Posted on 08/29/2017 7:14:17 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
Right, right, “it’s just one poll.” But it isn’t. A few weeks ago, PPP had Flake’s approval rating in Arizona a breezy 18/63 overall, including 22/57 among Republicans. JMC Analytics, the firm responsible for this new survey, has him at 22/67 among Republicans. So intense is anti-Flake sentiment among Arizona GOPers in the wake of his feud with Trump that Kelli Ward, a comparatively weak candidate, has more than doubled him up here.
It’d be unusual for a youngish incumbent not to run for reelection in the belief that he can’t possibly win. U.S. senators are, by definition, good at running statewide races and Flake will have plenty of establishment financial support. He’s also a man on a mission: He believes he and other conservatarians are battling populists for the soul of the GOP so he’s probably less inclined than the average incumbent to surrender in the belief that it’s not worth fighting for his job. And yet, if the polling continues to look like this over the next few months, pressure on him to quit may grow even from some of his supporters. If he looks like a sure loser either in the primary or the general, better that he step aside and let the party nominate a solid Republican with a chance of winning.
By a three-to-one margin, Arizona GOPers want anyone but Flake. And yes, the Trump feud is most definitely hurting him. Trump enjoys a 78/22 approval rating among Arizona Republicans, not blockbuster but solid enough to cause a disfavored incumbent like Flake lots of pain. Remember that tweet Trump fired at him a few weeks ago? JMC asked GOPers if it made them more or less likely to support the incumbent:
Fifty-six percent of Arizona Republicans say Trump’s endorsement would make them more likely to back a candidate versus 19 percent who say it’d make them less likely. Who do you think is winning that battle for the GOP’s soul?
Serious question: How does this dynamic change for Flake? It’s unthinkable that he and Trump would reconcile. It’s possible, I guess, that Trump’s own popularity will tank so sharply among Republicans that there’ll be no political price for being on his bad side, but that’s also almost unthinkable. Even a president who’s bottomed out nationally will probably still draw majority approval among his own party. The only obvious prospect for a turnaround for Flake is if the congressional GOP starts passing all sorts of major base-pleasing legislation. At the moment, that also appears virtually unthinkable.
Trump wants this war, too. Even if Flake started voting with him more often (and he already votes with him on nearly everything, including the Senate health-care bill), the president’s populist inner circle is eager to make an example of an establishmentarian. Flake is a target of both passion, given his frequent criticism of Trump, and of opportunity, in light of his weakness in Arizona. Trump can send a message to the Senate GOP by trying to knock him out, pour encourager les autres:
Most members of Congress are arrogant, and until a scalp is actually taken they are going to continue to be defiant, longtime Trump friend Roger Stone told The Hill. All he needs to do is punish one incumbent and I think youd see a sea-change.…
He is 100 percent correct to go after McCain, Flake, Murkowksi, said Sam Nunberg, who worked as an aide to Trumps 2016 campaign.
Nunberg also expressed the hope that Trump would be able to engineer the defeat of Collins in a GOP primary if she sought to become Maines governor.
You know what I think: Flake could always drop out of the Senate race, regroup, then run a kamikaze conservatarian primary challenge to Trump in 2020. He wouldn’t win but he’d force a solid one-quarter to one-third of the party to think hard about casting a vote of no confidence in the president by supporting him instead.
Exit question: Why did Sarah Palin sell her home in Arizona? She’s a populist and a friend of POTUS. She would have been well positioned to challenge Flake herself this year.
I would love for that to be the case. Shut both Flake and McLame both up.
Why did this not happen for John McLaim?
Why Any 2020 GOP Challenge to Trump Is Doomed
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-gop/3581415/posts
RE: Why did this not happen for John McLaim?
Because during his primary, he promised to help repeal Obamacare.Now, it’s too late. He has another 5 years in the Senate.
Let’s say a Flake immolation does push the RINO witnesses to fear; what’re they then going to do; vote against their deep state interests? Rock and a hard place, man.
Very happy with the poll numbers so far. I will be donating to and working for Kelli Ward. Flake is the most hated of all senators, hated even worse than McCain.
He’s a war hero, ya know. McLame has gotten more miles out of that than anyone in military history.
There are millions of men and women that have served in our military. McCain is no more a hero than most of them. He just happened to be shot down and caught. His life outside of the military has been quite deplorable.
And McLame, being a Chosen One among the degenerate left DNC leadership, has had access to the same vote fraud machine that the DNC offers to its own career political criminals.
I think Flake is done for.
Several reasons.
1. He began early with a terrible blitz of negative advertising against Kelli, outspending her 10:1. This time, she has money and Flakey does not.
2. McTurd was given one last chance by AZ and I personally know three people who voted for him who say if they could do it over they’d vote for her. But he lied just enough.
3. McTurd, unlike Flakey, has a very strong “retirement” vote that still remembers him from Vietnam and as a conservative Congressman, not as the nutjob he has become.
Let’s send Flake down to an ignoble defeat -— SUPPORT KELLI WARD. Don’t fall for any Establishment schemes (they’ll certainly attempt to do that) to stand up additional “challengers” to split the anti-Flake vote.
“Why did this not happen for John McLaim?”
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Primarily money — including “leftover” millions from his earlier presidential race that the dumbass didn’t think he needed to spend. Plus a bunch of lies and empty promises he made.
Give me credit for the $35 I sent her. You folks musta helped a lot also. Wouldn’t it be nice if Hatch and Corker saw the ‘writing on the wall’ and took themselves out? Heller can run for Gov.-I’ve posted it before. Now if Alexander and others who are up in 2020 could just retire after the election and allow GOP Governor(s) to appoint someone to finish out their terms and thereby gain incumbency status.
McCain OWNS Arizona. If he runs, he will be elected again next time.
Sarah sold her Az. house? She’s an ornament not a carpetbagger.
There’s more. If Ward and Tark poll better than the incumbents what message does it send to the Rats? 2 can play this game. The ultra left could take out those Wasserman identifies with and make victory easier. Vulnerable Democrats?
He may not have another 5 years on this side of the dirt.
As an Arizonan, it’s hard to explain the POS known as MCCain. He has donors with very deep pockets for sure. He also has the Rat media on his side. He’s also benefitted from the stupid senior citizen vote. There’s a lot of stupid old people who retire here.
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