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China has practiced bombing runs targeting Guam, US says
Defense News ^ | 31OCT17 | Tara Copp

Posted on 10/31/2017 4:58:26 PM PDT by familyop

U.S. military officials are concerned over China's increasing air power in the Asia-Pacific region. One activity by the Asian nation is proving especially worrisome.

JOINT BASE PEARL HARBOR-HICKAM, Hawaii — China has practiced bombing runs targeting the U.S. territory of Guam, one of a host of activities making U.S. forces here consider Beijing the most worrisome potential threat in the Pacific, even as North Korea pursues a nuclear warhead.

Beyond the well-publicized military build up on man-made islands in the South China Sea, China has built up its fleet of fighters to the extent that it operates a daily, aggressive campaign to contest airspace over the East China Sea, South China Sea and beyond, U.S. military officials in the region said. China has also taken several other non-military steps that are viewed as attempts to make it much more difficult for the U.S. to operate there and defend allies in the future.

The officials described the escalatory behaviors by China in a briefing they provided to reporters traveling with Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff Gen. Joseph Dunford.

The officials said despite increased threats by North Korea as it pursues its nuclear weapons program, a conflict with North Korea is still viewed as “a fight we can win,” they said. With China, they said they “worry about the way things are going.”

China “is very much the long-term challenge in the region,” said Dunford, who was not part of the briefing. “When we look at the capabilities China is developing, we’ve got to make sure we maintain the ability to meet our alliance commitments in the Pacific.”

Over the last year Japan has scrambled 900 sorties to intercept Chinese fighters challenging Japan’s air defense identification zone, or ADIZ. In 2013 China announced borders for its own ADIZ, borders which overlapped Japan’s zone and included the disputed Senkaku Islands in the East China Sea. Since then, increased interactions between Japanese and Chinese aircraft ultimately resulted in Japan relocating two fighter squadrons to Naha Air Base on Okinawa to more easily meet the incursions, the officials said.

“We now have, on a daily basis, armed Chinese Flankers and Japanese aircraft” coming in close proximity of each other, the officials said, adding that intercepts between the U.S. and China are also increasing.

“It’s very common for PRC aircraft to intercept U.S. aircraft” these days, the officials said, referring to the People’s Republic of China.

Chinese aircraft are also testing U.S. air defense identification zones, the officials said. Chinese H-6K “Badger” bombers upgraded with 1,000 mile range air launched cruise missiles are testing U.S. defense zones around Guam.

The Badgers run “not infrequent” flights to get within range of the U.S. territory, they said.

“The PRC is practicing attacks on Guam,” the officials said.

The vast majority of the flights occur without an incident, such as a report of unsafe flying, for example. The officials said they follow U.S. Pacific Command guidance on how to respond in those events, so they do not further escalate.

Military-to-military relationships between the U.S. and China remain open, if guarded, the officials said. Both Chinese and U.S. officials meet twice a year at the Military Maritime Consultative Agreement conference, where the incursions are discussed along with other security topics.

The expanded Chinese fighter and bomber runs are just one part of the country’s effort to “win without fighting” to gradually normalize the gains China has made in the South China Sea, the officials said.

There are other pressures. For example, the officials said they estimate the People’s Liberation Army Navy has placed as many as 150,000 Chinese commercial fishing vessels under its direction, even though they are not official Chinese navy. The Chinese fishing vessels make coordinated attacks on Vietnamese fishermen, the officials said, ramming and sometimes sinking boats near the Paracel Islands. China took the territory from Vietnam in the 1970s and has militarized some of the islands. The area remains a traditional fishing area for the Vietnamese.

Taken together, China’s activities suggest it is preparing to defend expanded boundaries, the U.S. officials worry.

“I think they will be ready to enforce it when they decide to declare the Nine-Dash line as theirs,” one of the officials said, referring to the territorial line China has identified that would notionally put the entire South China Sea under Chinese control if enforced.

If unchallenged, the U.S. officials worry that China could slowly force countries away from what they describe as the “rules based order” — essentially the standing international treaties and norms — in the region and make them shift their security alliances to Beijing for their own economic survival.

Dunford said the U.S. would not allow that to happen.

“We view ourselves as a Pacific power,” Dunford said.

“There are some who try to create a narrative that we are not in the Pacific to stay,” he said. “Our message is that we are a Pacific power. We intend to stay in the Pacific. Our future economic prosperity is inextricably linked to our security and political relationships in the region.”

While all of the officials stressed that there is no imminent danger of a conflict with China, U.S. forces in the region are rethinking what a Pacific fight would look like.

“If we find ourselves in conflict out there we will be under air attack,” the official said.

One concept they shared is “agile combat employment” — dispersing the U.S. advanced fighters concentrated at air bases in Japan and scattering them to 10-15 undeveloped and highly expeditionary airstrips on islands in the region. The dispersion would require the rapid dissemination of logistics support to keep those aircraft operating at their remote locations. The Air Force has already been practicing how to disperse the fuel, most recently in their Arctic Ace exercise, the officials said.

