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Carmakers face electric reality as combustion engine outlook dims
Reuters ^ | September 12, 2017 | by Laurence Frost, Edward Taylor

Posted on 09/12/2017 9:10:52 AM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer

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To: ctdonath2

And IC won the competition.EV are like Hitlery refusing to acknowledge reality.


101 posted on 09/12/2017 11:48:24 AM PDT by hoosierham (Freedom isn't free)
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To: ctdonath2

EVs might be useful for short commutes and grocery shopping trips and the like in compact urban areas with moderate climate, but are total non-starters for the long distances in the mountain west states with extreme winters and extreme summers. EVs are not general purpose vehicles due to limited on board energy capacity.


102 posted on 09/12/2017 11:52:06 AM PDT by catnipman ( Cat Nipman: Vote Republican in 2012 and only be called racist one more time!)
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To: Clutch Martin

“But that technology is not quite on the market yet.”

yeah, i’ve been reading that exact same thing over and over again for at least the last 50 years.


103 posted on 09/12/2017 11:54:50 AM PDT by catnipman ( Cat Nipman: Vote Republican in 2012 and only be called racist one more time!)
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To: bar sin·is·ter

9 minutes would probably be acceptable.


104 posted on 09/12/2017 11:57:55 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: central_va

I agree, however, I presume this is based on optimal conditions... still don’t think battery technology is quire there yet, getting closer, but not where it needs to be.


105 posted on 09/12/2017 12:04:30 PM PDT by bar sin·is·ter (Climate Scientology - another example of science fiction morphing into a religious cult)
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To: rlmorel

And some of them are driving a nuclear powered car!


106 posted on 09/12/2017 12:07:05 PM PDT by Fresh Wind (Hillary: Go to jail. Go directly to jail. Do not pass GO. Do not collect 2 billion dollars.)
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To: Fresh Wind

heheheh, brings to mind the “Team America” liberal heads exploding!


107 posted on 09/12/2017 12:09:48 PM PDT by rlmorel (Those who sit on the picket fence are impaled by it.)
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To: factoryrat
Dieter Zetsche almost single-handedly destroyed Chrysler.

What are you talking about? The Chrysler SNAFU was under Schrempp. And it cost Daimler billions.

108 posted on 09/12/2017 12:13:47 PM PDT by Moltke (Reasoning with a liberal is like watering a rock in the hope to grow a building)
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To: bar sin·is·ter

The claim on the link you posted was 9 minutes for 125 miles for the Fisker. I am not aware of any charging stations including Tesla that can handle that load. Note is 125 miles instead of 400 miles. They are working on it, but it is not available now.


109 posted on 09/12/2017 12:20:02 PM PDT by EVO X
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To: Fresh Wind

he projected shortage of electricity to drive all these electric cars is part of the plan.

Electricity will be rationed, and only the elites will have unlimited access to the grid.

The rest of us will have our freedom to move about restricted by government edict, and tracked, all in the name of saving the planet.


Agreed.

Think about anyone with an electric car attempting to evacuate Florida or Texas? Disaster in the making...

Also, so easy to track in addition to ration.


110 posted on 09/12/2017 12:21:26 PM PDT by Freedom56v2 (Freeper formerly known as bushwon ;).Mississippi floo)
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To: Red Badger
If it’s lithium, Afghanistan is the Saudi Arabia of Lithium.

China and Afghanistan have a small common border......

Leading to yet another superpower starting a war in Afghanistan...

111 posted on 09/12/2017 12:26:38 PM PDT by kosciusko51
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To: EVO X
Read the comments at the end of this article. Appears to be this thing is all vaporware.
112 posted on 09/12/2017 12:31:03 PM PDT by bar sin·is·ter (Climate Scientology - another example of science fiction morphing into a religious cult)
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To: catnipman

I hear what you’re saying, but I’ve seen some things the last year or so concerning Battery Technology and seriously there are some major breakthroughs and safety research going on right now for replacing the current Battery Technology from Double A’s two household storage batteries for solar power. Very informative and it looks like there’s going to be some things happening here in the near future.

