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LIVE: Mueller Russia Indictment --- Breaking Thread
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Posted on 10/30/2017 4:23:39 AM PDT by PghBaldy

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To: Alberta's Child

LS was also saying Podesta will be implicated


221 posted on 10/30/2017 7:12:22 AM PDT by uncbob
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To: thinden

The actual indictment is “conspiracy to DEFRAUD the United States”, not “conspiracy against the United States”.

Watch the language the MSM is using.


222 posted on 10/30/2017 7:12:30 AM PDT by Right_in_Virginia
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To: Alberta's Child

Could be.

But if you know any prosecutor..ask them if potential perps can think they are in the clear when in reality the investigation is ongoing or even about to be arrested.

Not saying they have anything to worry about. I dont know as I am not privy to investigatory material

I do know and have always said this may never touch trump.
The only thing I have been sure about is manafort..


223 posted on 10/30/2017 7:14:15 AM PDT by RummyChick
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To: Alberta's Child
LS has been saying for months that Trump and his inner circle were in the clear, but they feared that some of their former associates (Manafort and Flynn in particular) might be in trouble.

I think most of us felt that way, did we not? But what I've seen lately from that bunch is a shrill insistence that Mueller and Rosenstein were colluding with Trump, all along, to take down Hillary. With no actual evidence of this, that I could see, other than Trump promised a special prosecutor during the campaign. The fable also claims that Manafort was working for Podesta, so Podesta would therefore be the primary indictment today, with Manafort simply swept up in the process as an underling to the Podesta's.

None of this appears to be correct, starting with all the reports from the start that The Podesta Group was actually working for Manafort, not the other way around. I along with many others have been saying all along this "Mueller is a hero" claim looks like a crackpot theory that ensnared a lot of Freepers who didn't do their own due diligence, and got swept up in false hope. Either that or it's been a liberal psyop operation that may have even targeted FR since I've not seen this particular theory pretty much anywhere else.

At least that's my estimation of where we are, and how we got here. If someone has any concrete evidence that Mueller is actually investigating Hillary, I'll be happy to see it, but so far it's been nothing but far fetched fantasy, and they should probably be working in their apologies to the board instead.

224 posted on 10/30/2017 7:17:21 AM PDT by Golden Eagle (Seeking the Light)
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To: Truth29

Thank you, I didn’t know that, it gives me pause.


225 posted on 10/30/2017 7:18:04 AM PDT by The_Republic_Of_Maine (RINO politicians beware your time is coming ... SOON)
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To: uncbob

LS also said that Mueller was hired by Trump which is laughable.


226 posted on 10/30/2017 7:19:29 AM PDT by surrey
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To: Right_in_Virginia

I think “defraud” was used in regard to Manafort’s failure to pay taxes on huge sums. The indictment also referred to Manafort’s “lavish living” which struck me as bizarrely editorial in a legal document.


227 posted on 10/30/2017 7:19:32 AM PDT by GAgal
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To: rktman

“...Not according to adam schiff for brains (d-calibfornia). He knows EVERYTHING....”

Post of the day.....LMAO.


228 posted on 10/30/2017 7:20:03 AM PDT by lgjhn23 (It's easy to be liberal when you're dumber than a box of rocks.)
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To: maggief
From 2008 to 2014 MANAFORT caused the following wires, totaling over $12,000,000,

At least we won't have to hear about the Panama Papers anymore.

229 posted on 10/30/2017 7:20:52 AM PDT by itsahoot (As long as there is money to be divided, there will be division.)
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To: Right_in_Virginia

The actual indictment is “conspiracy to DEFRAUD the United States”, not “conspiracy against the United States”.

Watch the language the MSM is using.

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you’ve got a sharp eye! (or a written list of the indictments in front of you?)

I’m sure I’m guilty of posting information that I was trying to write down that was breaking from a live tv broadcast.

I had no criminal intent.

how did I do on punctuation?


