Idaho Police Department Thanks 'Heroic' Nurse For Standing Up To Utah Cop

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[Celtic Conservative]

And computer programmers are opinionated dickheads. Maybe not all of them ,but more than enough to make the statement.

Hey, that broad brush works pretty well on you, too!

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[DoughtyOne]

Thank you for filling in for BLM and ANTIFA in their absence.

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[Gay State Conservative]

I worked in a big city ER for years.Although I never encountered anything like that on any of my shifts it's the kind of thing where,if it happened during "off hours",we would have paged the Administrator On Call who,probably,would have called one of the lawyers.

However,the city police department and our staff always had very friendly relations (half our nurses were married to cops) so something like that almost certainly would never have happened.

[af_vet_rr]

What were all those guys standing around as she was pleading for someone to help her?

Cowards.

They stood by and did nothing while a cop with no legal business to be there, no warrant at all, assaulted a woman trying to do her job and also trying to protect the rights of an innocent victim.

Makes you wonder what those cops standing around would do if that nurse had been their wife.

[af_vet_rr]

ping jockey: It’s the out of control a$$holes like this that give LE a black eye. Every dept. in every city and backwater in the U S should do themselves a favor and , if possible, ferret out morons like this in advance. I have more than one candidate locally that most assuredly do not have the public interest at heart and should go.

DIRTYSECRET: Justice will be slow. Nothing that doesn’t include jail time will be sufficient. His retirement benefits? How about his nest egg including his home? These cops are not good people. Their ‘blue code’ is what makes them bad.

Police departments do not ferret out the "bad cops" because they are good little boys and girls who do what the union chiefs say, and the union chiefs say to protect the bad cops at all costs.

None of these cops will be impacted financially, and very few do jail time - their bosses, the police chiefs, the mayors and city councils, are far too afraid to go against any cop union. Policiticans are desperate to get the favor of the cop unions, because the cop unions are willing to do and spend whatever it takes to defeat any politician who doesn't meet their requirements.

[Roman_War_Criminal]

Payne needs to spend time in prison for this gross violation of the law.

It’s cops like him that give the credibility to the hate cop crowd.

[af_vet_rr]

I strongly disagree with your characterization of all cops as morons. Makes me kind of wonder why you have such an extreme problem with all cops. A great many cops are heroes, despite the actions of some.

There are brave cops who will do the right thing if given the chance, but then they turn around and give money and time to cop unions who will protect the bad cops and the misdeeds of those cops. Those cop unions will do anything to stop additional accountability and transparency being placed on the actions of cops, good and bad. They spit in the face of the taxpayers - those of us paying their salaries.

[Navy Patriot]

Over a near fifty year period, ours went from a group of local husbands and fathers working part time as Peace Officers, to college eddicated, academy trained, Revenue Officers, whose families always did well "managing funds" in assorted businesses and charities. At least until the word "embezzlement" started going around.

But, a couple of successful prosecutions later, ya could still easily find a cop around town, just look a little ways down any cross street from any stop sign.

The turning point was when the Chief and his wife weekended in Las Vegas, and his teenage kids had a little house party.

One 14 year old girl was held and raped for two days in the Chief's house, and it took a county Deputy Sheriff to get her out.

[af_vet_rr]

In the Army, if a soldier screwed up and dishonored the ranks, no one liked him, it was shameful. In cop circles they always defend the perp. Just a casual look on Army forum and the reaction about a potentially bad soldier is quite different than the reaction about a potentially bad cop in a cop forum.

As an officer in the Air Force, had I witnessed another officer or airman engaging in an illegal order or behavior, or giving an illegal order, and I did nothing and said nothing, I would be in a world of sh-t, and my career could have very well been over. Same goes for the Army, Navy, and Marine Corps.

But if a cop witnesses another cop doing something illegal or going against department policy, it's just all in a day's work for far too many of them.. And if a cop stands by and does nothing while another cop does something bad, the union will protect both.

[CodeToad]

“So the Idaho cops are morons too?”

Yes. Next question.

[matthew fuller]

I believe that all public (government) employee unions should be outlawed. There is absolutely no reasonable or fair place for two groups of people to negotiate what a third group has to pay one of the first two groups, with no representatives of the paying group.

[Darksheare]

Prior to the drug and other evidence vanishing in Sussex, there were some hushed up “boys will be boys” incidents. (The going party line at tge time)

Had the Wallkill NY PD pulling over women, sexually harassing them, assaulting the boyfriends or husbands when they objected, stalked those who resisted the requests for sex, the usual corrupt crap.
So finally they got nailed, but there were some token firings and a wrist slap.
Then NY attirney general elliot spitzer put a watchdog over them for awhile.
Still don’t trust them.

[Fred Hayek]

I would also bet that Utah cops will not be popular with Idaho police for a while.
I’ve known some departments to “return the favor” when one of theirs is abused.

[CodeToad]

“Thank you for filling in for BLM and ANTIFA in their absence.”

Well, DO, maybe you can explain why the cops in both Charlottesville and Berkeley aided Antifa in attacking Americans by both funneling their victims into kill boxes and then running away to let the melee happen. Go ahead, we’ll wait for your childishly snotty response.

The cops in both cities were complicit.

[Ken H]

I will withhold judgment on all of this until I know all of the facts and not just the commenters on a YouTube video one thing I did note is it looked like the department did not suspend him from work but just from picking up blood evidence at the hospital. I think if they thought I did something wrong they probably would have suspended him and send him home on administrative leave.

They placed Officer Payne on administrative leave, along with one other. The chief and mayor apologized, and Payne is now the subject of a criminal investigation.

So, do you still need more facts?

[Fred Hayek]

Yet Rigby was very likely loaded with painkillers administered by the hospital due to his injuries. So no good would that do. Payne was in a major CYA mode, and it backfired.

[Fred Hayek]

He was supposed to have been a licensed phlebotomist. If so, he would have known damn well what the legal requirements would be.

[Ken H]

I wonder what would havee happened had there been no recording. I have no doubt they would have lied and the nurse’s life would have been ruined.

[Navy Patriot]

I will withhold judgment on all of this until I know all of the facts and not just the commenters on a YouTube video...

OK, just for fun, let's look at some of the facts available JUST ON THIS THREAD.

Detective Jeff Payne has since been suspended from the police department’s blood-draw program, Salt Lake City Police Sergeant Brandon Shearer told The Salt Lake Tribune. The program is intended to train officers as phlebotomist so they can obtain blood samples.

Also, “implied consent” hasn’t been in Utah law since 2007. The United States Supreme Court also ruled in 2016 that the Constitution does permit officers to obtain breath tests without a warrant in drunken-driving cases, but not blood draws.

Being as Payne has been trained as a phlebotomist, he would be able to elucidate the need for immediate collection of the blood sample if, in fact, the sample would degrade in or out of the body very quickly before he could obtain a warrant.

Payne did not do so, likely because the blood sample is not time critical, the experienced and trained nurse knew so, and Payne knew he could not get a warrant otherwise.

Considering Payne was a trained phlebotomist, his conduct was even more reprehensible and illegal.

... it looked like the department did not suspend him from work but just from picking up blood evidence at the hospital.

Payne has been placed on leave with pay. He has also been suspended from the phlebotomist training program.

[Harmless Teddy Bear]

Breath and urine test. Blood no.