The exploding Samsung androids seemed to push the emphasis.

Currently household solar storage batteries are very expensive and they run very hot and they Are very efficient but cost-prohibitive. There’s a company up in Pittsburgh that has been working with salt water batteries and they’re very large and they’re very low-tech but they do the job just fine because they don’t have to be portable and they do it for a lot less money than the high-tech stuff that is the only available choice at this point in time. That was good news for me because there are some things that I would like to put on solar not the whole house. It’s one thing to have solar and it’s another thing to have to rely on car batteries to store your power which will only last just a small amount of time maybe an hour or two. These saltwater batteries would require an outbuilding to put them in and to put them in series they’re that big. But as I said they don’t have to be portable is that’s not really a downside currently you would need Banks of batteries anyway only these batteries are a lot less expensive they’re just like gargantuan car batteries that run on salt water rather than hydrochloric acid and some other things. If you research batteries ancients batteries have been around for quite a while and the premise was saltwater and some electrodes which caused the electrons to go back and forth. The stir and making it those Adams ready for accepting charges. The actual battery itself is a rather simple device but coming up with materials to make them safer and to make the charges last longer has been difficult. Samsung tried it and compressed everything to the point where their phones were exploding and if you’ve ever seen a video of a Android phone exploding you really need to go to YouTube and check one out it’s a major conflagration.


113 posted on 09/12/2017 12:48:28 PM PDT by Clutch Martin (Hot sauce aside, every culture has its pancakes, , just as every culture has its noodle.)
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To: Red Badger
If it’s lithium, Afghanistan is the Saudi Arabia of Lithium.

China and Afghanistan have a small common border......


I thought it was Bolivia... from wiki -

As of 2015, most of the world's lithium production is in South America, where lithium-containing brine is extracted from underground pools and concentrated by solar evaporation. The standard extraction technique is to evaporate water from brine. Each batch takes from 18 to 24 months.

114 posted on 09/12/2017 1:02:53 PM PDT by az_gila
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To: az_gila

Afghanistan’s lithium has NOT BEEN TAPPED because of the War, but it’s huge. Whoever gets final control of Afghanistan will control world lithium markets..................


115 posted on 09/12/2017 1:18:12 PM PDT by Red Badger (Road Rage lasts 5 minutes. Road Rash lasts 5 months!.....................)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Idiot liberal fake news. In no way is combustion engine technology dim. It only has gotten brighter and brighter.


116 posted on 09/12/2017 1:33:14 PM PDT by CodeToad (Victorious warriors WIN first, then go to war! Go TRUMP!!!)
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To: central_va

Of course 9 minutes compounds if you have to wait behind another car or 2 before you get your turn at the “pump.”


117 posted on 09/12/2017 1:35:38 PM PDT by SoothingDave
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To: Red Badger
Afghanistan’s lithium has NOT BEEN TAPPED because of the War, but it’s huge. Whoever gets final control of Afghanistan will control world lithium markets...


Maybe, but some of the 2010 report you quote (NYT by way of AOL) may have been Pentagon propaganda...:^)

https://web.archive.org/web/20131101062551/http://www.aolnews.com/2010/06/14/report-afghanistan-sitting-on-goldmine-literally/

118 posted on 09/12/2017 1:44:05 PM PDT by az_gila
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To: az_gila
Such a sudden injection of wealth could also worsen government corruption. Just last year, for example, Afghanistan's minister of mines was accused by U.S. officials of accepting a $30 million bribe to award China the rights to develop a copper mine.

China doesn't throw money like that away on propaganda.................

119 posted on 09/12/2017 2:34:53 PM PDT by Red Badger (Road Rage lasts 5 minutes. Road Rash lasts 5 months!.....................)
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To: Red Badger

I thank God that I am older and won’t have to watch this idiocy play out. God luck, youngsters.


120 posted on 09/12/2017 2:49:58 PM PDT by hal ogen (First Amendment or Reeducation Camp?)
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