Posted on 09/11/2017 5:35:31 PM PDT by Kaslin
In the 1980s, I had a boss who had gotten a masters degree in psychology from New York University. He was a brilliant man; could have been a doctor. He told me a story that explains much of what we see in society today.
It seems that while doing his graduate work in the early 1960s, he had to do research on lab rats, which were given the synthetic hormones used in the then new birth control pills. The results, he told me, showed that the grandchildren of these lab rats would have high rates of homosexual behaviors. From what he told me, the findings were suppressed. Apparently, the powers that be wanted “the pill” to pass muster. What happened to the second generation of rats that followed was of no consequence to them.
Then my boss told me: The first generation of kids born to mothers using the pill have already arrived. But we should expect in another generation a noticeable increase in homosexual behavior, as they would be the second generation. As that was then still in the future, I was shocked.
This was told me in the mid '80s. By his reckoning, we should have seen a societal explosion of homosexuality starting around 2000, and subsequently. And, of course, we have seen such an explosion. His prediction came true.
Now, to many classic conservatives – whether religious or merely social – homosexuality is a choice, something which can be learned and/or unlearned. The problem is: There is a degree of evidence that it may be contrariwise in some individuals.
I invite one to look at this short CBS 60 Minutes documentary about what happens to lab rats treated with sex hormones early on their development.
(Excerpt) Read more at americanthinker.com ...
My spayed female dog never humped anything.
So, then, find a medical corrective. As it now stands, people outside the mainstream are so busy celebrating their diversity, they do not wish to find out if their condition was created by events that violated nature and could be ameliorated. There is even a lobby for deaf people who don't want to have their rights violated by having cochlear implants that could help them hear.
It always astounds me that when a male goes to a doctor convinced he is a female, he is given female hormones instead of male hormones.
In fact, homosexuality was not uncommon in most of the ancient "civilized" world.
You were expected to find a nice virgin girl and get as many children on her as you could. You were to keep away from other men's wives and virgin daughters but other then that you were free to have sex with anything you could get to hold still.
But it obviously doesn’t happen to everyone so why would you think it was hereditary? What do bisexuals inherit?
Ping!
There were homosexuals long before the pill. And obviously many women took the pill when it came out which is borne out by the drastic drop in the birth rate at that time. There are not as many homosexuals as the left would like you to believe. So in comparison to the amount of women on the pill compared to the small number of homos, the numbers don’t pan out.
The luck of the draw, I guess. Not everyone is born with blue eyes, either.
>>The Bible talks about homosexuals way before there was the pill. Explain that.
Increase in sexual dysfunction as a result of environmental stress brought on by a culture that ignores God’s commands.
RTFM and live according to His instructions or suffer the due penalties.
See Romans chapter 1.
(I’m not a psychologist - and never stayed in a Holiday Inn - and all of this is just my sincere and humble opinion.)
I’ve never paid much attention to Kinsey - I read the early stuff in my ‘twenties, and put it away. I did pay some attention to the controversy that later surrounded the reports, and that may be the reason for my lack of further interest.
Certainly the Kinsey reports/notoriety had, in the 1950s and later, something to do with the loosening-up of sexual mores in general; but I’m not sure about any influence or impact on the incidence of actual homosexuality (as opposed to homosexual experimentation.)
When we discuss homosexuality within culture, we’re generally discussing male homosexuality; and the male sexual drive is one of the most profound and powerful forces in nature. I think it can generally take only very powerful psychological forces/trauma to ‘turn’ its focus of interest; and that’s where we should probably be looking for causes - though they may lie even deeper than simple early experience, in areas we haven’t yet learned to explore.
I believe that it’s too simple and facile to suggest that this is all just a matter of “choice” and that one simply has to choose ‘differently’. I don’t think it’s even like an addiction, but probably rooted far more deeply than that.
If the hypothesis is true, it merely means that the rise in homosexuality has an extrinsic cause - not intrinsic, meaning there is probably a treatment or cure.
It takes courage in this environment to come out with this kind of info. The social engineers understandably want to suppress such findings.
What this society champions or makes look kewl becomes more common whether it's rockers making drug use look kewl sitcoms and ads making Valley Girl teenagers look kewl, or stoner guys look kewl.
You can see that reality in American culture starting all the way back with beat nicks and copacetic being on the Dobie Gillis Show. Between then and now, parents have grown to accept that level of influence on their children while at one time they fought it. Parental responsibility has gone from an enforced "stay away from X they're a bad influence", to the shrug of "whadda ya' gonna do" if they even know who their kids hang out with. Therefore, the final authority on what is right and wrong or good and bad is more often than not decided by whatever big media shovel out, not the parents.
Young Americans have been trained to be little mimes of whatever the establishment media machine dictates, period. Make being a queer wearing a Kotex in your butt crack look like a good way to be considered hip and worthy of attention and you get more of them, it's really that simple. No genetic or magic connection required.
A witch who co-founded NOW just passed away last week.
