Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

Investigators Probing Whether Others Were in Gunman’s Suite (IRS: 2015 made $5M Gambling)
NBC News ^

Posted on 10/06/2017 11:49:43 AM PDT by springwater13

Investigators are trying to nail down whether anyone else was in the hotel suite reserved by the Las Vegas gunman during the time he was registered there, multiple senior law enforcement officials briefed on the investigation into the shooting told NBC News.

The investigators are puzzled by two discoveries: First, a charger was found that does not match any of the cell phones that belonged to Stephen Paddock, the man who killed himself inside the Mandalay Bay Resort and Casino after sending a barrage of bullets down on a crowd of 22,000 people below.

And second, garage records show that during a period when Paddock's car left the hotel garage, one of his key cards was used to get into his room.

They are also examining his finances. IRS records show that Paddock was a very successful gambler, earning at least $5 million in 2015. Some of that could be from his other investments, but most of it was from gambling, officials say.

(Excerpt) Read more at nbcnews.com ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: abuabdulbaralamriki; isis; lasvegas; lvinvestigation; lvmassacre; mandalaybay; paddock; paddockgambling; stephenpaddock
Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first previous 1-2021-4041-6061-8081-98 next last
To: dragnet2

Didnt you read that the hallway cameras were all “ jammed”?
Yes this aged flabby pop-up terrorist was a mixture of James Bond, Jason Bourne, Carlos the Jackal and McGyer


61 posted on 10/06/2017 1:14:30 PM PDT by silverleaf (A man who kneels for the national anthem doesn't stand for much of anything)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 6 | View Replies]

To: silverleaf

Yeah I read it, but don’t know if it’s true.

If true would that not mean the hotel was using wireless devices for their security?


62 posted on 10/06/2017 1:15:59 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 61 | View Replies]

To: springwater13
And second, garage records show that during a period when Paddock's car left the hotel garage, one of his key cards was used to get into his room.

Investigators ALREADY have those answers by watching security cam footage.

They're NOT telling the public either because they're searching for whover used the room key... or we will NEVER know because it does NOT fit the agenda of what they want the public to KNOW.

63 posted on 10/06/2017 1:16:08 PM PDT by VideoDoctor
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: jonno

I find it hard to believe it’s possible to win $5,000,000 playing video poker. I find it harder to believe any casino would not ban someone that “lucky”.


64 posted on 10/06/2017 1:16:14 PM PDT by Terry Mross (Liver spots And blood thinners.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 5 | View Replies]

To: jonno

IRS allows all kinds of expenses to be included in losses including travel and accommodations. No way a casino would be able to or be required to track.


65 posted on 10/06/2017 1:16:20 PM PDT by Jonny7797
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 56 | View Replies]

To: springwater13; bitt; LucyT

From the article:

“...And second, garage records show that during a period when Paddock’s car left the hotel garage, one of his key cards was used to get into his room. ...”

There it is.

Guy had help.

Ping!

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3592607/posts?page=1#1


66 posted on 10/06/2017 1:16:49 PM PDT by WildHighlander57 ((WildHighlander57, returning after lurking since 2000)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: jonno

“...Is it within the realm of possibility that this guy could regularly earn this kind of money from actual gambling?...”

No, the house always wins.

If someone starts winning too much, they throw him/her out.


67 posted on 10/06/2017 1:18:26 PM PDT by WildHighlander57 ((WildHighlander57, returning after lurking since 2000)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 5 | View Replies]

To: springwater13
there are no successful gamblers...

this guy was doing something to launder money....he lead a secret life alright....probably was a gigantic money handler....

68 posted on 10/06/2017 1:18:51 PM PDT by cherry
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Cementjungle

If someone other than him used the room key then that someone is on video doing it.


69 posted on 10/06/2017 1:22:25 PM PDT by Terry Mross (Liver spots And blood thinners.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 18 | View Replies]

To: bkopto; LS

Thanks for the Twitter link.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3592607/posts?page=23#23

https://twitter.com/jbro_1776

LS,

Ping to the Twitter link...


70 posted on 10/06/2017 1:22:30 PM PDT by WildHighlander57 ((WildHighlander57, returning after lurking since 2000)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 23 | View Replies]

To: springwater13

Gamblers will share accomodations with other gambling friends.

