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Officer placed on leave as DA launches criminal investigation into arrest of Utah nurse
Fox13 SLC ^ | 9/1/2017 | Mark Green

Posted on 09/01/2017 7:56:22 PM PDT by Valpal1

Salt Lake City Mayor Jackie Biskupski announced that as a result of the criminal investigation being launched by the Salt Lake County District Attorney, Detective Jeff Payne will be placed on full administrative leave with pay.

Later Friday night, police stated two employees are on administrative leave. It was not immediately clear who the second employee is.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; US: Utah
KEYWORDS: donutwatch; jeffpayne; jeffreypayne; leo; police; slc; utah
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To: vette6387
Plus now, he’s dead!

Oh?

Got a link??

181 posted on 09/02/2017 12:39:09 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: DownInFlames

You are correct, the nurse followed hospital policy, and the law. She was in the right and if she pursues it she will get a nice chunk of money.

Another issue, most of the law concerning getting a blood test without consent, without warrant pertains to people that are under arrest. I think the reason hospital policy is what it is has to do with liability and HIPAA, along with other laws and case decisions since HIPAA became law. I don’t think many posters realize how the passage of HIPAA actually seriously restricted LE actions on patients. Before HIPAA LE could basically go to a hospital and do as they pleased. HIPAA makes medical professionals and their employer responsible for patient rights. Legally hospitals can no longer allow things that are contrary to law- and if they do they are responsible.

The hospital policy only allowed blood draws for or by LE if circumstances were one of three:

Patient consent; if that is the case the hospital/personnel are off the hook- the patient themselves made the decision.

Patient is under arrest; if that is the case the agency that arrested him is responsible for legalities of things they request or do to the patient. Again hospital/personnel off the hook for LE decisions.

Law Enforcement has warrant; in this case a judge has signed off on the request, putting responsibility on judge/LE Agency. Again the hospital is not responsible for actions done or ordered by LEO if there is a warrant. I do have to note I am aware of a case where there was a warrant but LE asked doctor to do more than warrant called for, and he complied with request- lawsuit lost by doctor and hospital on that one.

In all those circumstances the hospital and their personnel are off the hook for legalities of decisions made that LEO wants done or to do themselves to a patient.

If the hospital gets into exigent circumstances, probable cause and other details of law, then they are in the position of determining law and intent of that law. If they are wrong they are responsible for actions they do or allow to be done to patients by LEO under HIPAA and other laws governing patient care and rights.


182 posted on 09/02/2017 12:48:22 PM PDT by Tammy8 (Please be a regular supporter of Free Republic !)
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To: vette6387

He died. I did not know.

How much medical attention did he NOT receive at a critical moment because his nurse was being harassed by this detective?!

Perhaps this is a small part of why he didn’t make it.

Shameful.

The mayor needs to grow a pair and order the detective arrested for assault (against the nurse) and interfering with a medical emergency at the least.


183 posted on 09/02/2017 1:20:08 PM PDT by Alas Babylon! (Keep fighting the Left and their Fake News!)
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To: vette6387
...The trucker was from Idaho, and he died.

1. It was still a fishing expedition and nothing more.

2. I think the cop is in even more trouble now. There is certainly a claim that his interference in the victim's treatment contributed to the death of the victim. This is a criminal issue.

184 posted on 09/02/2017 1:29:15 PM PDT by CurlyDave
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To: Alas Babylon!; All

I just did some additional research and came up with this:”An Idaho police department is thanking a Utah nurse for stopping a Salt Lake City officer from obtaining a blood sample from one of their reserve officers who was unconscious in a hospital.
Police in the eastern Idaho town of Rigby said Friday that William Gray was severely injured in a Utah crash in July when the semi-truck he was driving for work was hit by another car.
Rigby police said in a statement they didn’t know until Thursday that the nurse was arrested after refusing to allow blood to be drawn from Gray.
The department thanked the nurse, Alex Wubbels, and hospital “for standing firm” and protecting the Gray’s rights.
It says he is still hospitalized.”

So what I read earlier and reported is evidently not true. Wm. Gray, the injured truck driver is alive and still hospitalized!


