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After Nurse Assault, Salt Lake City Makes the Bleeding Worse
townhall.com ^ | 9/4/2017 | Shawn Mitchell

Posted on 09/04/2017 7:54:51 AM PDT by rktman

By now, most people probably have seen the disturbing video of a Salt Lake City Cop manhandling and arresting a University of Utah nurse for doing her job, following protocol, and protecting an unconscious patient in her care. The chaotic scene can be viewed here.

In brief, Detective Jeff Payne demanded access to an unconscious accident victim who was suspected of no wrongdoing in order to draw the man’s blood for the police investigation. Nurse Alex Wubbels cited hospital policy and an apparent agreement with the police department that allows a blood draw only with patient consent, or a warrant, or if the patient is under arrest. As none of those elements were present, she declined. Payne pressed the issue and radioed a desk lieutenant who instructed Payne to arrest Wubbles if she did not comply. Wubbles had a hospital lawyer on a cell phone speaker, who advised Payne he was “making a huge mistake.” Payne lost patience and his cool, yelled “We’re done here. You’re under arrest!” and charged and grabbed Wubbels, handcuffed her, and pushed her out the door toward his vehicle while she screamed “Help! I’ve done nothing wrong! This is crazy!”

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TOPICS: Government; Philosophy; US: Utah
KEYWORDS: 4thamendment; crankwalkin; donutwatch; illegalarrest; nurse; nursearrested; slc; slcpd
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To: rktman
Payne pressed the issue and radioed a desk lieutenant who instructed Payne to arrest Wubbles if she did not comply.

And, at least 4 other cops stood by and watched this happen.

Can we all now dispense with the "few bad apples" theory?

If you stand by and watch (or cover up) abuse by another cop, YOU are corrupt too.

There are a lot of cops standing by with their hands in their pockets these days.

41 posted on 09/04/2017 9:16:04 AM PDT by Mr.Unique (The government, by its very nature, cannot give except what it first takes.)
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To: Carl Vehse

The Lt is seen in the latter part of the long version video. Classic asshole. He talks and won’t listen. At one point he says, “Your policy is getting in the way of my (chest beating gesture) law!”


42 posted on 09/04/2017 9:20:00 AM PDT by Mr.Unique (The government, by its very nature, cannot give except what it first takes.)
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To: MeganC

The irony is that the victim was a reserve police officer for a small Idaho town.

Yes, they wanted a blood sample for a blood alcohol test/drug screen, hence the “urgency” to prevent the “evidence” being lost via metabolic process or contaminated by medical procedure.


43 posted on 09/04/2017 9:24:00 AM PDT by nuke_road_warrior (Making the world safe for nuclear power for over 20 years)
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To: Sequoyah101
That was a Costco in Las Vegas.

https://lasvegassun.com/news/2010/sep/24/shoppers-recount-police-shooting-outside-costco/


44 posted on 09/04/2017 9:25:39 AM PDT by Mr.Unique (The government, by its very nature, cannot give except what it first takes.)
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To: rktman

The cop committed a crime of assault and needs to be fired. The nurse needs to sue the town for millions of dollars.


45 posted on 09/04/2017 9:29:05 AM PDT by I want the USA back (Lying Media: completely irresponsible. Complicit in the destruction of this country.)
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To: Mr.Unique

Thank you. Yes. I was wrong. It was Costco in Las Vegas.

That guy looks like Curley Joe of course.


46 posted on 09/04/2017 9:30:56 AM PDT by Sequoyah101 (It feels like we have exchanged our dreams for survival. We just have a few days that don't suck.)
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To: rktman

Simple fix. You wake a judge up, have a probable cause statement and affidavit already filled out, email it, he/she looks it over and signs the search warrant electronically.

Ten minutes tops. You show the ER doctor, give him/her a copy of the return and get the blood draw or someone else gets arrested for obstructing an investigation, per the judges order.

This is important. While respecting privacy and Hippocratic oath are important, the need for justice is going to override those sometimes, particularly if the evidence needed to show impairment is being destroyed every minute that is being wasted.

We have enough drunks killing innocents in this nation.


47 posted on 09/04/2017 9:32:17 AM PDT by Molon Labbie (Kim Jon Un. Entered the world stage Unopposed, led Unapologetically, died Unidentified.)
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To: null and void
Can't say as I fault her for that. Getting pulled over on any pretext every time you leave the house can get very wearing...

