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Mass Murderers Should Be Deprived of Fame
Townhall.com ^ | October 12, 2017 | Steve Chapman

Posted on 10/12/2017 1:51:55 PM PDT by Kaslin

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To: DoughtyOne

Well, it wasn’t just the excellent writing, which I adore, but the John Lennon thing is EXACTLY how I’ve always felt about it. You put my thoughts into words. Amazing.


21 posted on 10/12/2017 3:32:11 PM PDT by bagster (Social Culture Warrior (SCW))
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To: marktwain

You make some good points there.

I agree with your take those things.

In my mind, we should be able to find the name of folks who have committed serious crimes. It’s a matter of public record, and I think it’s imperative as part of full disclosure.

I just don’t think we need to see it 250 times per days for weeks on end after an event.

The Las Vegas shooter is a good example. The name should be out there, but he shouldn’t become a star (in effect).

After a short time he should simply be known as the Las Vegas shooter.

Once he is identified, leave it at that. Folks can look it up if they want, but they won’t be bludgeoned over the head with his name for years on end.

Take care.


22 posted on 10/12/2017 3:35:45 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (John McBane is the turd in the national punch-bowl.)
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To: bagster

Thanks again.

A long time ago I was told that asking a question in class was generally a good idea, because if the question occurred to you, others were probably wanting to ask it too.

When I write responses, I try to write them with the same thing in mind. I want to explain my views for two reasons. I want to echo other people’s thoughts for positive reinforcement. I also want to present thoughts that may be a view that others hadn’t pondered, explained well enough for it to make sense to them, possibly to be adopted by them.

Take care.


23 posted on 10/12/2017 3:52:16 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (John McBane is the turd in the national punch-bowl.)
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To: Boogieman
Instead of referring to them as “the gunman”, stories should just refer to them as “the loser” continuously.

Right after the MB shooting happened, there was an article posted that had a similar discussion... I suggested at the time that for the same reason (as to never give these people fame), they should simply be assigned a number. I would like to suggest that in keeping with your suggestion, such killers simply be referred to as killer XXXXX and leave it at that with never a reference again made to their name....and yes, 'killer' would remain in lower case.

24 posted on 10/12/2017 4:47:23 PM PDT by hecticskeptic
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To: Kaslin
Mass Murderers Should Be Deprived of Fame

Like THIS??



 


 
Eerily familiar...
 
 

Party ownership of the print media
made it easy to manipulate public opinion,
and the film and radio carried the process further.


 



16. Ministry Of Truth

.......

The Ministry of Truth, Winston's place of work, contained, it was said, three thousand rooms above ground level, and corresponding ramifications below.

The Ministry of Truth concerned itself with Lies. Party ownership of the print media made it easy to manipulate public opinion, and the film and radio carried the process further.

The primary job of the Ministry of Truth was to supply the citizens of Oceania with newspapers, films, textbooks, telescreen programmes, plays, novels - with every conceivable kind of information, instruction, or entertainment, from a statue to a slogan, from a lyric poem to a biological treatise, and from a child's spelling-book to a Newspeak dictionary.

Winston worked in the RECORDS DEPARTMENT (a single branch of the Ministry of Truth) editing and writing for The Times. He dictated into a machine called a speakwrite. Winston would receive articles or news-items which for one reason or another it was thought necessary to alter, or, in Newspeak, rectify. If, for example, the Ministry of Plenty forecast a surplus, and in reality the result was grossly less, Winston's job was to change previous versions so the old version would agree with the new one. This process of continuous alteration was applied not only to newspapers, but to books, periodicals, pamphlets, posters, leaflets, films, sound-tracks, cartoons, photographs - to every kind of literature or documentation which might conceivably hold any political or ideological significance.

When his day's work started, Winston pulled the speakwrite towards him, blew the dust from its mouthpiece, and put on his spectacles. He dialed 'back numbers' on the telescreen and called for the appropriate issues of The Times, which slid out of the pneumatic tube after only a few minutes' delay. The messages he had received referred to articles or news-items which for one reason or another it was thought necessary to rectify.

In the walls of the cubicle there were three orifices. To the right of the speakwrite, a small pneumatic tube for written messages; to the left, a larger one for newspapers; and on the side wall, within easy reach of Winston's arm, a large oblong slit protected by a wire grating. This last was for the disposal of waste paper. Similar slits existed in thousands or tens of thousands throughout the building, not only in every room but at short intervals in every corridor. For some reason they were nicknamed memory holes. When one knew that any document was due for destruction, or even when one saw a scrap of waste paper lying about, it was an automatic action to lift the flap of the nearest memory hole and drop it in, whereupon it would be whirled away on a current of warm air to the enormous furnaces which were hidden somewhere in the recesses of the building.

As soon as Winston had dealt with each of the messages, he clipped his speakwritten corrections to the appropriate copy of The Times and pushed them into the pneumatic tube. Then, with a movement which was as nearly as possible unconscious, he crumpled up the original message and any notes that he himself had made, and dropped them into the memory hole to be devoured by the flames.

What happened in the unseen labyrinth to which the tubes led, he did not know in detail, but he did know in general terms. As soon as all the corrections which happened to be necessary in any particular number of The Times had been assembled and collated, that number would be reprinted, the original copy destroyed, and the corrected copy placed on the files in its stead.

In the cubicle next to him the little woman with sandy hair toiled day in day out, simply at tracking down and deleting from the Press the names of people who had been vaporized and were therefore considered never to have existed. And this hall, with its fifty workers or thereabouts, was only one-sub-section, a single cell, as it were, in the huge complexity of the Records Department. Beyond, above, below, were other swarms of workers engaged in an unimaginable multitude of jobs.

There were huge printing-shops and their sub editors, their typography experts, and their elaborately equipped studios for the faking of photographs. There was the tele-programmes section with its engineers, its producers and its teams of actors specially chosen for their skill in imitating voices; clerks whose job was simply to draw up lists of books and periodicals which were due for recall; vast repositories where the corrected documents were stored; and the hidden furnaces where the original copies were destroyed.

And somewhere or other, quite anonymous, there were the directing brains who co-ordinated the whole effort and laid down the lines of policy which made it necessary that this fragment of the past should be preserved, that one falsified, and the other rubbed out of existence.

 
 


25 posted on 10/12/2017 6:05:41 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: generally
I’ve been saying for years that heinous criminals should not become famous.

Quit worrying.

They don't.

They become infamous.

26 posted on 10/12/2017 6:07:20 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Kaslin

No gonna happen, people are curious. Jack the Ripper’s identity is still speculated on.


27 posted on 10/12/2017 8:11:21 PM PDT by Impy (The democrat party is the enemy of your family and civilization itself, forget that at your peril.)
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To: Kaslin

....and their lives.


28 posted on 10/12/2017 9:24:10 PM PDT by luvie (Our troops are the best of the best and we should honor them EVERY day!)
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