185 posted on 09/02/2017 1:37:23 PM PDT by vette6387
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To: Valpal1

The incident happened well over a month ago.

Getting the video out lit a fire under someone’s ass.


187 posted on 09/02/2017 2:31:42 PM PDT by Mr.Unique (The government, by its very nature, cannot give except what it first takes.)
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To: HarleyLady27

The roided up loud mouth who lectured her in the car afterwards and wouldn’t talk with administrators should also be fired.

Then sent to prison.


188 posted on 09/02/2017 2:33:51 PM PDT by Mr.Unique (The government, by its very nature, cannot give except what it first takes.)
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To: KeyLargo
This was not his first such conduct and interaction with the public.

What else has he been involved in?

189 posted on 09/02/2017 2:37:13 PM PDT by Mr.Unique (The government, by its very nature, cannot give except what it first takes.)
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To: Leaning Right
Can you imagine how this would have turned out had there been no video of the incident? Cop: the nurse took an aggressive stance, then she lunged at me. I backed away. Then I think she tried to grab my gun. That’s when I had to restrain her.

And we would have most of FR's cop groupies here telling us how SHE should be executed.

190 posted on 09/02/2017 2:40:43 PM PDT by Mr.Unique (The government, by its very nature, cannot give except what it first takes.)
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To: anton

What department are you with?


191 posted on 09/02/2017 2:45:13 PM PDT by Mr.Unique (The government, by its very nature, cannot give except what it first takes.)
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To: anton
Yea, I was probably just trolling this thread. I’m in a bad mood.

You are an embarrassment to FR.

192 posted on 09/02/2017 2:49:36 PM PDT by Mr.Unique (The government, by its very nature, cannot give except what it first takes.)
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To: anton

Stop diggin, son.


193 posted on 09/02/2017 3:00:59 PM PDT by Spruce
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To: Waverunner

What is amazing to me is that if the trucker was in ICU, he has already had blood draws and tox has already been run so that the treating docs know what they are dealing with.

PD’s actions were for nothing.


194 posted on 09/02/2017 3:11:09 PM PDT by Clay Moore (MAGA)
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To: vette6387

You posted:

“u are so wrong I wouldn’t know where to start. Cops have no right to violate the Constitutional protections we enjoy as citizens.”

I think we are now getting down to a few folks like you who are the dumbest of the dumb.

You still think that a nurse’s Constitutional rights are violated by taking someone else’s blood. Or, even more moronic, that a 3rd party (the nurse) can assert someone else’s Constitutional rights.

Holy crap! We are in trouble if you are any example of the thought processes of our conservative community.


195 posted on 09/02/2017 3:27:34 PM PDT by anton
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To: anton

I think she has the duty to safeguard an incapacitated person, which is what she was actually doing.

No cop has the authority to swan into a burn unit and start giving medical personnel orders. This cop is going to be fired because in a pissing match between the medical community and the police union who do you think commands both the moral high ground and community respect?


196 posted on 09/02/2017 3:40:48 PM PDT by Valpal1 (I am grown weary.)
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To: Valpal1

“in a pissing match between the medical community and the police union who do you think commands both the moral high ground and community respect?”

==

What you are saying is that the deck is stacked——against the cop.

How nice./s

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197 posted on 09/02/2017 3:43:18 PM PDT by Mears
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To: Valpal1

No cop has the authority to swan into a burn unit and start giving medical personnel orders. This cop is going to be fired because in a pissing match between the medical community and the police union who do you think commands both the moral high ground and community respect?


This ^^^ is the first sensible thing that has been posted in support of the nurse.

And, the cop will be fired.


198 posted on 09/02/2017 3:50:18 PM PDT by anton
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To: Leaning Right

The truck driver was unconscious. He has the right to deny a blood test.


199 posted on 09/02/2017 3:58:47 PM PDT by cornfedcowboy (C)
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To: vette6387
So what I read earlier and reported is evidently not true. Wm. Gray, the injured truck driver is alive and still hospitalized!

You owned up to your mistake like a man.

Good for you.

200 posted on 09/02/2017 4:00:56 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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