230 posted on 10/30/2017 7:25:08 AM PDT by thinden
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To: maggief

>>The timing of the indictment suggests that Mueller is pursuing a legal strategy typically reserved for cases involving drug cartels and mafia families.<<

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Please elaborate if you don’t mind.

Thanks.


231 posted on 10/30/2017 7:26:59 AM PDT by Disestablishmentarian
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To: Golden Eagle

On the other side you have a whole bunch of people — probably a large majority here on FR — who insist that Mueller is part of some deep conspiracy to destroy President Trump. Apparently it never occurs to them that Mueller might just be a Federal prosecutor doing his job.


232 posted on 10/30/2017 7:27:10 AM PDT by Alberta's Child ("Tell them to stand!" -- President Trump, 9/23/2017)
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To: lgjhn23

I’m not done for the day yet. LOL!


233 posted on 10/30/2017 7:27:31 AM PDT by rktman (Enlisted in the Navy in '67 to protect folks rights to strip my rights. WTH?!)
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To: RummyChick

I frequently mentioned that real estate is used to launder money. I cant look at the indictment right now but look to see if any properties to be forfeited involve his son in law.

I remember a thread that brought up mortgages and people thought it was not relevant. It is. You can launder money through mortgages. That bankruptcy involves a curious mortgage company.


234 posted on 10/30/2017 7:29:10 AM PDT by RummyChick
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To: RummyChick

Anyone know where Podesta is right now,Im wondering if they brought him in on charges and no one ever heard about it.??


235 posted on 10/30/2017 7:30:19 AM PDT by rodguy911 (Home of the free because of the brave!MAGA!)
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To: maggief

I actually CAN’T imagine that. But her silence is good news.


236 posted on 10/30/2017 7:30:39 AM PDT by txhurl
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To: rodguy911

He should be on the radar. Not charged doesn’t mean cleared. They could be watching to see reaction..same with trumps side

I have my doubts on whether they will nail podestas..just because of clinton


237 posted on 10/30/2017 7:33:16 AM PDT by RummyChick
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To: Alberta's Child
On the other side you have a whole bunch of people — probably a large majority here on FR — who insist that Mueller is part of some deep conspiracy to destroy President Trump.

Well that is where all the actual evidence seems to lead, starting with the President's own bombastic tweets, is it not? Who are we supposed to believe, the man there to drain the swamp, or the swamp creature who covered up Fast and Furious, the IRS targeting, the Uranium sale to Russia, just to name a few?

This whole fable seems intent on trying to lend desperately needed credibility to Mueller, while setting Trump up to appear weak and ineffective for not countering him better. It's just been rammed down our throats way too hard to think there's not some motive to the story itself.

238 posted on 10/30/2017 7:34:48 AM PDT by Golden Eagle (Seeking the Light)
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To: Disestablishmentarian

>>The timing of the indictment suggests that Mueller is pursuing a legal strategy typically reserved for cases involving drug cartels and mafia families.<<

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Please elaborate if you don’t mind.

Thanks.

That statement was part of the lede to the article linked below, but that part of the lede has since been deleted and replaced with the following item in the article ...

https://www.cnbc.com/2017/10/30/former-trump-campaign-chairman-paul-manafort-indicted-as-part-of-russia-election-probe-nyt.html

Multiple law enforcement sources also told NBC News there was a statute of limitations issue in play that may have helped drive the timing of the indictments, which were handed down Friday.


239 posted on 10/30/2017 7:38:31 AM PDT by maggief
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To: Alberta's Child
Apparently it never occurs to them that Mueller might just be a Federal prosecutor doing his job.

Because there is no chance in h377 that statement is true. Well maybe it is true because Trey Gowdy has confidence in the honorable Mueller. Of course he also likes that open border congressman from Illinois. Rep. Luis Gutierrez (D-IL)

240 posted on 10/30/2017 7:39:22 AM PDT by itsahoot (As long as there is money to be divided, there will be division.)
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