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The IRS treats Temporary Spousal Support precisely the same as alimony.

Every man who paid last year, and will pay going forward, is hurt by this.

Bigly.

1 posted on 11/07/2017 12:19:30 PM PST by Mariner
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To: Mariner

Good, maybe it will force some much needed change.


2 posted on 11/07/2017 12:21:18 PM PST by robertwalker62
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So if the person paying can no longer deduct it then does the recipient no longer pay taxes on it/


3 posted on 11/07/2017 12:21:26 PM PST by DoodleDawg
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If they do this, I will retire 5 years early. It will not be worth working.


4 posted on 11/07/2017 12:23:35 PM PST by Uncle Miltie (IT'S OKAY TO BE WHITE.)
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Incredible.

I didn’t know any stupid states still had alimony laws. High tax liberal states, I’m sure.

And for alimony to be a tax deduction? Even more insane.

That should be the first tax break eliminated.


5 posted on 11/07/2017 12:24:48 PM PST by Responsibility2nd
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Well, it’s not a value-added transaction, it’s just slipping money from one hand to another. It should either be taxable/deductible on both ends or neither. Otherwise, they’re collecting taxes on churning money as if it were ‘income’.


6 posted on 11/07/2017 12:25:09 PM PST by Still Thinking (Freedom is NOT a loophole!)
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Agreed, this is a huge further shaft, generally to the male, in the divorce system which is already hugely skewed against the male.


7 posted on 11/07/2017 12:26:45 PM PST by HamiltonJay
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Hell, since we’re doing our best to destroy the institution of marriage in this country, why don’t we just kill alimony?


10 posted on 11/07/2017 12:29:04 PM PST by Buckeye McFrog
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Do we let the alimony payer pay alimoney with pre-tax dollars and tax the alimony recipient by treating it as income?

Or do we let the alimony payer pay alimony with post-tax dollars and let the alimony recipient get it tax-free?

The tax-man gets a comparable bite either way, so it should make little difference to the Feds.


11 posted on 11/07/2017 12:30:33 PM PST by Ted Grant
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Will the woman be taxed on the money?

If this is done, it must apply ONLY to divorce settlements reached after the law is passed.

Too hard to understand for Republicans?


25 posted on 11/07/2017 12:39:39 PM PST by I want the USA back (Lying Media: willing and eager allies of the hate-America left.)
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To: Mariner

Not a good idea. If they want more cash make the alimony taxable at the payers rate.


27 posted on 11/07/2017 12:40:46 PM PST by McGavin999 ("The press is impotent when it abandons itself to falsehood."Thomas Jefferson)
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Over 10 years it raises only about $8 billion.

The only way I see this being a valid computation is that Alimony 'generally' flows from higher income to lower income. So you make the alimony payer unable to claim an adjustment against income, thus having a higher taxable income (AGI). The alimony receiver looks to still have to include the income so the net is that there is more income being taxed.

I think that this is more than a bit in violation of the basic concepts of our tax code. As a rule the emphasis has been that all dollars are taxed but only taxed once. Yes, this is not followed in the Estate, Dividend and Capital Gains but has been a background rubric in most of the other areas. Here for Alimony, the dollar would be taxed twice, a bad thing in my book.

29 posted on 11/07/2017 12:43:27 PM PST by SES1066 (Happiness is a depressed Washington, DC housing market!)
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Regarding deductions, Congress doesn’t have the authority to tax for things that it cannot reasonably justify under its limited constitutional Article I, Section 8-limited powers imo.
"Congress is not empowered to tax for those purposes which are within the exclusive province of the States."—Justice John Marshall, Gibbons v. Ogden, 1824.


So patriots need to support state sovereignty-respecting primary candidates who will commit to making probably most (all?) federal tax deductions permanent.

In fact, patriots need to support candidates who will commit to express-laning a ConCon for the ultimate tax-reduction plan imo, repealing the 16th and ill-conceived 17th Amendments.

For those patriots concerned about a possible overthrow of the country by a pirated ConCon, note that the product of a ConCon is never a new amendment to the Constitution, but a proposed amendment that the states can either reject or ratify.

33 posted on 11/07/2017 12:47:02 PM PST by Amendment10
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A good divorce lawyer has been putting in any agreement a clause saying that if the tax code changes, the alimony is adjusted.


36 posted on 11/07/2017 12:50:33 PM PST by Mercat (I know my redeemer lives.)
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Divorce is destructive of society. The government should not be favoring it...for the same reason it should not be favoring other things that are legal but destructive of society.


61 posted on 11/07/2017 1:30:53 PM PST by spintreebob
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For many payors, saving taxes on alimony payments is the one pain relief that comes with making the payments.

Factually incorrect, not surprising coming from Yahoo. Fact is, for many payors less than half the forced at the point of a gun alimony is tax deductible.

Not only do I pay taxes on the FULL amount that I NEVER GET TO SEE in the first place, the worthless EX pay taxes on it as ordinary income too.

The fed's are double-dipping.

And then (today) I only get to deduct about 40% of the alimony from my taxes, again for money I NEVER GET TO SEE in the first place.

70 posted on 11/07/2017 1:47:59 PM PST by usconservative (When The Ballot Box No Longer Counts, The Ammunition Box Does. (What's In Your Ammo Box?))
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OUTLAW ALIMONY.


86 posted on 11/07/2017 4:29:51 PM PST by Architect of Avalon
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Couples need to learn how to stay married.


93 posted on 11/07/2017 7:33:22 PM PST by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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