Posted on 09/07/2017 8:09:47 AM PDT by NautiNurse
Dangerous Category 5 Hurricane Irma had a devastating impact on islands in the Caribbean.
Hurricane and Storm surge watches were issued Thursday morning for South Florida. The Florida Keys began evacuating visitors and residents, followed by flood zones in Miami and Miami Beach. Sarasota FL declared a local state of emergency Thursday morning.
Polk County FL Sheriff Grady Judd said Wednesday that law enforcement authorities would check the identities of people who turn up at shelters--and take to jail anyone found to have an active arrest warrant. “If you go to a shelter for Irma and you have a warrant, we’ll gladly escort you to the safe and secure shelter called the Polk County Jail... “If you have a warrant, turn yourself in to the jail — it’s a secure shelter.” Judd also posted that sex offenders and sex predators would not be admitted to the shelters. "We cannot and we will not have innocent children in a shelter with sexual offenders & predators. Period." Judd's statements unleashed a liberal firestorm via Twitter.
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Sadly, that’s when people die.
They’ll be the ones clogging up 911 with calls for help in the teeth of the storm when it is not possible for anyone to go out and help, and yet will expect someone to try to come and *save* them.
Like going out in a storm is the smart thing to do when it’s bad enough to be destroying your house.
*sigh*
Thank God your mom has more sense than them.
“the wild card in all this, a “tropical storm” over the mountains of Eastern Tennessee....”
How far west do you see it going — Sevierville or such?
Oh my.....
That sounds like a fine tactic !
I can’t imagine that massive amount of rain in the mountains.
Welcome! All my family is in Charleston/Folly Beach/James Island/Isle of Palms and Mt. Pleasant!
Praying for all of us!
yes and amen. i just wonder how an old hospital will withstand a cat 5? In previous hurricanes, many were wiped out.
But not much we can do from here but trust the Lord.
mom is a retired RN, was an EMT prior to that. But she is terrified of any storm.
Certainly interesting weather these days..easy to say since I’m far from the events happening now. Still find myself on pins and needles at times when this beast growls one way then the other....and now with ‘little brother’ trailing behind Irma...sheesh! What more!.....Tommorrow’s Saturday so I suppose Fatboy Kim’s going to celebrate and blast another missile.....
mom has emergency training too but not sure what she can do in her condition.
I’ve worked many emergencies, and its just like you say. The scariest patient is the frightened one.
The scariest call is the fake one who want to rob the bus and kill you for the drugs.
Per nurse's guidelines for the thread (useful information, not just chatter), everyone in the path of the storm should have a checklist. You can expand on the ones below, of course, but have a baseline of preparation done ASAP:
I cannot emphasize enough the importance of medication for you or your loved ones. If your medications require refrigeration (i.e. insulin), have a cooler set aside for them with plenty of ice. You can freeze zip lock bags that are 2/3 full of water and have them ready if you don't have ice packs.
You should have a weather radio, so when the power goes out you can recieve information and updates.
Go to this webpage, select your state, and write down the frequency for the NOAA updates in your area:
http://www.nws.noaa.gov/nwr/coverage/station_listing.html
DuncanWaring - can you ping the prepper list? I am sure they can add some very good and useful information here. Just ask them that if they post on the thread to include concrete uselful info per thread guidelines on post#1 from nauti nurse.
This storm has much uncertainty in it.....enough that people should not wait for forecasts.
The smart people started to move out on Tuesday.
The vast majority of people left in South Florida are risking death and should not be given sympathy.
Now might be a good time for residents of south Florida to review their high skool physics, particularly as it pertains to wind.
The pressure of wind on a vertical surface is, in theory, a function of the SQUARE of wind speed. Therefore, the wind pressure applied to a window or a wall, if wind speed doubles (let’s say from 75 mph to 150 mph), doesn’t double — it increases by four times. A sobering thought, if you’ve been through a minimal hurricane with “only” 75 mph winds.
And I say the fourfold increase is “in theory” because it gets worse. In an area with tall buildings, you get a canyon effect — walk around any sizeable downtown on a breezy day, and you’ll notice that a gentle 10 mph wind may become 20 or more when you go around a corner.
Further, wind speeds are higher at higher elevations, such as the 20th or 50th floors. Glass is therefore more likely to be blown out on the 50th floor than on the ground floor.
And then, there’s the flying debris. Maybe your windows will remain intact in a 100 mph wind. But will they survive tree branches, shingles, and other debris flying at 100 mph? Obviously, the effect is cumulative. Once debris gets airborne, it breaks things, and causes more debris.
We’ve had little experience with a Cat 4 or 5 hurricane directly hitting a densly populated major downtown area, but we may get it this time. Outright building collapses due to wind would be rare (storm surges are a different matter), but major “blowouts” of glass curtainwalls in highrise office buildings, hotels, and condos could well occur. Buildings flex and torque in high winds, sometimes enough to cause massive failures of their glass “skins.”
Anyone determined to ride out Irma in a Miami, Miami Beach, or Ft. Lauderdale highrise needs to be prepared to move to concrete stairwells and elevator lobbies (I’d take a bottle of wine and a corkscrew, but that’s just me) should a direct hit occur. Get away from the glass!
Is Mom leaving?Haven’t had time to read your other posts.Welcome to Forum.((((Hugs))))
Seeing it as a Cat that far out did it for me.
A LOT of people were also saying the same thing about Irma.
Just a really BAD feeling about it.
“Is Tierra Verde in Zone A? I’ve been trying to access the map showing the zones but, for some reason, it won’t open in my system.”
The Tierra Verde in Pinellas County is Zone A.
Then they should move to the south side of the island. It’ll be in the lee of the wind. Find a place no lower than 20 foot elevation.>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Note that the storm suges for the USVI and BVI were 40 feet
high. Not many structures one can find over 40 feet high that are strong enough to survive 200 mile winds.Get on the highest pint f landf and into an underground shelter or concrete basement
“Is Tierra Verde in Zone A? I’ve been trying to access the map showing the zones but, for some reason, it won’t open in my system.”
Mine too. Grrr!!! Here’s what I used. Nice, big map after you click to magnify:
http://www.stpete.org/hurricane/docs/county_evacation_map_1.gif
Thanks so much!!
Just don’t go anywhere near a river or creek, stay well above them. And, avoid very steep hillsides, especially any that have been recently cleared or graded, landslides. An elevated plateau would be ideal.
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