situation.
See Bracken: The CW2 Cube Mapping The Meta-Terrain Of Civil War Two at http://westernrifleshooters.blogspot.com/2010/07/bracken-cw2-cube-mapping-meta-terrain.html and one of his [many] published articles, “The CHOWM Must Die! The Rise Of True Progressive Identity Politics” at https://westernrifleshooters.wordpress.com/2017/01/24/bracken-the-chowm-must-die-the-rise-of-true-progressive-identity-politics/.
I highly recommend that you and EVERY FReeper search out and read Matt’s essays, articles and novels. He is prescient, IMHO. Start at https://www.enemiesforeignanddomestic.com/.
He does not disappoint!
“Well, if responsible people are not to be found in the black communities so devastated by crime, we are truly lost.”
I didn’t say there were no responsible people, but going to all-out shooting war with Satanic evil requires more than a sense of responsibility.
The “responsible people” need to take charge before the SHTF, then!
“The responsible people need to take charge before the SHTF, then!”
If you had a hundred black Rambos in every black slum, heavily armed and highly motivated...no, forget it, the police would step in and stop them.
Better to let vicious criminals victimize the innocent than to allow vigilantes to put things right, don’cha know.
Measures short of that would be inadequate. To put things right, you would have to make the bad people dead, and we don’t have the nads for that.
You have made your point: If there were a solution, the problem would have already been solved?
I guess all we can do is wait for something to happen that triggers CW II?
“I guess all we can do is wait for something to happen that triggers CW II?”
I’m not claiming to be any kind of prophet, or even to see things with much clarity.
If you have a plan, I’m all ears.
I guess it is too late for the Golden Rule?
“I guess it is too late for the Golden Rule?”
I’m down with it. See if you can convince the forces of evil to go that way.
Well, I am not one for “turning the other cheek,” and somehow, I think the Golden Rule ship has sailed.
We’ll just have to let it play out, hope for the best while preparing for the worst and support the good guys however we can.
Perhaps the forces of Good CAN overcome the forces of Evil?
“Perhaps the forces of Good CAN overcome the forces of Evil?”
More easily than they can talk the forces of evil into doing right, I think.
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