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To: Sacajaweau
You love Trump working with Democrats?

I prefer that Trump would ground all business to a halt if his agenda items aren't passed, and blame Congress for not passing a stand-alone Harvey bill.

I would NEVER work with cretins like Schumer and Pelosi.

9 posted on 09/08/2017 1:06:15 PM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist (We're right, you're wrong - that's the end of the argument.)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

The useless party is worse than useless. Bitch-slapping them shows how irrelevant they really are.

I owe them no loyalty.


10 posted on 09/08/2017 1:07:50 PM PDT by goldstategop ((In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever))
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

Look, the voters in their home districts re-elected these RINO turds time and again. We’re not going to get rid of them that way. They get voted into these leadership provisions with nearly unanimous votes by their peers (thank you Rep. Massie), because the status quo is very motivated to maintain it’s status.

We’re only going to get them out of these positions if something changes the above calculus. And one thing that will do that is if their peers have a bellyful and put a ner Speaker and Senate Leader in place. Trump is working toward that end, and in the meantime he’s able to get the upper hand in negotiations with the Dems.

Game theory 101.


17 posted on 09/08/2017 1:17:28 PM PDT by bigbob (People say believe half of what you see son and none of what you hear - M. Gaye)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist
Schumer & Pelosi are anti-American pos's and yet they lawfully hold office. I may be petty but I like when our President lays into them.

Trump's latest moves, after some consideration, has provided the rope to those who oppose MAGA, to hang themselves if they so choose.

I'm not seeing compromise, I see an effective way of placing the responsibility & blame on those that should own it.

Meanwhile, our agenda moves forward.

34 posted on 09/08/2017 1:35:01 PM PDT by NativeSon ( Grease the floor with Crisco when I dance the Disco)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

Trump is a doer. Trump is a dealer. He will never just stubbornly sit still.

I do not like it, but I understand it. I know for whom I voted.

Bottom line: The RNC wants the DNC agenda passed without taking blame for it. I despise them.


36 posted on 09/08/2017 1:38:49 PM PDT by YogicCowboy ("I am not entirely on anyone's side, because no one is entirely on mine." - JRRT)
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“I would NEVER work with cretins like Schumer and Pelosi”

Yep. Kinda concerned the next play in all this is McConnell and Ryan going to Schumer and Pelosi with a ‘better’ offer, ie giving the Dems even more of what they want.

If Trump opens the door to working with Dims, I have little confidence the RINO leadership won’t immediately rush through it. If Ryan and McConnell are feeling humiliated by this, I’m guessing their response is going to be along the lines of pushing Trump into a veto on something so they can then override him with Dim help.


37 posted on 09/08/2017 1:39:39 PM PDT by The Numbers (God, Family and Country is Right.)
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I would NEVER work with cretins like Schumer and Pelosi.

Agreed.

However, in this instance there is ample room to argue Trump intentionally USED Schumer and Pelosi to send a very important message. On balance, one can conclude he got the best of the deal.

At the same time, the message underscores for the rest of us just how impotent the current R leadership is. The party is a) not responsive to its voters (it appears we can be had for the price of a campaign promise);
and b) the leadership is otherwise in dire need of a political testosterone booster. And now, everyone paying attention knows that.

42 posted on 09/08/2017 1:44:20 PM PDT by frog in a pot
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist
You are obviously not as extreme as Trump, myself, or many others on this thread.

You really need a more “moderate and temperate” namesake.

46 posted on 09/08/2017 1:48:08 PM PDT by ConservativeMind (Trump: Befuddling Democrats, Republicans, and the Media for the benefit of the US and all mankind.)
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There is a reason Trump is President, and none of the following are President:

Sitting Senators Cruz, Rubio, Paul
Former Senator Santorum
Sitting Governors Walker, Kasich, Christie
Former Governors Perry, Huckabee, Jindal

The Republicans have run on a popular platform, and managed to take control of the House of Representatives in 2010, the Senate in 2014, the White House in 2016. However, the established Republicans have accomplished very little in enacting the reforms promised during their campaigns.

These elected Republicans seem to be ignoring their campaign promises, and are instead working against the interests of their voters.

In 2016 the voters rejected the established Republicans as presidential candidates, and coalesced around an outsider candidate who has a reputation for getting things done.

Since the congressional Republicans are not willing to work on the same side as our President, I do not have a problem with the President working around the roadblocks put up by the congressional Republicans.


57 posted on 09/08/2017 2:00:17 PM PDT by jeannineinsd
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“You love Trump working with Democrats?”

I don’t like it but I can understand since he can at least trust the Democrats to be the opposition party.

This is in contrast to the Republicans who keep proving that Trump can’t trust them NOT to be the opposition party!


60 posted on 09/08/2017 2:10:49 PM PDT by MeganC (Democrat by birth, Republican by default, conservative by principle.)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

“I prefer that Trump would ground all business to a halt if his agenda items aren’t passed, and blame Congress for not passing a stand-alone Harvey bill...I would NEVER work with cretins like Schumer and Pelosi.”