Her sister was there at the founding and offered up this set of quotes:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3200158/posts
Marxist Feminism’s Ruined Lives
Frontpagemag.com ^ | 9-2-2014 | Mallory Millett
“When women go wrong men go right after them.” – Mae West
“Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy; its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery.” Winston Churchill wrote this over a century ago.
During my junior year in high school, the nuns asked about our plans for after we graduated. When I said I was going to attend State University, I noticed their disappointment. I asked my favorite nun, “Why?” She answered, “That means you’ll leave four years later a communist and an atheist!”
What a giggle we girls had over that. “How ridiculously unsophisticated these nuns are,” we thought. Then I went to the university and four years later walked out a communist and an atheist, just as my sister Katie had six years before me.
Sometime later, I was a young divorcee with a small child. At the urging of my sister, I relocated to NYC after spending years married to an American executive stationed in Southeast Asia. The marriage over, I was making a new life for my daughter and me. Katie said, “Come to New York. We’re making revolution! Some of us are starting the National Organization of Women and you can be part of it.”
I hadn’t seen her for years. Although she had tormented me when we were youngsters, those memories were faint after my Asian traumas and the break-up of my marriage. I foolishly mistook her for sanctuary in a storm. With so much time and distance between us, I had forgotten her emotional instability.
And so began my period as an unwitting witness to history. I stayed with Kate and her lovable Japanese husband, Fumio, in a dilapidated loft on The Bowery as she finished her first book, a PhD thesis for Columbia University, “Sexual Politics.”
It was 1969. Kate invited me to join her for a gathering at the home of her friend, Lila Karp. They called the assemblage a “consciousness-raising-group,” a typical communist exercise, something practiced in Maoist China. We gathered at a large table as the chairperson opened the meeting with a back-and-forth recitation, like a Litany, a type of prayer done in Catholic Church. But now it was Marxism, the Church of the Left, mimicking religious practice:
“Why are we here today?” she asked.
“To make revolution,” they answered.
“What kind of revolution?” she replied.
“The Cultural Revolution,” they chanted.
“And how do we make Cultural Revolution?” she demanded.
“By destroying the American family!” they answered.
“How do we destroy the family?” she came back.
“By destroying the American Patriarch,” they cried exuberantly.
“And how do we destroy the American Patriarch?” she replied.
“By taking away his power!”
“How do we do that?”
“By destroying monogamy!” they shouted.
“How can we destroy monogamy?”
Their answer left me dumbstruck, breathless, disbelieving my ears. Was I on planet earth? Who were these people?
“By promoting promiscuity, eroticism, prostitution and homosexuality!” they resounded.
They proceeded with a long discussion on how to advance these goals by establishing The National Organization of Women. It was clear they desired nothing less than the utter deconstruction of Western society. The upshot was that the only way to do this was “to invade every American institution. Every one must be permeated with ‘The Revolution’”: The media, the educational system, universities, high schools, K-12, school boards, etc.; then, the judiciary, the legislatures, the executive branches and even the library system.
It fell on my ears as a ludicrous scheme, as if they were a band of highly imaginative children planning a Brinks robbery; a lark trumped up on a snowy night amongst a group of spoiled brats over booze and hashish...
Kate Millett, Influential Feminist Writer, Is Dead at 82
NYT ^ | 9/6/2017 | EIL GENZLINGER
https://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3583835/posts
Were there 6 year old transexuals in schools in 1960 too?
I honestly don’t see a ‘rise’ in homosexualism. I don’t personally encounter any more homosexual people now than I did forty years ago - even though now, it’s far more acceptable for them to present themselves honestly and openly.
I see people ‘coming out’ who would previously have been in the ‘closet’.
(I do worry about the young, impressionable, basically heterosexual people who are being encouraged to experiment and ‘try it on’, simply because it’s being made so fashionable. A lot of them may have to deal with extremely difficult issues later. I also worry that the madness of naming everyone ‘different’ as homosexual is having a very difficult effect upon a lot of people who have always simply been asexual. We are getting into one another’s ‘business’ far too much...)
A lot of people are born with blue eyes whose parents have blue eyes. Homosexuals have sex with other homosexuals, producing no offspring to inherit any traits. The traits end.
I’m sure there is a genetic component....but there’s also a personal choice....a homosexual twin doesn’t necessarily have a homosexual twin...
This is why homosexualism is unNatural.
In a natural environment, a purely homosexual animal is effectually committing genetic suicide.
Why would anyone in, say, the 1950s, choose a lifestyle that was illegal, opened them up to social ostracism, and damaged job prospects? Doesn’t make sense, unless it’s more than an unfettered exercise of free will.
In any case, I used to support them, but once they got what they wanted, they have acted so atrociously they have my limited sympathy but not my support.
I agree. Urges can be fought, but not necessarily stopped.
And I suspect that, over time, urges will win out.
A) A lot of the animal testing is going to involve many times the clinical amount recommended in order to test for possible side effects.
B) People are supposed to avoid birth control pills if they might be pregnant.
C) We are all awash in various hormones as a byproduct of dairy and beef production.
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