Maybe police would be childish enough to pull a payback by harassment. But, how would you like to be an injured cop in uniform heading to her ER after your brethren cops had harassed her after illegally arresting her and have her or her sympathetic workmates hovering over your bleeding body ? Paybacks can literally be a beyoch sometimes.
48 posted on 09/04/2017 9:38:23 AM PDT by redcatcherb412
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To: rktman

This cop should be in jail. His fellow cops, who cowardly stood by during the assault, should be fired.


49 posted on 09/04/2017 9:38:28 AM PDT by Lexington Green (Sun Tzu Trumps Saul Alinsky)
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To: null and void
Can't say as I fault her for that. Getting pulled over on any pretext every time you leave the house can get very wearing...

Payne is on video suggesting he might retaliate against the hospital.

50 posted on 09/04/2017 9:44:21 AM PDT by Mr.Unique (The government, by its very nature, cannot give except what it first takes.)
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To: Mr.Unique

When the heck did they give Curly Howard a badge?


51 posted on 09/04/2017 9:47:18 AM PDT by Nik Naym (It's not my fault... I have compulsive smart-ass disorder.)
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To: Mr.Unique

Did he now? I’m shocked, just SHOCKED I tell you...


52 posted on 09/04/2017 9:48:12 AM PDT by null and void (I don't expect to live in a safe world. I expect to live in a free country. Respect the Constitution)
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To: MeganC
The SLC Police were involved in a CRIMINAL CONSPIRACY to frame an INNOCENT MAN so they could avoid a lawsuit.

Probably not the first time, either.

53 posted on 09/04/2017 9:48:46 AM PDT by TexasKamaAina
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To: rktman
The desk lieutenant approved the arrest?!

I have one word for local taxpayers: INCOMING!!!

54 posted on 09/04/2017 9:51:33 AM PDT by mewzilla (Was Obama surveilling John Roberts? Might explain a lot.)
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To: MeganC

I’m usually the last person to call for DOJ involvement after a case like this, but after the city doubling down, I think it’s needed here.


55 posted on 09/04/2017 10:00:47 AM PDT by mewzilla (Was Obama surveilling John Roberts? Might explain a lot.)
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To: redcatcherb412; null and void
Maybe police would be childish enough to pull a payback by harassment. But, how would you like to be an injured cop in uniform heading to her ER after your brethren cops had harassed her after illegally arresting her and have her or her sympathetic workmates hovering over your bleeding body ? Paybacks can literally be a beyoch sometimes.

I could see the nurses using the largest needles in the ER on the offending cop if he shows up there needing a draw or an IV. Technically it wouldn't be wrong - just painful.

56 posted on 09/04/2017 10:10:24 AM PDT by COBOL2Java (RuPaul and Yertle - our illustrious Republican leaders up the Hill - God help us!)
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To: Ronaldus Magnus

Bada bing


57 posted on 09/04/2017 10:13:20 AM PDT by wardaddy (Virtue signalers should be shot on sight...conservative ones racked and hanged then fed to dogs)
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To: rktman

Hippocampus


58 posted on 09/04/2017 10:16:38 AM PDT by Covenantor (Men are ruled...by liars who refuse them news, and by fools who cannot govern. " Chesterton)
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To: PJ-Comix
Just stick with original story, not prints. Please.

It's fairly standard to post the print version.

What has happened to manners around here? You could say thank you.

59 posted on 09/04/2017 10:22:47 AM PDT by ladyjane
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To: PAR35

That is the problem, good ones who look like the other way and allow bad cops to keep on being bad cops. There is no professional standards, much like teachers. They want to be treated like professionals but won’t police their own. In this day and age good cops and departments have to step up and changes made,

In my small town we have approximately 22-24 officers, we have one officer who openly in uniform goes into known illegal gambling dens and gambles. His fellow officers know it and most of the community. Sadly the chief knows as well yet let’s it go on. Crap like this destroys the publics trust quicker than anything. The known illegal gambling, ignored as well as the illegal activities of the officer. Twenty-five years ago this same department was busted by the Feds and several officers sent to prison. How quickly they forget the public is not stupid and is watching.


60 posted on 09/04/2017 10:24:01 AM PDT by sarge83
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