$5 mil is a huge win for 1 year. I bet it can be traced back to one huge win.

The difference between a professional gambler and a degenerate gambler is a professional manages to have money.

Who leaked the IRS information? Pre-Obama that was one of the worst political sins one could commit.

If he was that good of a gambler and that much of a pro then other big time pros would know him, but I hear not a peep about other gambling pros relating interactions with him.

If a gambler finds a steady overlay, the smart professional ones go incognito as to make sure another pro starts picking his strawberry patch.


71 posted on 10/06/2017 1:22:51 PM PDT by Fhios (Down with your fascism, up with our fascism.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: onedoug
I suspect we’re being had. And I wonder if we’ll ever know the truth of this whole business.

YES and NO!

I suspect we’re being had... YES

I wonder if we’ll ever know the truth of this whole business? NO!

72 posted on 10/06/2017 1:26:22 PM PDT by VideoDoctor
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 39 | View Replies]

To: springwater13

Multilevel parking garages in Las Vegas are crawling with cameras. Who was it who entered and drove away in the suspect vehicle? Was it the suspect?

And how many hotel room card keys was the suspect issued and were they still in his possession?


73 posted on 10/06/2017 1:28:47 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: CivilWarBrewing

A set of parallel time lines for all sorts of people, electronic events, location of things, etc. can be informative.

We would benefit from the timing of each shot from his room for example.


74 posted on 10/06/2017 1:37:44 PM PDT by Paladin2 (No spelchk nor wrong word auto substition on mobile dev. Please be intelligent and deal with it....)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 17 | View Replies]

To: Gideon7
"What I think was actually happening was that the casinos were filing real 1099 Copy As for his $5 million in winnings, but his offsetting losses (also in the millions) were also reported on his Form 1040. Losses are reported basically on the honor system, and he used this loophole to launder the 1099 money. "

It's not just the honor system if you're playing the slot or video poker machines. The casinos keep computerized records of your play if you use your player's card while at the machines. They will know to the penny how much you wagered, how much you won and how much you lost and will provide you a printout of your wins and loses for your tax filings if you ask for it.

It is more of an honor system at the table games and in the poker room but even there (for any serious amounts of cash) the casino has a very good idea of how much is being won and lost. They are under constant scrutiny by the feds just because they are one the few remaining places that small-timers can launder money.

Note: the big boys just ask their bank to provide the laundering service for them and the banks are more than happy to comply.    HSBC to pay $1.9 billion U.S. fine in money-laundering case
75 posted on 10/06/2017 1:43:34 PM PDT by Garth Tater (Gone Galt and I ain't coming back.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 48 | View Replies]

To: jonno

Playing video poker? Not believable.


76 posted on 10/06/2017 1:54:07 PM PDT by Titus-Maximus (It doesn't matter who votes for whom, it only matters who counts the votes - Joe Stalin)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 5 | View Replies]

To: dragnet2

They have the data, let’s do a painstaking day by day.

Why it is taking a while.


77 posted on 10/06/2017 1:55:11 PM PDT by Titus-Maximus (It doesn't matter who votes for whom, it only matters who counts the votes - Joe Stalin)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 6 | View Replies]

To: Titus-Maximus

I understand, but they have time frames when he was at the hotel. It’s not like they have to look at an entire month or 2 or 3 months. The Mandalay Bay part of the investigation regarding his movements should not take long. In my opinion, they already know or have damn good idea what the motive at this point.


78 posted on 10/06/2017 2:02:07 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 77 | View Replies]

To: jonno

“I’ve read elsewhere that his “earnings” have the whiff of laundered money. Is it within the realm of possibility that this guy could regularly earn this kind of money from actual gambling?”

It has got to be money laundering unless that $5 million does not include losses or he hit one huge jackpot.


79 posted on 10/06/2017 2:03:20 PM PDT by willk (everyone)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 5 | View Replies]

To: Titus-Maximus

And the fact they’ve revealed when his car exited the parking garage someone used a key-card to gain access to his room, is big, unless it turns out to be hotel maid etc. But I would guess Paddock would have made sure to avoid housekeeping messing things up for him.


80 posted on 10/06/2017 2:07:43 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 77 | View Replies]


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first previous 1-2021-4041-6061-8081-98 next last

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson