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Beware the Broken Window Fallacy: Some Economists Still Think Disasters are Good for the Economy
Foundation for Economic Education ^ | 09/12/2017 | Jeff Jacoby

Posted on 09/12/2017 10:33:07 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

On Friday morning, with Hurricane Irma having wrecked the islands of Saint Martin and Barbuda, CNBC published a story cheerily laying out the silver lining embedded in the tropical disasters:

Hurricanes Harvey and Irma actually will lead to increased economic activity over the long run, New York Fed President William Dudley said in an interview.

Speaking just as Irma is about to start battering Florida as a Category 4 storm, Dudley said the initial impact in both human and economic costs will be harmful. But in the long run, economies tend to snap back from such major events.

"Those effects tend to be pretty transitory," Dudley said. . . . "The long-run effect . . . is it actually lifts economic activity because you have to rebuild all the things that have been damaged by the storms."

A few days earlier, Euronews had run a similar story: “Hurricane Harvey pushes up petrol prices, but 'economic outlook positive.'” Over at Yahoo Finance, a roundup of expert opinion quoted Goldman Sachs’s Jan Hatzius, who predicted a surge in the wake of the storms, “reflecting a boost from rebuilding efforts and a catch-up in economic activity displaced during the hurricane.” The Los Angeles Times, meanwhile, focused on one particular “glint of silver lining” in all the hurricane destruction — the bonanza it would spell for car dealers:

Floodwaters in and around Houston severely damaged or destroyed hundreds of thousands of cars and trucks, most of which will be replaced. Those new and used vehicle sales will benefit automakers and the economy, providing a glint of silver lining amid terrible tragedy.

It never fails. A terrible disaster wreaks havoc and ruin, and is promptly followed — or even, as in this case, preceded — by experts insisting that the devastation will be great for the economy.

Could anything be more absurd?

Every dollar spent on cleanup and reconstruction is a dollar that could have been spent to enlarge the nation’s reservoir of material assets.The shattering losses caused by hurricanes, earthquakes, forest fires, and other calamities are grievous misfortunes that obviously leave society poorer. Vast sums of money may be spent afterward to repair and rebuild, but society will still be poorer from the damage caused by the storm or other disaster. Every dollar spent on cleanup and reconstruction is a dollar that could have been spent to enlarge the nation’s reservoir of material assets. Instead, it has to be spent replacing what was lost. That isn’t a “glint of silver lining.” It is the tragedy of vanished wealth and opportunity, to say nothing of immense human suffering.

As a matter of theology or philosophy or psychology, there may be a certain validity to interpreting tragedy as a blessing in disguise. But as a matter of economics, it is madness. If your car is totaled in a crash, you don’t celebrate your good fortune because the insurance company is going to send you a check to pay for a new car. Sure, the auto dealer will be glad to make a sale, but his gain will not outweigh your loss. Nor will the economy as a whole be better off: The money you have to spend to get another set of wheels is money that might otherwise have been devoted to enlarging society’s stock of capital. All it can do now is restore capital that was wiped out.

Yet the fallacy that disaster is a boon never seems to go out of style. Even Nobel laureates indulge in it.

“It seems almost in bad taste to talk about dollars and cents after an act of mass murder,’’wrote Paul Krugman in The New York Times, just after the 9/11 horror 16 years ago today, but the terrorist attacks could “do some economic good.’’ After all, he continued, Manhattan would “need some new office buildings’’ and “rebuilding will generate at least some increase in business spending.’’

Ugh.

All the increased spending on earth will never bring back those who died. It will never undo the fear and trauma and sorrow of the survivors. And it can never restore the millions of man-hours required to repair and rebuild and recover.

No, hurricanes are not good for the economy. Neither are floods, earthquakes, or massacres. When windows are shattered, all of humanity is left materially worse off. There is no financial “glint of silver lining.” To claim otherwise is delusional. To make that claim in the midst of a catastrophe is callous beyond words.



TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; Philosophy
KEYWORDS: brokenwindows; disasters; economy; fallacy
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To: sparklite2
Yet there was some positive fallout from the Black Death.

Unless you were one of those killed. Kind of an ultimate "broken window."

Also, the Black Death is an interesting case in that ALL productive assets and capital goods remained in tact. Nothing at all was destroyed - only people.

21 posted on 09/12/2017 11:08:24 AM PDT by PGR88
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To: Navy Patriot

Looting is has the same NEGATIVE effect as storm damage in some cases it is literally a broken window. I wonder how many FRs think looting is good for the economy?


22 posted on 09/12/2017 11:09:03 AM PDT by FreedomNotSafety
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To: Buckeye McFrog
Right -- but I think you can make the case that a large disaster that requires extensive rebuilding might end up improving productivity over a large region as old, outdated buildings and equipment are replaced by new, modern ones.

Isn't this one of the big reasons why post-WW2 Europe and Asia saw such phenomenal economic growth?

23 posted on 09/12/2017 11:10:25 AM PDT by Alberta's Child ("I was elected to represent the citizens of Pittsburgh, not Paris." -- President Trump, 6/1/2017)
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To: PGR88

Sort of a medieval neutron bomb, the perfect capitalist weapon. It gets rid of the people but leaves the real estate undamaged.


24 posted on 09/12/2017 11:10:27 AM PDT by sparklite2 (I'm less interested in the rights I have than the liberties I can take.)
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To: PGR88

Then what you suppose ended the Depression?


25 posted on 09/12/2017 11:12:02 AM PDT by sparklite2 (I'm less interested in the rights I have than the liberties I can take.)
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To: jiggyboy

I would suggest that New Orleans came out much better after Hurricane Katrina no matter how you measure it ... since many of those who were permanently displaced and moved out of the city had negative productivity to begin with.


