Posted on 10/28/2017 4:23:12 AM PDT by rellimpank
Timothy Ward was a convicted felon barred from possessing a firearm on the night he fatally shot a man during an argument on Chicagos West Side.
Minutes after the July 2015 slaying, police stopped a light-colored van and found the suspected murder weapon a black revolver under the front passenger seat where Ward had been sitting.
The gun had been sold just four months earlier at Suburban Sporting Goods in Melrose Park, a cramped strip mall store about 10 miles from the gritty block where 25-year-old Charzelle Hayes was killed, according to Chicago police. Ballistics matched the Nagant revolver to bullets removed from Hayes body, police said.
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They just had a rough upbringing. I blame society.
That’s what the automatic background checks are for.....can’t stop someone who passes the check from going down to the corner and selling the weapon to someone else.
BTW, a "Nagant" - really? I didn't even think they made ammo for those things anymore! I wasn't sure that those things were used for anything since Lenin's nitwits murdered the Czar and his wife and kids.
once upon a time remarks like these would be carried in the Chicago Tribune ;Did anybody see them ?
Ex Milwaukee Sheriff David Clarke addresses dealing with the problems destroying black society
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Most criminals wouldn’t go thru a background check if they could pass it. They don’t want a gun that is tied to them.
Criminals go for the cheapest gun they can find. Typically that means high volume dealers. They send in a cousin or girlfriend and buy the gun for them.
The ATF doesn’t go after straw purchasers so most crooks don’t sweat it.
Rest assured the buyers have a police issued FOID card, required in Illinois.
A Nagant revolver? Give him credit for creativity.
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“...a “Nagant” - really? I didn’t even think they made ammo for those things anymore! I wasn’t sure that those things were used for anything since Lenin’s nitwits murdered the Czar and his wife and kids.”
USSR re-started o1895g revolver production during the Second World War. It wasn’t all Tokarevs and PPSh-41s.
Refinished Nagants have been imported for a number of years. Lots of surplus military ammunition has been brought in; Fiocchi and Prvi Partizan sell modern-made 7.62x38R ammunition. Haven’t examined the Fiocchi, but the PPU stuff is of good quality, Boxer primed.
Some aftermarket firms offered separate cylinders chambered in 32 ACP, but extensive fitting was required.
One click above Starter's Pistol. But probably better than some of the pot metal .32s I've seen lately.
As you may have guessed, I'm a bit of a firearms snob..(if it ain't got matching numbers, it ain't a Luger..)
“... not exactly a premier firearm, ... like those old Webleys we used to see in .38 S&W Short years ago. One click above Starter’s Pistol. ...(if it ain’t got matching numbers, it ain’t a Luger..)
To judge by the items that crossed my bench when I was employed in gun repair, Soviet firearms may have been several notches below premier, but were not of low quality - just as good as they needed to be, and no more.
And a number of starter pistols were not terrible. H&R’s blank-firing revolvers were solid items, fashioned from the same materials as their counterparts firing live rounds. Budget arms certainly, but neither cheap nor weak.
Never seen a Webley IV that was poorly or cheaply made. Badly treated and miserably maintained, yes. What led the British to choose that caliber is still a head scratcher. Not nearly the equal of their earlier Webleys, chiefly Mk VI, in 455. If I had to choose a revolver today, I’d not feel poorly armed with one. And those were all well-made also.
Lugers - matched or not - are a cut above. Few examples of gun manufacturing can equal them. Steyr, possibly.
Can't fault your points on the Nagants and Soviet weapons and Webleys. Nonetheless, if I'm going to own something for myself, I tend to go for the Colts, Smiths, Walthers, and the occasional Luger or Mauser C96.
That way, if they're taking it off my dead body, they'll know they killed a guy with excellent taste in firearms - and money to burn!
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