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Historic Constitutional Convention Opens at Arizona State Capitol
KPNX News ^ | September 12th 2017 | Pete Sholz

Posted on 09/13/2017 11:58:35 AM PDT by Jacquerie

PHOENIX - The solid rap of a gavel falling at the Arizona State Capitol wasn't lost on the assembled 72 delegates from across the country.

"It's pretty historic, really," Arizona State Rep. Don Shooter said. "I think it's the first time since 1861."

Lawmakers and observers were in Phoenix for the Balanced Budget Amendment Planning Convention, the very first step in amending the US Constitution. The proposal would force the federal government to only spend the money it has.

"This isn't a Republican or Democrat issue; this is an American issue, I think," Kansas State Rep. Blake Carpenter said.

But can this group, and others like it, actually make a difference? Yes! But it's a long, tough process.

"States always had the power to change the Constitution when it was necessary, when citizens believed it was necessary," Arizona State Sen. Nancy Barto said.

A tall order, but it can happen because of Article V in the U.S. Constitution -- handing over some power to States to propose amendments to the U.S. Constitution.

But as Oklahoma delegate Gary Banz cautioned during his opening remarks to the convention, "We are not here to write language for a proposed amendment."

Rather, the goal of this convention of state legislators is to draft rules for the next step of the process.

"If we have the rules all planned out ready to go, people can look at them," Carpenter said. "I think it makes it a little more tangible for us to get to 34."

Thirty-four states are needed just to get Congress to call for an Article 5 Convention. However, getting states to ratify a new amendment is an even heavier lift for lawmakers.

"There's no Republican or Democrat majority that's 38 states," Idaho State Senator Marv Hagedorn said. "So to ratify the amendment, you're going to have to get both parties onboard for any kind of ratification."

The BBA Planning Convention is at the House of Representatives building at the Arizona State Capitol until Friday.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Government; News/Current Events; US: Arizona
KEYWORDS: articlev; conventionofstates; cos
Its an horrible title, but the author works for a TV station; cut him some slack.

Hat tip to Freeper yefragetuwrabrumuy.

So much for the Article V opponents hysteria over a 'runaway' convention.

1 posted on 09/13/2017 11:58:35 AM PDT by Jacquerie
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To: 5thGenTexan; 1010RD; AllAmericanGirl44; Amagi; aragorn; Art in Idaho; Arthur McGowan; ...

Don’t shoot the messenger Article V ping!


2 posted on 09/13/2017 12:02:14 PM PDT by Jacquerie (ArticleVBlog.com)
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To: Jacquerie

Hoe to see more forward movement coming this year and next.


3 posted on 09/13/2017 12:05:44 PM PDT by Repeal The 17th (I was conceived in liberty, how about you?)
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To: Jacquerie

“The proposal would force the federal government to only spend the money it has.”

Great, now put something in to stop the Fed’s from hiking up the tax to cover more spending!!!

We also need to cut a lot of current spending.


4 posted on 09/13/2017 12:26:41 PM PDT by EXCH54FE (Hurricane 416,Feisty Old Vet (If it is to be, it's up to me))
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To: Jacquerie

We need a balanced fiscal year Constitutional amendment, with all federal constitutional officers permanently losing and being barred from government employment, service, employment/service-based benefits and payment at the start of the next Congress after any federal fiscal year that ends in the red.

I think we need to limit US federal income taxation by Constitutional amendment to no more than 10%, except for 10,000,000 taxpayers.

I think we need to limit federal income taxation by Constitutional amendment to no more than 20%, except for 1,000,000 taxpayers, with any amount above 20% collected being used to pay down the existing debt and that refinanced.

I think we need to limit state-based income taxation by Constitutional amendment to 10%.

I think we need to permanently bar federal property and wealth taxation totally.


5 posted on 09/13/2017 12:39:16 PM PDT by Brian Griffin
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To: Jacquerie

Awesome, like a childs first steps.


6 posted on 09/13/2017 1:28:42 PM PDT by exnavy (long live the .45 colt, the original handgun cartridge.)
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To: EXCH54FE

raising taxes lowers government income, proven fact.


7 posted on 09/13/2017 1:30:08 PM PDT by exnavy (long live the .45 colt, the original handgun cartridge.)
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To: exnavy; EXCH54FE
raising taxes lowers government income, proven fact.

correct.

8 posted on 09/13/2017 1:32:46 PM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: Jacquerie

Excellent!


9 posted on 09/13/2017 2:22:52 PM PDT by TBP (Progressives lack compassion and tolerance. Only their self-aggrandizement matters.)
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To: exnavy

<>Awesome, like a child’s first steps.<>

Great summary.


10 posted on 09/13/2017 2:31:09 PM PDT by Jacquerie (ArticleVBlog.com)
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To: Jacquerie

29 States onboard so far. Only 5 to go.


11 posted on 09/13/2017 6:59:45 PM PDT by Nateman (If liberals are not screaming you are doing it wrong!)
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To: Jacquerie
“Thirty-four states are needed just to get Congress to call for an Article 5 Convention. However, getting states to ratify a new amendment is an even heavier lift for lawmakers.’

I thought states called for an Article 5 Convention. If left to the Senate, it probably won't be called. Senators do not owe their loyalty to their states, nor their voters. “They owe their soul to the company store” (Their campaign contributors).

It will get very interesting.

12 posted on 09/20/2017 3:45:17 PM PDT by Yulee (Village of Albion)
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To: Yulee

Just read Article V. Of interest is that the Framers had the individual states make an ‘application’ rather than a ‘petition’. Petition implies subservience.

I agree with your estimate that congress will never call for a convention, no matter how many applications it receives.


13 posted on 09/20/2017 4:00:29 PM PDT by Jacquerie (ArticleVBlog.com)
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