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Didn't Rand Paul get excoriated by the left for saying much the same thing as these Cuban doctors?
1 posted on 09/29/2017 3:09:47 PM PDT by Incorrigible
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Slave labor in a communist country?? Can’t be....it’s only happened here in the US and to listen to some it continues. /sarc


2 posted on 09/29/2017 3:10:54 PM PDT by ealgeone
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Rather edgy subject matter for NYT.


3 posted on 09/29/2017 3:13:02 PM PDT by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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The New York Times must be really torn over this.
Slavery by communists. It’s like finding out
your mom pimps out girls, and never cut you in.


4 posted on 09/29/2017 3:15:25 PM PDT by sparklite2 (I'm less interested in the rights I have than the liberties I can take.)
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But.. but all the Hollywood lefties say that Cuba has THE BEST health care in the world! It’s free ‘n’ everybody gets it ‘n’ nobody ever gets sick ‘n’ dies or nuthin’. Michael Moore said so too. He said Cuba’s got the best health care. And you now Michael Moore never lies.


5 posted on 09/29/2017 3:18:56 PM PDT by jmacusa ("Made it Ma, top of the world!'')
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But I thought government run healthcare was so...wonderful...


7 posted on 09/29/2017 3:19:56 PM PDT by Signalman
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Paging Michael Moore and Colin Kaepernick...


8 posted on 09/29/2017 3:21:52 PM PDT by Lysandru
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I guess Sean Penn was wrong.


9 posted on 09/29/2017 3:22:27 PM PDT by Huskrrrr
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When you have no taxpayers to fleece, “free universal healthcare” means enslaved doctors.


10 posted on 09/29/2017 3:22:37 PM PDT by rightwingcrazy
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Doctor heel thyself.


12 posted on 09/29/2017 3:23:27 PM PDT by bunkerhill7 ((("The Second Amendment has no limits on firepower"-NY State Senator Kathleen A. Marchione."))))))
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The legal challenges are all the more important because the doctors have lost a common backup plan: going to the United States... President Barack Obama in January ended the program, which had allowed Cuban doctors stationed in other countries to get permanent residency visas for the United States.

Yup. CNN, ABC, CBS, NBC have been in arms over this for months.

LOL! I kid me sometimes. They could care less. All they want coming to the US are farm workers.

14 posted on 09/29/2017 3:25:24 PM PDT by VeniVidiVici (Democrats destroy the Middle Class. It's what they do.)
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Our founding fathers had it right:

"We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness."

The Cuban DR's are simply seeking what God gave us all and not the Cuban government.

15 posted on 09/29/2017 3:25:27 PM PDT by WeWaWes (When I look in the mirror I see an elephant--a bad ass elephant)
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“Free” healthcare requires a slave class of healthcare workers.

It can’t work any other way.


18 posted on 09/29/2017 3:34:38 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (<img src="http://i.imgur.com/WukZwJP.gif" width=800>)
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To: Incorrigible; John Semmens

I must be asleep and dreaming this.

This can’t be a NySlimes article.

This has to be one of John Semmens’ SEMI-NEWS/SEMI-SATIREs posing as a Ny Slimes article.


19 posted on 09/29/2017 3:39:41 PM PDT by Grampa Dave (Now that Trump is kicking their ass, they want to quit.)
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But Michael Moore told us this was the medical system we need to be emulating?


20 posted on 09/29/2017 4:06:04 PM PDT by eclecticEel ("The petty man forsakes what lies within his power and longs for what lies with Heaven." - Xunzi)
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That is precisely what I said about the consequences of 0bamaCare and the evil idea of a "right to healthcare."

Whose right is health care? Do you think it's yours?

Congressman Anthony Weiner (and Bernie Sanders) has said that health care is not a commodity. If it isn't a commodity then do doctors and nurses have rights? Assigning health care the status of a right makes health care workers slaves to that right who must serve it. On what ground could a health care worker refuse to provide their products and services since that would violate the patient's "basic human right to health care."

That is a direct loss of individual rights for health care providers. The collective right of the people to receive health care would supersede the provider's individual right to set fees and hours or to change their occupational status or even decide how to apply their skills and knowledge if taken to its logical extreme. A collective right, by practical definition, is a state right because it is a right that is created and given by the government to those it chooses to give it to. It is not a natural right possessed by each person protected by the Constitution from the government. It is also a collective/state right by virtue of the fact that it would supersede individual rights when the two come into conflict. How else would the government view a right that it created and administers vs. one it has no control over?

Of course it isn't stated in any bill that a patient's right to care supersedes a provider's right to set fees and hours etc, but it doesn't need to. Rights, as always, are adjudicated in the courts. The Health Care Reform bills simply establish the foundation for the courts to rule in favor of the collective right.

Weiner’s view is collectivist, fascist and totalitarian. Collectivist because it has to be described as being a right of the many instead of the one and superior due to that fact. Fascist because ultimately the sole authority for its creation and oversight is from one entity the Federal government. Totalitarian because the Federal government is the enforcer of this collective right as well. State and local jurisdictions will have little say about it.

Congressman Weiner's view is the underlying philosophy of all of the Health Care Reform legislation in the House and Senate. Consider this section in the Senate version of the bill; the setting up of community watch dogs that will monitor citizens for various health parameters. Read pages 382 - 393.

TITLE I—QUALITY, AFFORDABLE HEALTH CARE FOR ALL AMERICANS pps 382 - 393

So, even citizens themselves will be subject to Federal regulations on their behavior in order to fulfill the "human right" of universal health care. It isn't the individual's liberty that is being protected by that it is the government's control over its own health care system that is being guarded. How much clearer can it be that these bills abrogate the concept of individual rights? Someone will be checking your lifestyle, according to gov regulations, to be certain you serve the best interests of the "basic human right to health care" ie. "the Public Option."

HCR is not just about rationing care and wealth redistribution. It's about the end of individual rights as the corrosive effects of the new collectivist "basic human right to health care" spreads throughout the legal and political systems like a virus.

I think that the main purpose of Health Care Reform (HCR) is as a direct assault on individual liberties.

Health Care is a Liberty Issue
Conservative Underground - 18 August 2009 - Tim Dunkin

Another Stupid Argument: Heath Care is a Right

Involuntary Medical Servitude

Obama's Authoritarian, Unconstitutional Health Care Proposal

Defining A Right In America

To Americans Who Believe Healthcare is a Right

OBAMA: HEALTH CARE DESTROYING FREE SPEECH

Mandated health insurance threatens freedom, privacy

Bad Laws and Unintended Consequences, part 1.

Obamacare Rips Doctor-Patient Relationship Apart

Second Bill of Rights aka FDR's economic bill of rights
(An early attempt to embed collective rights into American politics and society.)


22 posted on 09/29/2017 4:21:00 PM PDT by TigersEye (0bama. The Legacy is a lie. The lie is the Legacy.)
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Socialist Medicine bump for later....


23 posted on 09/29/2017 4:37:06 PM PDT by indthkr
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Bunch of “Gusanos”. /s


26 posted on 09/29/2017 4:56:51 PM PDT by dfwgator
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This is what the democrats want for the US.


27 posted on 09/29/2017 5:03:25 PM PDT by Trillian
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I notice it’s only the doctors outside of Cuba who are “rebelling.” I wonder why none of them in Cuba are. Things to ponder....


31 posted on 09/29/2017 5:58:19 PM PDT by henkster (The View: A psychiatric group therapy session where the shrink has stepped out of the room.)
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Communism 101, you don’t own your labor, the government does.


32 posted on 09/29/2017 6:18:53 PM PDT by fungoking (Tis a pleasure to live in the 0zarks)
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