Roy Moore accuser describes alleged encounter: [tr]

WBMA ^ | 11/13/2017 | WBMA

[Cementjungle]

The sobbing is ridiculous and this doesn’t sound like the tentative groooming stories we already heard. This one is making him out to be a Ted Bundy style predator. Over the top.

This one is a classic Gloria Alled one... her script and coaching is showing on this one.

[MortMan]

One thing that really bothers me is when Gloria Allred is the attorney. She has a history of dredging up such fake accounts.

Another thing is the lack of allegations from any time since then.

If he did do either of the 2 (not five) acts that are depraved with which he is accused, he should step aside. However, the 14 year old’s account is not credible, and the accuser has a history of false accusations. Not enough is known regarding this latest accuser - but the details do not fit with what has been stated by others.

It helps to remember that old-time southern values meant a man became able to support a family before he sought a wife - often from those 10-20 years younger. I’m trying to find the age of his long-time wife on line, but without success.

[Yaelle]

I think I understood you to say yesterday, you had a similar experience. If so, did you report the crime? Did you wait for many years? Do you consider it reasonable for someone to make such allegations just a few days before the alleged perp is about to win an election?

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Agree with you. Never told, never reported, didn’t want to get in trouble, didn’t want my parents to know and be hurt, wasn’t sure how bad it really was, etc. in college when I mentioned it, friends said it was no big deal, and the shrink there said I needed to go straight to the cops. My friends Pooh poohed that. I went with the friends.

I never spoke up until he was busted a few years ago molesting many young girls as young as Preschool age. Until I found out in the news that he was still molesting, I had hoped and prayed he had stopped way back when. He had daughters, and grand daughters. I regret I never said anything earlier, if I could have prevented other girls from being hurt. I must wear that guilt for life.

It is wrong to come out right before the election with this stuff. I agree. It is a political smear. And this last one, which I’ve now heard, is RIDICULOUS. What will girl #5 say, that Moore attacked her with knives and sold photos of her to child porn??? Each story has a careful raising of the bar to more extreme violent behavior.

[Yaelle]

His wife was young when they married, I think 22? This whole thing has gotten so out of hand, with Turtle et al calling him guilty for the seriousness of the charge alone.

[MortMan]

There are serious rumors that Turtle is the source of the original allegation - because Moore has vowed not to support Yertle as senate majority leader.

[bluecollarman]

Never mind I see he signed it in Christmas 1977.

[HollyB]

File a law suit or STHU.

[Yaelle]

If only someone had the balls to accuse Yertle of ANYTHING seedy.

[unlearner]

“I regret I never said anything earlier, if I could have prevented other girls from being hurt. I must wear that guilt for life.”

I don’t think so. The feelings of guilt, shame, and fear are part of the damage done by perps. And it is very difficult for someone hurt this way to have that kind of courage. It usually takes a lot of work to find healing. Yes, you might have missed an opportunity to be heroic and stop a dangerous criminal sooner, but expecting yourself to do this is not reasonable.

You should not feel guilty for not being that hero. You did what you could when you could. And you gained insight. And eventually he faced justice.

Just be careful in this political scenario with Roy Moore. The most powerful, rich, and elite of the world are involved in organized crime involving child abuse. They know how to get away with their crimes. And they know how to manipulate and stir people up against innocent people.

When there are accusations of sexual assault, it is the natural instinct of normal, healthy people to have feelings of fight or flight. We have a desire to protect and comfort victims. We have a desire to bring righteous judgment on the wicked. But these psychopathic predators are skilled at manipulating these very sentiments in their favor.

Don’t believe for one second that a woman like Allred cares for children. She is at war with children. Same with Hillary. Same with all the Dems and RINOs. She has one daughter, Lisa Bloom, who is in the same shakedown racket. She helped attack Bill O’Reily but helped defend Harvey Weinstein. Notice a pattern here?

A number of years ago I was in a legal dispute with someone who was friends with a rich, powerful, dirty attorney. They met in the adult entertainment industry, and it turned out later he was a mob lawyer. He tried to invent similar accusations against me as what is happening to Moore, except it was just one person. But then he also tried to use that I had worked for a school district (it was in IT and I did not deal with students except for some tiny security issues) to claim I was seeking out children by taking a job with schools. The entire goal was simply to threaten to create a libelous public record that would show up whenever I applied for jobs, etc. There was no basis for this, and I was able to shut it down, but not without spending money on attorney fees.

This same attorney got caught up in an FBI sting on the crime family he worked for, and he is now disbarred and in federal prison. The crimes revolve around their stealing ownership of a mortgage company from the shareholders. Interestingly, one of the wiretap records in the public court documents for the case indicated that there were threats that if anyone double-crossed them, they would be tortured and their children would be turned into prostitutes.

