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Is Demon Possession Real?

Posted on 11/10/2017 7:35:18 AM PST by pinochet

Many people have tried to explain away the mass shootings in Texas and Las Vegas as mental illness. I can assure you that 99.9 percent of mentally ill people could never kill anyone.

People are ruling out a spiritual component to these shootings. The mass shooters reflect the classic behavior one should expect of armed people who are demon-possessed. I invite Freepers who are mature Christians, and who have developed the ability to do spiritual discernment, to comment on this issue.

Then there is the issue of Judge Roy Moore of Alabama, the most committed Christian to be a Senate candidate over the last generation. The man is on fire for the Lord. This has resulted in the most vicious media defamation campaign that has ever been launched against a senate candidate in recent history. Could he cause a national spiritual revival if he is elected to the Senate, and the strongholds of demon possession in Washington DC do not want him in the senate?


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To: pinochet

Yes, but not as portrayed on TV or in the movies.


61 posted on 11/10/2017 9:20:30 AM PST by ducttape45 (Every Saint has a past, Every Sinner has a Future!)
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To: chuckles

Your comments are excellent..

“My belief is that the spirit world is in another dimension.”

Just as two or more TV channels can exist on the same cable at the same time and appear separate, so it is with Heaven. They are at different frequencies.

Heaven is right here, right now, but it exists at a different frequencies of consciousness. My Father’s Mansion has many rooms, each existing at a different frequency.


62 posted on 11/10/2017 9:23:47 AM PST by tired&retired (Blessings)
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To: MHGinTN

Earth?


63 posted on 11/10/2017 9:25:49 AM PST by Terry Mross (Liver spots And blood thinners..)
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To: pinochet

It’s real.


64 posted on 11/10/2017 9:26:11 AM PST by right way right (May we remain sober over mere men, for God really is our one and only true hope.)
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To: zot; GreyFriar

FYI


65 posted on 11/10/2017 9:27:18 AM PST by tired&retired (Blessings)
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To: captmar-vell

I thought pre- tribulation was near with Obama. Then Trump got elected and I thought I had been over reacting. Now Satan is working harder than ever. Believers are about to be tested to the max.

I don’t believe ALL of the msm and deep state are Satan worshipers. Many are being used and don’t know it. I believe the Bushes, McCain and Romney are definitely knowingly working for the evil one.


66 posted on 11/10/2017 9:32:59 AM PST by Terry Mross (Liver spots And blood thinners..)
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To: pinochet

Possession was retained in DSM-V when they updated it. It falls under the dissociative disorders category. Check out terms like “pathological possession” and “dissociative trance disorder.”


67 posted on 11/10/2017 9:36:26 AM PST by Styria
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To: Terry Mross

Totally agree with your statements


68 posted on 11/10/2017 9:37:32 AM PST by tired&retired (Blessings)
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To: gop4lyf

[From the balcony, we started sharing God’s Word. This immediately destroyed the vampires.]

Thanks for sharing, gop4lyf.

The only offensive weapon we have in the ARMOR OF GOD is the WORD. Praying the WORD, evoking the WORD in JESUS’ Name breaks demonic oppression.

Demons are out in force. They know their end is near. JESUS is coming soon. We need to put on the ARMOR OF GOD and fight the battle for the soul of America.

WHOLE ARMOR OF GOD
https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Ephesians+6%3A10-18&version=NLT

This old CARMAN VIDEO inspires me to PRESS ON!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IGKbhYmBVKs

WAR CRY SONG - “God’s Got an Army”
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w4MNT-A5FDU


69 posted on 11/10/2017 9:39:06 AM PST by stars & stripes forever (Blessed is the nation whose God is the Lord. Psalm 33:12)
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To: tired&retired
Thank you for your comment. Sometimes I think I'm all alone. I'm told most of the time how crazy I am. It feels good to get some affirmation at times. If Jesus says He will never leave us or forsake us, doesn't it make more sense that he is right in front of us less than an arm's length, rather than believe He lives out past Saturn in some galaxy far, far away. Also, we need to realize He is in the room with us watching and listening to every thought we have. Keeps me out of trouble all the time. I tell the youth in church that God is in the back seat with you watching what you are doing. Changes a bunch of attitudes.

I remember Jacob's ladder where he saw angels coming and going into heaven. We are taught that Jesus is that ladder, but in reality, He controls the ladder. When Scriptures tell us that the heavens will roll back like a scroll, could it be saying that the barrier will dissolve between earth and heaven just as the veil was torn in the Temple to remove the barrier to God?

70 posted on 11/10/2017 9:42:56 AM PST by chuckles
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To: pinochet

No devil.

Las Vegas & Texas are because

Democrat Law coerces Defenselessness.

Democrat Law kills, Gun Control murders children.

Do not complicate the simple answer.