Except one problem with that. If Trump grounded business, Ryan/McConnell would simply get with Pelosi/Schumer and pin it all on Trump...maybe to the point of teaming up with legislation to override Trump’s vetoes - in other words, a coup, in all but name.

Trump closed off that option to Ryan/McConnell.


87 posted on 09/08/2017 3:26:28 PM PDT by BobL (In Honor of the NeverTrumpers, I declare myself as FR's first 'Imitation NeverTrumper')
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“I would NEVER work with cretins like Schumer and Pelosi.”

That’s ok, you will never be president, either. You won’t be in the position to have to make these types of decisions and maneuvers.


93 posted on 09/08/2017 3:34:13 PM PDT by EDINVA
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist
As a tactic for lighting a fire under the leaderships' asses, particularly on legislation everyone knows is going to pass anyway, I see no problem with it.

However, Trump's tweets on DACA are not encouraging, nor is the position he has so far taken.

There is no need for Republicans to pass enabling legislation for DACA -- in six months or in sixty years -- something which the President has encouraged. We already have immigration laws. If "Dreamers" want to be Americans, there is a process in place to do that, and it involves getting in line.

Trump's statement that absent legislation he will "do something" is the same statement 0bama made in this regard ("if Congress doesn't act, I will".) The President doesn't get to usurp Constitutional authority in the event of legislative inaction. Saying he will is no more acceptable coming from Trump than it was from 0bama.

Anyone the least bit comfortable with the idea that the President can (or should) act to extend an Unconstitutional DHS order -- especially one already repudiated by the Federal Courts -- is a cultist, not a conservative.

101 posted on 09/08/2017 4:19:28 PM PDT by FredZarguna (And what Rough Beast, its hour come 'round at last, slouches toward Fifth Avenue to be born?)
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No, he is not an ideologue -thank God. We have a ton to do and stagnation isn’t doing anyone any good. He’s playing hardball, to do so requires top player participation from both sides. The Republicans thought they had him hamstung...idiots. It’s bigger than that - MAGA.


106 posted on 09/08/2017 4:30:32 PM PDT by jacknhoo (Luke 12:51; Think ye, that I am come to give peace on earth? I tell you, no; but separation.)
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I don’t know if you’ve made politics your religion, but someone who does would take the same position you do on this.


118 posted on 09/08/2017 5:46:21 PM PDT by reasonisfaith ("...because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved." (2 Thessalonians))
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist
I would NEVER work with cretins like Schumer and Pelosi

Wow I would never ever thought you would buck President Trump but I think you are 100% correct.

Making a good deal with the devil is still a deal with the devil. You have sold your soul and you better look out because they own you. Just wait for the Chucky Schumer smile and you know your done.

I would have liked to seen us in Texas fend for ourselves then for him to sell out the rest of the US. We can handle it, not sure about the rest of the US.

129 posted on 09/09/2017 3:36:33 AM PDT by eartick (Been to the line in the sand and liked it, but ready to go again)
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You miss the point.

Think of the process as a good old fashioned ass chewing by the boss. The problem is not Republicans, but a few recalcitrants who need to be encouraged to toe the line.

what is most important.....America or Planned Parenthood? Well, john you pissed everybody off, are you going to get back in the fold or must we make you cancerous life more difficult?

Trump got his hurricane money and the debt ceiling is not worth fighting over in September 2017.


141 posted on 09/09/2017 5:00:44 AM PDT by bert (K.E.; N.P.; GOPc;WASP .... The Fourth Estate is the Fifth Column)
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I would NEVER work with cretins like Schumer and Pelosi.

They'll stab Trump in the back (politically speaking...) at their first opportunity and twist the knife for good measure.

The enemy of my enemy is not my friend. Where's that in "The Art of the Deal?"

148 posted on 09/09/2017 6:38:07 AM PDT by usconservative (When The Ballot Box No Longer Counts, The Ammunition Box Does. (What's In Your Ammo Box?))
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He could, undoubtedly, just blame Congress for not passing a stand alone Harvey bill, but you know darned well the MSM, Democrats, Rinos, NeverTrumpers, et al, would unfairly lay the failure right at HIS feet. His message is loud and clear: “You’re not going to blame YOUR lack of movement on ME!”


158 posted on 09/09/2017 9:02:41 AM PDT by Flaming Conservative
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I think Trump is playing a smart game here. He is under no illusions about the Demon Rat leadership. But he also knows he can give them a temporary victory and hopefully rouse the Republicans from their drowsy strolls.


167 posted on 09/09/2017 5:20:00 PM PDT by SoFloFreeper
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Agreed. Schumer and Piglosi are the worst of the worst. This is a huge screwing of the taxpayers, conservatives, and the people who put faith in Trump.


171 posted on 09/10/2017 12:40:57 PM PDT by Neoliberalnot (Marxism works well only with the uneducated and the unarmed)
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