26 posted on 09/12/2017 11:14:52 AM PDT by Alberta's Child ("I was elected to represent the citizens of Pittsburgh, not Paris." -- President Trump, 6/1/2017)
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To: SeekAndFind
The bottleneck in our economy is not labor or materials, but initiative and the freedom required to exercise it. Because of exponential technologies -- including fracking -- we live in a world of potential abundance, but we are constrained by policy and other forms of narrow thinking.

If these hurricanes provide excuses to expand freedom of action, we will all be better off in the long run.

27 posted on 09/12/2017 11:15:53 AM PDT by AZLiberty (The logical endpoint of "zero-tolerance history" is zero history.)
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To: AZLiberty
Because of exponential technologies -- including fracking -- we live in a world of potential abundance, but we are constrained by policy and other forms of narrow thinking.

That's a very interesting point. I'd also suggest that we are constrained by the limits of our consumption. In effect, our capacity to produce things far outweighs our ability to consume them. This is why our economy has devolved into a fascist (in the original sense) crony-capitalist system where companies and entire industries can only exist by getting people and businesses to become their customers under threat of government force. Isn't that what ObamaCare is all about, for example?

28 posted on 09/12/2017 11:20:24 AM PDT by Alberta's Child ("I was elected to represent the citizens of Pittsburgh, not Paris." -- President Trump, 6/1/2017)
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To: PGR88

Disasters clearly benefit some companies and industries, but the overall economy takes a huge hit.


29 posted on 09/12/2017 11:22:50 AM PDT by WASCWatch
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To: SeekAndFind

Anyone anywhere is the U.S. with even marginal construction skills is almost guaranteed a year or more of steady work in Texas or Florida. If they are collecting unemployment or welfare, lay down the law: go where the work is (with our assistance making the contacts and traveling) or leave the rolls.


30 posted on 09/12/2017 11:26:38 AM PDT by JimRed ( TERM LIMITS, NOW! Building the Wall! TRUTH is the new HATE SPEECH.)
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To: sparklite2
If the Depression was ended by WWII mobilization, production and consumption, then why didn't the USA plunge right back into Depression when 12 million soldiers returned home and war spending was reduced by 90%?

Because those 12 million soldiers transitioned back into a workforce that in turn transitioned from wartime activities to economic activities that rebuilt Europe among other things...

31 posted on 09/12/2017 11:38:36 AM PDT by Common Sense 101
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To: Common Sense 101; PGR88

Your reply should have been directed to PGR88.


32 posted on 09/12/2017 11:53:28 AM PDT by sparklite2 (I'm less interested in the rights I have than the liberties I can take.)
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To: Navy Patriot
Increased economic activity.

So, I saw your photo array, and in the spirit of fairness (and curiosity) searched "Hurricane Harvey and Irma looters" to specifically look for any white guys. If I'd found any I'd have private FReepmailed you to ask why you left 'em out. Yeah, I'm that kind of PITA- I will call my own to account.

Didn't find a one.

33 posted on 09/12/2017 11:54:05 AM PDT by JimRed ( TERM LIMITS, NOW! Building the Wall! TRUTH is the new HATE SPEECH.)
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To: Alberta's Child

our capacity to produce things far outweighs our ability to consume them...


...at a price we are willing to pay. That’s why so many consumer goods are imported. Crony-capitalism in the form of minimum wages, burdensome taxes, overbearing regulations, bars to entry, and unions to name a few.


34 posted on 09/12/2017 12:01:03 PM PDT by sparklite2 (I'm less interested in the rights I have than the liberties I can take.)
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To: sparklite2
..at a price we are willing to pay.

There is no cost benefit to offshoring of manufacturing for the consumer. The middle men eat up that small profit margin way before the final retail price is applied.

35 posted on 09/12/2017 12:03:02 PM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: central_va

If there were no benefits to off-shoring, no one would do it.
There’s a reason our stores are stocked with goods from China. It’s the price. Certainly not the quality.


36 posted on 09/12/2017 12:19:48 PM PDT by sparklite2 (I'm less interested in the rights I have than the liberties I can take.)
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To: PGR88

” ... the Black Death is an interesting case in that ALL productive assets and capital goods remained in tact.”

True, unless you think (as I do) that human capital is productive.


37 posted on 09/12/2017 12:21:25 PM PDT by riverdawg
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To: sparklite2
The broken glass meme is nonsense. Although some economists say the Depression was not ended by WWII, it seems to me it was. Does broken glass work on a huge scale?

Arrgghhh!

WWII ended UNEMPLOYMENT. Living standards actually declined during the war. The economic activity was not real. It was not producing goods & services.

The depression ended a couple of years after the war when the soldiers came home, FDR was gone, and America got back to work.

38 posted on 09/12/2017 12:21:31 PM PDT by Forgotten Amendments (Nessie ... Sasquatch ... The Free Syrian Army ...)
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To: Alberta's Child

“I would suggest that New Orleans came out much better after Hurricane Katrina no matter how you measure it ... since many of those who were permanently displaced and moved out of the city had negative productivity to begin with.”

New Orleans might have benefited from the out-migration of unproductive people, but Houston, Baton Rouge, and other destination cities presumably were made worse off. In the aggregate, wealth is destroyed by natural disasters.


39 posted on 09/12/2017 12:23:50 PM PDT by riverdawg
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To: sparklite2

There are definitely benefits to corporate bottom lines!


40 posted on 09/12/2017 12:24:40 PM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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