71 posted on 11/10/2017 9:43:12 AM PST by TheNext (FBI FAKE STORY: Lone Shooter, But Died)
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To: tired&retired; zot; pinochet

Thanks for the ping. Is demon possession real? Yes, but I also believe that some people are just evil and not necessarily have an actual demon/demonic inside them, keeping the original soul/person captive.


72 posted on 11/10/2017 9:44:55 AM PST by GreyFriar ((Spearhead - 3rd Armored Division 75-78 & 83-87))
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To: tired&retired

There is a man here in Houston who works with possessed people. He doesn’t charge anything so he can’t be Sued. He believes all demonic possession is mental illness and people who were molested are possessed. And he believes objects can open the door to demons so be careful about who gives you gifts.

He also points out the demon does not own those he posesses. He uses the example he can hand you the keys to his car. You will possess the car but you will not own it.


73 posted on 11/10/2017 9:45:32 AM PST by Terry Mross (Liver spots And blood thinners..)
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To: pinochet

No, you’re not alone, pinochet. The attacks on President Trump and Christians are vicious and accelerating. We, as the Church, need to continue to pray. Take heart, though—He is coming soon!


74 posted on 11/10/2017 9:46:57 AM PST by AmericanMermaid
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To: Styria

“Possession was retained in DSM-V when they updated it. It falls under the dissociative disorders category. Check out terms like “pathological possession” and “dissociative trance disorder.””

I personally know the chair of the DSM IV committee. It is always a hot discussion on how to include but bury this topic.

I’ve attended the American Psychiatric Association Conferences for quite a few years. Last year in the Atlanta APA conference I was very surprised when the topic of possession was discussed for several hours and supported as real by many MD psychiatrists at a PTSD Treatment program forum. The same was true for the spirituality in medicine forum discussions. Didn’t hear a peep on the topic this year in the San Diego APA conference. 2018 conference is in NYC.

Demonic possession is real and much more common that people think. I too have been stung several times and must constantly stay focused on God through Jesus and do housecleaning on my soul constantly.

If reading this thread causes your body to respond in unusual ways and increased tension, I would advise pulling out and reading the Bible and heading to church.


75 posted on 11/10/2017 9:48:28 AM PST by tired&retired (Blessings)
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To: pinochet

Is Demon Possession Real?


To the extent that there are demons, yes.
In other words, no.


76 posted on 11/10/2017 9:49:13 AM PST by sparklite2 (-)
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To: alexander_busek
I don't think it's a slam dunk Occam's Razor case.

Psychiatry is still an infant and imprecise science, more about description and association than causes and cures. So saying, “Well, some parients do and others don't, we don't know why,” isn't simpler than saying, “In some instances malevolent spiritual beings may be involved.”

Now, case study:
Very intelligent (honors scholar type,) successful, kind lady. Very sweet and considerate of others. She is diagnosed as bipolar but it is controlled enough by meds that you would have to know her for a while to discern it.

She WILL not go to church, even for a academic lecture. She won't listen to excellent music if it's church-related. Holst's Short Festival Te Deum? No way.

She insists that no one discuss theology or philosophy in her presence. Then she makes little snide remarks about Xtian thought!

A meticulous researcher, she succumbs to all the popular errors about Catholic thought!

She says she is going to hell. She smiles, but she says it.

She is unbaptized. She doesn't have even the most common protection against demons.

So: a lovely, insightful, intelligent, generous person who becomes startlingly snarky, unfair, unscholarly, and almost phobic about church related things.

There are more observations, but this is enough to make demonic oppression (NOT possession) something which ought to be considered. The specificity, strength, and nastiness of her aversion is remarkable.

77 posted on 11/10/2017 9:49:22 AM PST by Mad Dawg (Sta, si cum canibus magnis currere non potes, in portico.)
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To: GreyFriar

“that some people are just evil”

This is one small point where I differ. Every human has a soul that is a creation of the One God and is pure. I Love that soul in everyone.

However, sometimes good souls do things that open them up to outside influence that leads them astray and causes them to act evil.

I always Love the person, but not the outside influence nor the behavior.

This is also the belief shared by Scott Peck MD in his book “People of the Lie; The psychology of evil”

It is my Love for the person’s soul that makes it unsuitable for the dark spirit to stay there when confronted. I’ve had people bark, growl and hiss at me when I just walked up to them, until the evil spirit left and then the tears flowed like rivers.

It is not me doing this.. My strength only comes from my weakness.


78 posted on 11/10/2017 9:57:25 AM PST by tired&retired (Blessings)
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To: tired&retired

I am lifted up when I read your proof of demons and how to defeat them.


79 posted on 11/10/2017 9:57:26 AM PST by Terry Mross (Liver spots And blood thinners..)
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To: tired&retired

I was under ether as a child during a tonsillectomy. I passed through a bright tunnel into the arms of countless loving people. No members of my known family had died but these were as family. They were filled with love for me but sent me back to finish my journey through life. I will return to them when I am finally called.


80 posted on 11/10/2017 9:57:33 AM PST by Louis Foxwell (Progressivism is 2 year olds in a poop fight.)
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