The idea would be that the aircraft would be so dispersed that it would make it difficult for China to prioritize what it would attack.

President Donald Trump will visit the Pacific region later this week, making stops in Japan, South Korea, China, Vietnam and the Philippines. Dunford said he expected that some of the security and economic concerns generated by the increased incursions and economic pressures by China would likely come up.

“If people want to view that as a focus on China they can. But it’s based on a rules-based international order,” Dunford said. “It’s focused on our ability to advance our national interests. We’re not going to compromise in that regard.”


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Extended News; Foreign Affairs
KEYWORDS: axis; china; guam; korea

1 posted on 10/31/2017 4:58:26 PM PDT by familyop
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To: familyop

China is ruled by Yogi Bear and the 6 Boo-Boos


2 posted on 10/31/2017 5:00:34 PM PDT by butlerweave
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To: familyop

What makes this surprising?

China is a major power in the Pacific. I would expect them to do this type of thing as a readiness program just as I suspect the US has practiced bombing Beijing and Hainan island.


3 posted on 10/31/2017 5:04:39 PM PDT by Fai Mao (I still want to see The PIAPS in prison)
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To: familyop

Yes but we have 288 or so F22s. What could go wrong?


4 posted on 10/31/2017 5:10:28 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (DACA: Their dream, our nightmare... will the rule of law prevail or not?)
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To: DoughtyOne

Obama and Hillary pretty much invited China to do whatever they liked. So now Trump has to convince them that he’s a different kind of President. He’s done pretty well so far.


5 posted on 10/31/2017 5:15:18 PM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: familyop

North Korea and Iran are Russia and the ChiComs’ pawns. Putin is probably orchestrating the entire thing, including the increased nuke testing and the increased provocation.


6 posted on 10/31/2017 5:17:58 PM PDT by ETL (Obama-Hillary, REAL Russia collusion! Uranium-One Deal, Missile Defense, Nukes. See my FR page)
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To: familyop

Yet if you walk into any WalMart in America.

Or any Target. Or any KMart.

Or any tool store. Toy store. Computer store.

Cell phones.

EVERYTHING anymore, is now imported from China.

I know, not literally everything. But way, way, way too much.

In my humble opinion, anyway.

It is related to their increasing belligerence.

America needs to stop importing so much from China.


7 posted on 10/31/2017 5:21:44 PM PDT by cba123 ( Toi la nguoi My. Toi bay gio o Viet Nam.)
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To: Fai Mao
"What makes this surprising?"

It's surprising that the information was presented to the general public. It probably wouldn't be favored by most sponsors.

"China is a major power in the Pacific. I would expect them to do this type of thing as a readiness program just as I suspect the US has practiced bombing Beijing and Hainan island."

The Yellow River is beginning to run into the sea. China has started to push for expansion in ocean routes, India, etc. Considering the kind of government, the expansion is unlikely to stop. President Xi also recently consolidated and expanded his power in government.

That's no surprise, though, seeing as how so many thousands of PLA-prepped students have graduated from U.S. universities since at least the '80s. My guess is that related things will become more interesting from now, forward.


8 posted on 10/31/2017 5:25:52 PM PDT by familyop ("Welcome to Costco. I love you." --Costco greeter in the movie, "Idiocracy")
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To: familyop
[H-6K Badger with 3 cruise missiles per wing]



That middle one on the starboard wing looks like it didn't get proper maintenance.
9 posted on 10/31/2017 5:31:23 PM PDT by SaveFerris (Luke 17:28 ... as it was in the days of Lot; they did eat, they drank, they bought, they sold ......)
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To: familyop

Wouldn’t put it past the deep state to side with China to crush Trump in some way militarily


10 posted on 10/31/2017 5:31:28 PM PDT by ronnie raygun (Trump plays chess the rest are still playing checkers)
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11 posted on 10/31/2017 5:33:27 PM PDT by SaveFerris (Luke 17:28 ... as it was in the days of Lot; they did eat, they drank, they bought, they sold ......)
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To: familyop

This comes as no surprise. We ourselves probably practice (or should practice) bombing runs on Shanghai and Beijing or strategic PRC military installations. We are, after all, in a state of low-level undeclared war with China, which will only escalate over the years. No need to get your bra in a twist over this.


12 posted on 10/31/2017 5:37:12 PM PDT by AmericanInTokyo
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To: familyop

Would you expect them to do practice runs against Bermuda? Or would you expect them to practice against potential enemy targets?

These stories are laughable.


13 posted on 10/31/2017 6:24:57 PM PDT by Vermont Lt (Burn. It. Down.)
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To: familyop
I guess they could put up a few buoys and practice with them as the objective....

When one practices war skills and tests the weaponry, one uses available "assets".

Anyone who thinks China is more stupid than Crazy Fat Kim will now be worried that Guam may be tipped over by waves from Chinese bombs.

14 posted on 11/01/2017 2:49:03 AM PDT by trebb (Where in the the hell has my country gone?)
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