So you can see how both of our experiences may shape how we see these accusations against Moore.

[boatbums]

I can't help but think a lot of these women have forgotten the story of "The Little Boy (girl) Who Cried Wolf".

Not saying no one has legitimate grievances, but this is sounding more and more like political witch hunting and power playing while the iron is hot and over-saturation. It's a shame!

[Yaelle]

Thank you for your kind words. I would hate to see a good man railroaded by shocking accusations and gullible idiots who suck the nipples of mass media news all day. I understand how our perspectives shape the way we view these stories.

I don’t know about Judge Moore. Without allies he may be toast now innocent or guilty. This isn’t a legal issue as the statutes of limitation have run out. It’s a moral, public perception issue. He had one chance to clear his name on Friday and he did a poor job. I could have handled his Hannity interview better than he did, chosen better responses to the softballs, EITHER WAY (if he was innocent or if he did date teens). I would have used honesty and I would have made the subj3ct moot thereafter. Can’t be done if he was a serial Pedo predator, though (which I am in No Way Saying he is). A guy like that would be terrified the many other victims will come out and Cosby him.

[Yosemitest]

Read this:

IT’S A FAKE!
Analyst Says Judge Roy Moore Signature Inside Gloria Allred Accuser’s Yearbook Was FORGED



The sevens in 1977 to the right of “Christmas,” are very different from the sevens in the date (12-22-77) above “Old Hickory House.”

“Look at the two versions of the number “7,” tweeted Wictor.

“”12-22-77” and “Olde Hickory House” were written by a different person,” he added.

Next, [Thomas] Wictor points out “the “R” and “y” in “Roy,”” are not written the same way.

The inflection of the “Y” is more pronounced in Moore’ signature as Chief Justice. The “R” is noticeably longer in the signature of Chief Justice, as well.

“During his legal career, Judge Moore became the first full-time Deputy District Attorney in Etowah County, Alabama, and served in this position from 1977 until 1982. In 1984, Judge Moore undertook private practice of law in Gadsden, Alabama,” states Moore’s bio on his campaign website.

“The accuser to this day calls him the District Attorney. He was NEVER District attorney. He was DEPUTY DA. DDA,” says Wictor. ... "

[Candor7]

Oh how they hate Steve Bannon! Steve should be doubling down on these RepubliKan Senatorial cowards! Bannon and Moore are seen as the hole in the dike that needs to be plugged. TOO LATE CRUZ BOTS. Yertle the Turtle McConnell must resign....his role is to deny Trumps agenda!

Lets do a Hillary on the 4 brave women, and publicly call them sluts who wished they’d been f**ked so they could have told sooner.

Now the money is so good they are speaking up simply to keep a horny conservative from winning again? ( Only leftists are allowed to be horny, not conservatives.)

The left is desperate. So are the RINOs in Washington who are calling for Moore to step down. And now plan to keep him from being seated if he wins ( which he likely will do.)The hatred for Bannon is STRONG, Buahahahahaha!

The femino-nazi brave (sic) women suffer from Sexualitis, a newly discovered leftist mental condition similar to Trump Derangement Syndrome that makes them falsely remember that they had been f**ked by a conservative politician who looks like he is going to win.They are not brave, they are cowardly whores.The money must be good, real good.

Femino-nazi slut, sexual shake down artist prostitutes!
Real hookers would seem clean in their company, at least they do the deed they are paid for. Not these “4 brave women.”

And people take this seriously?

Surely the good people of Alabama will NOT!

And The GOPe Senate Swamp critters ? They need to represent the People or resign, instead of looking around to see who screwed who 40 years ago.

I don’t know about you all, but I am with Bannon!

[Prince of Space]

Nobody walks around with their yearbook in December! And they don’t take it to work with them so random people can sign it either. Lame!

[Prince of Space]

So she wasn’t actually IN the yearbook? Because that would be the perfect pic to show, doncha think?

[Captain Peter Blood]

Most people I knew did this, you got the year books at the end of the year and you around for the next few days at school getting people to sing. Then most put them up never to look at them again until a reunion came around.

[RegulatorCountry]

Auld Lang Syne?

[Sam Gamgee]

Well, this IS something then. If her client is willing to go before Congress under oath. What is the penalty for lying under oath before Congress?

[Scott from the Left Coast]

It depends on who you are Clapper, Clinton and numerous others from the Obama administration have lied regularly to Congress, and Congress thanked them for their lies.

I suspect this falls under the same category to the swamp-dwellers.

[dforest]

I would agree. I was just wondering why her esteemed (ha) lawyer didn’t have the yearbook photo enlarged. Why use a drawing?

I wonder who is paying for that lawyer and how did that lawyer find this old woman?